Not all men, but always men

Most children are harmed by a biologically unrelated male living in their home.By a huge margin.

Why are you making things up? Why are you grasping at straws?
Why are you insinuating the police don’t charge women with crimes?

You can’t either.

It’s not all men when your agenda suits apparently.

You’re protecting certain sectors of the male population when it doesn’t suit your narrative.

It still isn’t all men but always a man. You are just reiterating the same problem but making it about race. How many different ways do you need it explaining. If you make it about race you are making it a race issues rather than a man issue - it is still a man issue.

You simply can't help yourself can you? It's like every opportunity. Ding ding, Pavlov's dog.

Sorry haven't read whole thread but informed by Google that 4% of the prison population are women. The figures speak for themselves.

I wouldn’t go out alone in some places in the UK, but the colour of the man’s skin isn’t the reason why.

I was SA’d by an Asian man in my teens, that doesn’t mean I now think all Asian men will SA someone.

Stop using excuses to be a bigot, just admit you are racist and own it.

Baby P, there were two men who participated in the abuse and along with Peter's mother were convicted of causing or allowing the death of a child. One of the males was convicted at a later trial of raping a two year old
Victoria Climbe murdered by her great aunt and the aunt's boyfriend
Arthur Labinjo-Hughes, his step mother was convicted of murder and his father was convicted of manslaughter
Star Hobson was killed by her mother's girlfriend who got 25 years and the mother herself got 12 years for causing or allowing the death of a child. So in all but one of these horrific and devastating cases men were equally culpable. Not that this in any way mitigates or excuses the vile actions of the women but there were men who not only did nothing to protect these poor children, they activelyparticipated in the crimes

There’s not ‘a fair few’ - the numbers are vastly different. I’m curious though @Jellycatspyjamas why you felt that was the best response to what is a very fair post about being exhausted by the scale of violence committed against women and children by men. Do you the NAMALTS give you a pat on the head? Tell you you’re not like other girls? Defending men by trying to make false equivalence will not save you.

I completely agree with this statement, as I first stated in my earlier post. But any discussion of this nature will always end up in one big argument.
I think we have sleep walked into where we are now. I know it has always happened but not on the scale it has reached now. I believe there are many factors involved, but nothing and no-one is ultimately to blame except for the person carrying out the act.

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.Margaret Atwood

And for high security prisons, the difference is even more stark: the vast majority of female prisoners have been convicted of non violent crimes such as fraud or theft.

Men don’t feel safe to express their feelings because of other men.

97%
97% of violent crime is committed by men.

I've said this today on here I'll say it again. No one is saying women don't murder.

But I'm pretty sure I've never heard of a case of a baby fucking orally raped to death by a woman.

The problem is though is that it seems men ( on the whole, again, not all men), do not appear to have the same visceral anger about this issue ( male violence) as women do. Until we hear other men speaking out about this in the same terms and with the same frequency as women, nothing will change. Writing to an MP can be done, of course, but women need to be able to share how this is making them feel, and this is often done by talking to each other, even via social media sites like this. There are drawbacks for sure, but keeping low key and polite isn’t going to cut it.

Yes , I read about it today. Three women have come forward.

If they were a breed of dog they’d be banned.

Not all men, yes, and certainly not any of the men I know and love - but those coming back with ‘but women…’ are being deliberately disingenuous.

93% of murders world wide are committed by men and of the women, the majority of those are committed in concert with men and/or instigated by the male partner in crime. 99% of sexual crimes are committed by men. 65-70% of financial crime is also perpetrated by men.

To deny there is an issue with men means that you cannot have an honest, constructive conversation or explore and address the reasons why. We can’t change society, change the way we educate men, the way we raise our sons, without understanding this.

We have to stop trying to stymie the conversation with the ‘oh but not all men’ counter - despite it being blindingly bloody true - because it is only stated for fear of offending. And we need to do this, not least, because it is other men who are more likely to be their victims (in terms of murder, financial fraud, muggings, knife crime, gang related incidents etc). Sexual crime and DV obviously impacts women disproportionately. If we want to protect children, women AND other men [the ones who are ‘not like that’] - ie everyone in society - we need to be able to have this discussion.

I think men need to express their feelings a lot less!

I think men should be allowed express their feelings more. As I am getting older (mid 40s!), I am noticing just how alarmed people get if men are anyway stressed or angry. Everyone immediately reacts strongly. We wonder then why men aren't good at expressing their feelings. It would be great if men felt safe enough to express how they feel. It's ironic because there is a big push now by many men ensuring that women feel safe enough to express theirs. It would be good if men feel safe to express theirs too

Jesus, what a thread.
Yes more crimes of whatever nature are committed by men, no escaping it, it's true.
But do you really think creating a thread like this is really going to help matters. Instead of venting on here and whipping up a storm, why didn't you take that anger and write to your MP or something. The only way to achieve anything, is by working together, not causing further divides.
And just think of this, does anyone on here really know who's on here, how do you know that someone might be reading this thread, get wound up, then do something stupid, might sound extreme, but you just never know.

Women do murder, but for other reasons. Only men murder for sexual gratification. That poor wee boy.

Women may have murdered children out of desperation: no support, no money, domestic violence against her and or the children, at her wit's end and no help in sight. But this man killed this baby to

satisfy himself sexually

It's hard to even think that thought

but some posters say "women do it too". No, they don't do that. No they bloody don't.

Yep. The news broke of an elderly lady found dead here in Ireland. A man 30’s arrested and charged. He didn’t only take her precious life, her tortured her in the most brutal way for a few euros.
I know that there are good men too but the constant news cycle of violence is disturbing. The drug epidemic is not helping the problem, something is going terribly wrong in society.