Page 16 | Burnham has won. More turmoil?

KatiePricesKnickers · 2026-06-19T04:51:37+00:00

Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer. Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances? YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader. YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:49

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:46

You don't think the thugs trying to burn people in their own homes are fir right racists but have reasonable concerns?

OK.

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And the rest of the people who protest peacefully? What about Rhiannon’s Whyte’s mother who has repeatedly tried to reach out to Starmer only to get ignored. The man is a disgrace!

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:48

Twiglets1 · 19/06/2026 12:45

The right wing press will like him even less.

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Maybe, but hopefully there are enough voters with a brain who can see beyond the toxic propaganda.

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:46

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:44

Gaslighting and shutting down half the population and calling them “far right racists” and ignoring their concerns for protesting about immigration is not ‘level headed’, it’s narcissism! Oh and don’t get me started on him appointing Mandleson the paedo lover

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You don't think the thugs trying to burn people in their own homes are fir right racists but have reasonable concerns?

OK.

Twiglets1 · 19/06/2026 12:45

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:37

A lot of the KS hate has been stoked by the right-wing press with vested interests.

But as it looks like he is going, let's focus on the future, which is hopefully Andy Burnham.

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The right wing press will like him even less.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:44

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:35

Well, OK then, I'll humour you since you're so desperate for an answer.

Nothing in your post suggest KS is not level-headed, you merely imply he is not a very inspiring political speaker. And he may not be a firebrand or the most crowd-pleasing orator, but he is definitely a cool head and someone who has calmly steered the country through some very choppy waters.

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Gaslighting and shutting down half the population and calling them “far right racists” and ignoring their concerns for protesting about immigration is not ‘level headed’, it’s narcissism! Oh and don’t get me started on him appointing Mandleson the paedo lover

ClarkeandNewman · 19/06/2026 12:43

None of that is actually true, is it? It's polemic.

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:37

EasternStandard · 19/06/2026 12:33

Ok you don’t, but too many do hence him going. I don’t get the laughing etc below when the leader for your party is pretty much about to be ousted for the issues in your android line. In part, he’ll be ousted for other stuff too.

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A lot of the KS hate has been stoked by the right-wing press with vested interests.

But as it looks like he is going, let's focus on the future, which is hopefully Andy Burnham.

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:35

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:26

Because you can’t think of one. Because Starmer cannot govern this country by using the same robotic lines to answer every question he’s asked! Says it all really 😂

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Well, OK then, I'll humour you since you're so desperate for an answer.

Nothing in your post suggest KS is not level-headed, you merely imply he is not a very inspiring political speaker. And he may not be a firebrand or the most crowd-pleasing orator, but he is definitely a cool head and someone who has calmly steered the country through some very choppy waters.

Pinkandpurplehearts · 19/06/2026 12:33

Mcdhotchoc · 19/06/2026 12:11

At least Reform didn't win.
Labour clearly need to go with a popular vote and someone with more personality. Let's hope it's enough to consolidate the vote away from the far right.

How does he propose to actually grow the productive capacity of the economy (ie true economic growth) or is he just fixated on redistribution of what is currently made?

EasternStandard · 19/06/2026 12:33

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:16

Yes, but I don't see KS as coming across like an android. He's just 'grey' and quiet. For me KB appears like someone who is constantly putting on an act, or worse still, she is actually like that, a person who seems very detached, which I cannot trust.

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Ok you don’t, but too many do hence him going. I don’t get the laughing etc below when the leader for your party is pretty much about to be ousted for the issues in your android line. In part, he’ll be ousted for other stuff too.

ClarkeandNewman · 19/06/2026 12:32

StressedLP1 · 19/06/2026 12:17

And Liz Truss made it to PM. The cream doesn’t always rise to the top.

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Very briefly!

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:26

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:24

I don't really see anything in your rant that merits a response. But you do you.

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Because you can’t think of one. Because Starmer cannot govern this country by using the same robotic lines to answer every question he’s asked! Says it all really 😂

Candlesnuffer · 19/06/2026 12:24

Not happy. I voted for Labour and Starmer. I'm fine with Starmer. I supported his attempt to change welfare which he was over ruled on by his backbenchers. Happy with him dealing woth other countries. Things are improving.
There's a good chance Reform will get in if Andy Burnham becomes PM.

