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To think life is more of a pain in the arse than it's worth

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CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 21:40

Another day another random assortment of hassle and pain

And this is pretty much the best it's ever been (ok the 00s were better)

Aibu to wonder why this is a secret truth?

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SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 06:35

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:31

I'm having a good time 🤷‍♀️. Sorry you're not.

Hopefully for your your good time doesn't end abruptly so that you can empathise with those who maybe aren't so lucky.

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:31

I'm having a good time 🤷‍♀️. Sorry you're not.

Recklessismymiddlename · 19/06/2026 06:18

namechange6766333545544 · 18/06/2026 22:29

I’m one of those people who struggles with life. I’ve put it down to having chronic serious health problems. I can hardly say I’m thriving.

This is me also. Different conditions. Been particularly bad this year. I mean it’s always bad, but this year it’s off the scale. Even my youngest said, mum you never seem to get a break. I’ve become a shell of myself this year.

Since I was 15. I’m now in my 60’s. Daily. Most days I cope, as it’s not too bad. But this year, simply been unable to really leave the house much and not on my own. Can’t really see an end to it at the moment. Hopefully the new meds start working quickly! I just feel for dh as he has to do so much more.

OutsideLookingOut · 19/06/2026 06:10

I was thinking about starting a thread similar to this. I wonder if most people see life as a gift? I never have.

I remember thinking I wish I had never been in existence from
as early as 6 years old. It doesn’t mean you are suicidal, you’d just rather not have to deal with the bother.

Are there are a significant amount of people who feel the same way but feel they can’t say it?

Icanseeasquirrel · 19/06/2026 06:05

Hard disagree.
Yes it can be hard to be a human. It’s the human condition. Lives of quiet desperation and all that. And it’s why so many humans invented the various gods.
But I am deeply happy in my 60s and still fascinated by everything. No need for a god or promise of heaven. Getting older helps. And being lucky.
A garden
A book
A cat
A cup of tea
Watching videos of birds raising their babies.
There is so much to be joyful for.

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 06:02

Bebeemerald · 18/06/2026 22:23

Has that impacted your life? Did you know him?

It impacts your life if you are sensitive and are an empath

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 05:59

SquirrelGG · 18/06/2026 22:09

That's not my experience at all. I love life and most of the people in my world seem to be happy enough with it, despite the hassles. Life is what you make it.

Says someone who's never had depression....
You're v lucky

Squirrelsnut · 19/06/2026 05:47

I felt happier as I got older (55). Learning about philosophy helped a lot. And Buddhism. I think people search for happiness in the wrong places. It's never going to be external, well not to any extent.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 04:38

ItsNotMeEither · 19/06/2026 03:51

I'm the exact opposite. I find the idea of wanting to talk about the 'futility of life' depressing.

I watch a lot of news, I don't avoid the realities of existence, but there's still far more good in life than bad. We all have crap days, months or years sometimes, but that only serves to help me appreciate all the good things in life.

I'm definitely a glass half full person (or maybe 9/10 full). If a day starts out bad, there's still something good to find in the darkest of times.

I'm generally pretty optimistic and 'make the most of things' in my approach to life. I don't find the idea that life is futile or has no meaning at all problematic. That alone makes the meaning to just make the most of the here and now. I'm content with that.

Jasmine222 · 19/06/2026 04:14

Wow, I don't resonate with this at all. I'm grateful for my life every single day, not saying it's perfect and a there are things we can't control but I'm bloody grateful for everything I have. Genuinely deeply grateful. I think your post is offensive to people suffering from terminal illnesses or trapped in a war zone, who would give anything to just live. I also resent people who take one look at me smiling and laughing and assume my positive outlook has been handed to me freely with no effort. I've actually done a lot of work on myself to overcome a lot of anxiety and depression. You sound depressed OP, there's help available..

ItsNotMeEither · 19/06/2026 03:51

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 22:25

I'm not. Although I do find your inability to engage with the philosophical concept of the futility of existence a bit depressing.

I'm the exact opposite. I find the idea of wanting to talk about the 'futility of life' depressing.

I watch a lot of news, I don't avoid the realities of existence, but there's still far more good in life than bad. We all have crap days, months or years sometimes, but that only serves to help me appreciate all the good things in life.

I'm definitely a glass half full person (or maybe 9/10 full). If a day starts out bad, there's still something good to find in the darkest of times.

Strawberrryfields · 19/06/2026 02:46

I’ve had a lot of bad experiences in life but the ‘what’s the point of it all’ feeling never lasts for me. I do think life is worth living and I appreciate my life. Despite wishing some things were different, life can be lovely - not just the big stuff but the everyday. We’re not here for long so might as well enjoy what we can while we can - cliche but true. I actually feel I’d be doing a disservice to myself and those I’ve lost to spend life lamenting being here. Maybe you need a shake up OP?

