Burnham has won. More turmoil?

It’s good as the right will realise their mistake and hopefully by the time of the next election there will be more cohesion and Labour will be gone. Although the layabouts with their cushy 9-5 public sector jobs and pensions or even cushier benefits will continue to vote for them regardless!! The rest of us need to really come together. I believe it should be about encouraging and incentivising work, you should subsidise those who need it, but not keep them ‘better off’ through no hard work and progression which is good for no one (apart from Labour itself of course, and also increasingly the Greens).

Lisa Nandy as PM material ?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shaba Mamood I could definitely get behind as PM but it would never happen because unfortunately, in Labour Party land women are not seen as leaders.

We've always voted for a party to govern us and the members of the party pick their leader. Nothing new in changing PM mid-term. Wilson > Callaghan, Thatcher > Major, before we even get to the post-Brexit merry go round of Tory PMs.

Well......
Let's not buy into excuses, please. I had not heard this Mandelson knowing about any bodies one..... that is a new one .
But, the idea that UK PM should promote an individual who has been close enough to a murder to know where bodies are, instead of handing him to the police? And get it all properly settled and taken to court?
And blackmailing a President of another country!!??
Mandelson was always bad news, interested only in his pocket. And he has brougth zero positives to UK.

Oh come on! What Labour members have said time and again is that their numerous female MPs are somehow not quite good enough to lead them. Not quite as ' statesmanlike' as giants like Jeremy Corbyn or Ed Milliband. It goes deep. It's nothing to do with policy. We don't have a Presidential system. It's the Labour Party and the bias they largely seem to have. The problem Labour have is that they never look at themselves, their infighting, their endless purity spirals, their obsessions with how terrible everyone else is, patting themselves on the back about how ' progressive and non racist they are etc. They are the Guardian of political parties. Spouting on about their moral righteousness while being sued for unfair dismissal and racism and hounding staff out of their jobs.

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about the Labour Party electing yet another white male leader.

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about the Labour Party electing yet another white male leader.

What utter hatred from you? I don't understand your position at all. I see Burnham as the narcissist.

Have a look at historic polling from about 2016 onwards.

Hang on, I thought a reform were going to wipe the floor with labour?

I demand a recount!

😂

I genuinely don’t understand how a single person votes Labour. I can only assume they are supportive of others subsidising them. There is no other rational answer. They simply have to be economically selfish.

The tories took 14 years to become unpopular! Starmer has trumped that by becoming the most unpopular PM ever and he did that within his first 12 months of his premiership so nice try

This was an extremely safe Labour seat, and a possibility to get out a quite unpopular prime minister. It wasn’t about Reform.

Perhaps Burnham got the majority as people voted primarily in a belief he’d get rid of Starmer.
Perhaps Reform achieved around a third of the vote as people wanted to signal and unhappiness with the established parties.
Perhaps that’s why Conservative received just over 2% and the LibDems 0.36%.
I don’t take this as any endorsement of Labour policy at all.

Lisa Nandy as PM material ?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shaba Mamood I could definitely get behind as PM but it would never happen because unfortunately, in Labour Party land women are not seen as leaders.

This comment is delusional an pathological.

I dislike his policies about giving more powers to local Mayors and local authorities. A recipe for corruption if ever there was one. And it also diverts accountability for policies from Westminster. Makes life easy for them. No. They stood, they can decide things, they can be accountable. And a bit rubbish if you vote one way and have a Mayor and Council not of the colour you voted for in a GE. The whole point of a GE is to get the party in who make policies nationally. Not one that say oh, we are handing all the powers to the locals so red rules apply here, yellow over there, light blue there etc.

I’ve heard it all now! Oh it wouldn’t be Starmer’s fault would it… no it must be Trumps!

It's the parties who spend most on campaigning etc. And that is not taxpayers money.

Each party can spend up to £180,050.

The cost of the upcoming Manchester mayoral by-election could be up to £5 million.

You may use the name you want, of course. But it makes you appear unintelligent and contributes to a process resulting in populism and exactly the kind of division and low standards we see in politics today.

Language matters, as does reflexivity.