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:24

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:22

Level headed? He can’t answer a single question without giving the exact same responses he’s been giving for the last 2 years. “Let me be clear”, “I have a mandate”, “we have had 14 years of austerity from the tories”, along with everyone who doesn’t agree with him being “far right”. Ffs man change the bloody record, we have heard it for the last 2 years now. He’s like a robot on repeat. Fits in well with that blank gaze of his

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I don't really see anything in your rant that merits a response. But you do you.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:22

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:20

Calm, level-headed, essentially trustworthy. He has made mistakes, sure, but I believe he has the country's best interests at heart. But if he is going, I'm Team Burnham, and of course I have warmed to him as someone who seems confident and who is more at ease in the spotlight than KS.

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Level headed? He can’t answer a single question without giving the exact same responses he’s been giving for the last 2 years. “Let me be clear”, “I have a mandate”, “we have had 14 years of austerity from the tories”, along with everyone who doesn’t agree with him being “far right”. Ffs man change the bloody record, we have heard it for the last 2 years now. He’s like a robot on repeat. Fits in well with that blank gaze of his

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 19/06/2026 12:22

Count Binface polled more than half the Lib Dem vote and a third of the Greens.

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:20

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:16

So what would you describe Starmer as then?

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Calm, level-headed, essentially trustworthy. He has made mistakes, sure, but I believe he has the country's best interests at heart. But if he is going, I'm Team Burnham, and of course I have warmed to him as someone who seems confident and who is more at ease in the spotlight than KS.

ByGraptharsHammer · 19/06/2026 12:18

Tbh it might be that Conservative and Labour are getting the wrong message. Lots of posters are acting as if it’s a straight choice between these two parties. It is not. It looks like it is a choice between Reform and Labour.

Kemi B maybe saying some interesting things but I do not think her party are a runner in terms of the next election. Labour seem to be deciding that if they want to beat Reform, they need to change. Might thus logic also extend to the Conservatives? The Labour Party do not seem concerned about the Tories, do they?

StressedLP1 · 19/06/2026 12:17

ClarkeandNewman · 19/06/2026 12:13

She was the deputy PM. How does that signal stupidity?

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And Liz Truss made it to PM. The cream doesn’t always rise to the top.

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:16

EasternStandard · 19/06/2026 12:13

You brought up the android line and that’s one of Starmer’s issues.

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Yes, but I don't see KS as coming across like an android. He's just 'grey' and quiet. For me KB appears like someone who is constantly putting on an act, or worse still, she is actually like that, a person who seems very detached, which I cannot trust.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 12:16

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:02

She seems so down to earth. 😂

This brings to mind a quote by some wag or other describing a Tory MP thus: "Something about him suggests a mother planet other than Earth."

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So what would you describe Starmer as then?

Happyjoe · 19/06/2026 12:15

KatiePricesKnickers · 19/06/2026 12:09

Because she comes over as confrontational and thick as pig shit.

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Does she? Thick as pig shit?
You 100% it's not snobbery?

ClarkeandNewman · 19/06/2026 12:13

KatiePricesKnickers · 19/06/2026 12:09

Because she comes over as confrontational and thick as pig shit.

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She was the deputy PM. How does that signal stupidity?

Happyjoe · 19/06/2026 12:13

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:07

And it's not really a question of 'liking' anyone in particular, I support what Labour stand for and are trying to do in a difficult political, national and global climate. They may not be perfect but I do not agree with any of the other parties' stance, statements or policies.

Exactly. People put too much importance on the characters. Starmer is well regarded internationally, he's quite level headed. Boris was out of his depth.

But it's the labour party I support (though it is waning!), they are still the better party out of the ones we have now imo. Unfortunately our British (tory press) will never admit any of this.

EasternStandard · 19/06/2026 12:13

incidentally · 19/06/2026 12:12

I don't agree that he isn't relatable, he strikes me as a normal person, probably an introvert. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's childish to expect the prime minister to be like your best buddy - we shouldn't choose leaders on that basis. Boris Johnson, anyone?

But I agree that Andy Burnham appears more charismatic and he is certainly coming out fighting, so if people respond to that, so be it.

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You brought up the android line and that’s one of Starmer’s issues.