Burnham has won. More turmoil?

Could you explain why?

😆 🤣 fiscally competent. Yeah, when it's appeasing trade unions then it's a free for all.

Not particularly a shambles in reality though.

Just in the hysterical media

He is an absolute laughing stock and if you can’t see that then it says more about you! He is a laughing stock for the very reason the world leaders can see his letting his own country go down the pan in favour of some made up dream of “fame” he has of being seen to be the one and only on the world stage.
Trump has also made him feel so small on the world stage many times too while the other leaders laughed on.

If you think the only good thing about him is for him to look good on the world stage while he lets our country and the people of our country go to shit then it really shows just how low your bar is for what you’ll accept from a government! Should be country first before world stage, not sell your country out to look like a big tough guy on the world stage. He looks ridiculous!

The absolutely last thing this country needs is even more instability.

None of the Labour government seem to have any decent strategies to promote growth. They all just want a fairer country and seem to think that business and taxes can fund their vision.

The reality though is that running a business right now is tough - it’s a challenging economic climate and Labours policies have made it even harder. Creating even more uncertainty is going to make things even more difficult. You need businesses to remain profitable if you are reliant on their tax revenue and you need stable governance to inspire confidence of investment into the UK.

I’m quite an optimistic person usually, but I’m extremely pessimistic about this.

Yes, and they are meant to be the grown ups. They were happy to dish out shit every week on here when the Tories were in. Different ball game when your party have got to make tough decisions. If it wasn't for the serious matter of the country's interests at heart, I'd be getting my popcorn out for the leadership challenge.

We need stability, not leadership changes. I'm really annoyed at labour and Andy.

Do you think it’s only the “rich” who have difficult and stressful jobs? How ridiculous. I work long hours in a difficult and stressful job but I’m not rich - dh earns significantly more than me but doesn’t work the hours I do. The utter bullshit that the more you earn the harder you work is such a fallacy. Tedious and ignorant 🙄

It takes time to get ready for that. If you want Burnham for next GE you’re better to swap now.

Happy to take the knee for the King of the North. Burnham's steady, fiscally competent and doesn't suffer fools gladly, which is extremely useful in Westminster. If he can steady the ship, Labour just might not cede to King Joffrey Farage and his Reform party in the next General Election.

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And?

This tired defence from Labour supporters trotted out any time anyone dares to state what a mess they have made and how everything is now even worse is so futile.

I am not a Labour supporter nor a Tory nor a Reform voter.

Why are they all so awful? 🥴

No I think Truss and Boris both need to argue over that crown. It’s hysterical you think Starmer even comes close to those buffoons.

Agree Streeting did a decent job as health secretary and would bring a more centrist approach to Labour.

He could do for Labour what Kemi is doing for Conservatives - appeal to a broader base. Think it will be Burnham for PM though as Labour still seem to think they should go more left wing despite evidence to the contrary.

It will be a massive relief to get rid of Reeves but not if she's replaced by Milliband. Another ego, whose sole interests lie in his own pet projects.

It’s the flip flopping and cowering to back benchers.

he could have changed benefits reform and didnt
he shouldn’t have cancelled the Rwanda deal unless he had a solid plan to ‘smash the gangs’.

he shouldn’t have accepted freebies.

That's a bit sausage-ist.
Freedom for Tooting ✊

Th3 issue is that Starmer cheated the electorate because he promised a central government but did not deliver that. He promised welfare reform, investment and increased productivity.Instead his back benchers stopped welfare reform, gave more welfare in the for, of lifting the 2 child cap and he took away the winter fuel not in his manifesto. He also attacked the farmers and I think misled as he increased taxes on working people who get dividends etc. They failed to smash the gangs. All they did was introduce the easier policies to gov3 money away - not their money I might add but the employers / tax payers money.

Now Labour ironically thinks that a lurch further left is the right thing to do. It’s the complete opposite. They need to listen to the floating voters not the rigid Labour voters. They want stability, productivity increase and growth not the spend spend.

This is a disaster as they will lose the floating voters and it will be carnage. Their future policies will crash the economy as borrowing is already up.

Selfish personal gains - you mean like running in a by election so you can become PM?

Who would want to be mates with Starmer! 🤮

Hoping to see KS, RR and BP resign, it is labour’s
last chance, even given circumstances they’ve shown no ability to connect to people.

Quite. But it really is remarkable that almost every other political party in the UK, even the DUP FFS, has managed to elect a woman to lead them and the Labour Party, supposedly the main voice for equal rights, equal opportunity etc, never has. I should add I've never voted Tory in my life and probably never will. I've mostly voted Labour. In recent times it's because they were the least bad option. God knows what I'll do at the next GE.

Try watching the video. Starmer is not a leader, he’s a silly sausage. Time for him to go. He will go down in history as being one of the worst PMs ever!

And are there no 9-5 jobs in the private sector 🤔