Im not religious and wasn’t raised that way at all but looking back my parents were big on gratitude (before it became a buzzword!) and I do think that’s served me well.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:44

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:36

I haven't experienced anything traumatic, I never said I had. I'm talking about a range of people I know. One couple lost three children in a freak accident - is that bad enough for you?

Yes, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. Things that trifle everything else and make previously 'big' things seem small.

What I mean is things like, I almost bled to death on my bathroom floor after unexpectedly giving birth. That was genuinely terrifying and I'd have considered it a major trauma. I guess it is and I still have PTSD effects from it today, however, it is a mere trifle compared to what I've experienced later in life. It's all relative.

I would also never expect someone who has lost a child to get up and dust themselves off, as some here seem to expect. You get on with it but it takes a long time to really move on (though you never really fully do). You just learn a new way of being.

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:36

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:22

Eventually you might experience something that makes what you now consider trauma and tragedy low key (keeping in mind I don't know what you're referencing). I hope you don't but you never know. A lot of things people think are extreme are piffling, relatively speaking.

I haven't experienced anything traumatic, I never said I had. I'm talking about a range of people I know. One couple lost three children in a freak accident - is that bad enough for you?

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:22

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:18

I would consider some of the things they've gone through severe trauma and tragedy. I'm getting on in years, I know life can change in a split second yet some people deal with what life throws at them.

Eventually you might experience something that makes what you now consider trauma and tragedy low key (keeping in mind I don't know what you're referencing). I hope you don't but you never know. A lot of things people think are extreme are piffling, relatively speaking.

Strawberrryfields · 19/06/2026 02:19

Bebeemerald · 18/06/2026 22:23

Has that impacted your life? Did you know him?

Does something genuinely have to affect you personally for you to give a shit? I understand the idea of focusing on things you can control but there’s such a thing as basic human empathy.

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:18

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:08

Bad luck but not severe trauma and tragedy maybe? Enjoy it because you never know the split second everything gets turned completely upside down and the former bad luck and hassles seem minute.

I would consider some of the things they've gone through severe trauma and tragedy. I'm getting on in years, I know life can change in a split second yet some people deal with what life throws at them.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:08

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:04

I and the people in my life are just ordinary folk. Some of them have had more than their share of bad luck, they just dust themselves down and get on with life instead of moaning "why me".

Bad luck but not severe trauma and tragedy maybe? Enjoy it because you never know the split second everything gets turned completely upside down and the former bad luck and hassles seem minute.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:07

ViciousCurrentBun · 19/06/2026 00:45

I think people just have a natural level of resilience and when tested some can come through situations better than others. I have survived having a child unexpectedly die, no illness no warning and the Police turning up to inform me of her death. It’s not like I had a solid foundation as I had a very tough childhood. I had a period of depression but refuse to feel sorry for myself.

I understand. I had similar (but no police and I found them unexpectedly dead). In the years after, found out that three other children carry the same gene (can help it now we know but that's been a huge journey too), one of my children has three auto-immune conditions, one has developed mental health issues as a result of all this, found out the gene came from me (I'm affected, but barely). This has all cost me my career and I'm a bit lonely at the moment.

However, I keep going and all this has also taught me to make the most of life. We have so many good things going on in life too.

I've asked myself if I'd have chosen to be childfree if I'd know what my children would face, but they enjoy their lives, so it seems to be worth it for them in spite of it all. I also hope to get very old.

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:04

wavingfuriously · 19/06/2026 00:23

you and your people are lucky

I and the people in my life are just ordinary folk. Some of them have had more than their share of bad luck, they just dust themselves down and get on with life instead of moaning "why me".

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:01

shuggles · 18/06/2026 23:32

@SquirrelGG Life is what you make it.

Well no, because you can be hit with unexpected events that make life a lot more difficult, or you could be abused by other people.

I do realise that life can be awful for some people and things we have no control over happen - and I have also seen people who have experienced those things and still manage to be happy. While we have little control over what happens to us we do have control of how we react to it. Attitude is everything.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 02:00

SwitchUpTime · 18/06/2026 22:03

I think if it wasn’t a secret truth, we’d stop having babies, which keeps human life in existence and the world spinning!

I had mine when I was young, optimistic and hadn't experienced how truly harsh life can be.

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 01:56

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 18/06/2026 22:44

It was the reason I didn't have children and I can't be the only one.

A lot of people wonder what the point is.

I'm nearly 60 and I have a great life compared to a lot of people but I don't want to live beyond 75.

Surely "the point" is that you get given the gift of life and it's up to you to make the most of it and fill it with whatever you want to. All this navel gazing about "what is the point" is self indulgent nonsense.

I would be devastated if I was told I wouldn't make it past 75.

StarCourt · 19/06/2026 01:56

SquirrelGG · 18/06/2026 22:09

That's not my experience at all. I love life and most of the people in my world seem to be happy enough with it, despite the hassles. Life is what you make it.

Unfortunately lots of people are unable to make the life they want.

XigDoop · 19/06/2026 01:48

Yes, it's a feeling I'm constantly trying to keep at bay.