Not all men, but always men

And yet, I've seen men thought to be more important and taken more seriously than women, throughout my life. I'm 64.
I'm still trying to figure out why.

Vast vast majority are men. The vast majority.

I disagree it's not always men!

Women do as well, recent cases Emma Tustin who tortured and killed little Arthur, the 2 gay Women who killed little Star Hobson, one black woman on tv today who just got done for manslaughter going back to 1978, so it's a majority of men but women do too and in many cases the punishment is not severe enough for the suffering inflicted on those poor innocent children.

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/press/releases/2025/November/137-women-and-girls-killed-every-day-by-intimate-partners-or-family-members-in-2024.html

I rest your case

There’s more than one… there’s at least one more historical and the one prosecuted this year.

I am SICK of it. I can't even watch TV shows I used to like - crime, gangster dramas and the like - because I am so sick of every other scene being some poor woman being brutalised.

Someone switch the fucking men OFF AND ON AGAIN!

@Kingfisherfly asked ‘where are all the cases where a woman was the only perpetrator?’

You’ve named one- is that ‘all the cases’? (At any rate, there is considerable doubt over LL’s conviction)

@Musney your stats, like you point, are rubbish. At least do some research before trying to make women out to be dangers.

If you are trying to make a half arsed statement about abortion you are even more pathetic but reminds me to make a point about how many pregnancies come about due to rape, and as a control tactic inflicted by men. Domestic partners tend to be the biggest terrorists in a woman’s life and that is every bit as abusive as stranger violence.

Totally agree @DimwittedSkater The men in my life have been quite lucky so far, although my brother had a knife pulled on him by another man many years ago - at the time both my brother and the other man were teenagers.

The same brother was a youth worker some years later and so was his girlfriend (who later became his wife). Both are now in other occupations since all the local youth clubs closed down (under the Tory government if I remember correctly). It was very short-sighted of the govt to defund those resources IMO. For lots of young people (especially boys) they were places where they could be occupied in safe and healthy ways, and where they could see some good role models which some didn’t have at home.

I worry for my son as much as for my daughter re male violence, as my daughter is gay and spends most of her time with women- I accept that she is at still at risk from male strangers but I think women are more at risk from men they know than male strangers, whereas men are more at risk from male strangers.

It should also be said that mothers who murder their children are often either a. Seriously mentally ill or b. Have high care needs children they can’t cope with, don’t reach out for support and then kill them & sometimes themselves as well.

While men who kill their children tend to be a. Family annihilators or b. Abusive to the whole family.

Yes, Baby P came to mind here. His mother was there the whole time and allowed a sustained and extended campaign of violence against that poor, adorable sweetheart.

Oh yes, so true. THREE of the men in my life have been beaten up by groups of men on a night out, when they happened to be alone. Outside a nightclub, in the men's, and at a bowling alley. The attacks were completely unprovoked. I don't know what the answer is. Better funding for clubs and activities for young men would help, I'm sure, but there never seems to be money for things like that.

Rubbish. Unicef states that 95,000 children are killed globally per annum. Of those under 5 years old 61% (according the FBI research) are at the hands of their parents - the split is 43% by mothers, 57 by fathers (US justice Dept research). Of all children as a class (0-16y) they are more likely to be killed by a parent or step parent, and there is increased risk where the infant is under 1 year, the family is from a low economic demographic and there are other socio-economic indicators (NSPCC). In the UK, 37% of perpetrators have mental health issues - bipolar, schzophrenia and other MH conditions inducing psychosis. This was more prevalent in the mothers (Uni of Manchester, and a Swedish study also).

So, to repeat and further clarify. Your claim above is complete and utter b*llocks.

most likely true points,

This doesn't take account of the sheer scale of male violence. So much safer with women.

but women on women still happens in all women institution's etc so even then they are not safe from each other

The white men just called the girls “slags” who were asking for it. Not sure they’re getting off the hook here.

I don’t think it helps that thousands of working class white girls were ignored and labelled “promiscuous” when reporting that they had been raped by Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs. And that authorities turned a blind eye so they didn’t appear racist. Police wouldn’t always record ethnicity or demographics to avoid tensions.
so whilst a lot of white men are disgusting and perverted you can’t be ignorant enough to say “ men with black and brown” faces barely made a ripple because it isn’t true

if the amount of violent crime committed by men was equal to the amount committed by women, the entire UK would only need about 10 police officers.

Regardless of the rest of your post this statement is absolute BS with no foundation.

Lucy Letby springs to mind...

Whilst I agree, I do think that we have to talk about agency.

Because effectively you are excusing women for a variety of reasons including mental illness, being too weak, addicted, helpless, choosing abusive bf over child.

I feel that pretty much anyone doing this awful sh*t is mentally ill. The awful man and his male partner have to be either mentally ill or addicted to do what they're doing with that poor kid.

I think that women who condone or permit or facilitate abuse should be just as culpable.

And so I dont think many women should get the free pass that some would like to give them. Same way I don't think that men should be given a free pass for "going along with" some disgusting behaviour.

It paints that picture of women being helpless when we've spent decades trying to insist that women are as good as men if not better.

For my daughters futures and safety I hope they are lesbians or asexual. And even that won't protect them from male violence.

I'm still recovering for the post just upthread who calls it a society problem and lists 'single mums' as the first of the possible root causes. These 'single mums' presumably budded their offspring off like sea anemones and cactus can do.

And here we have it, folks.

Vile misogyny proudly displayed for all to see.

They walk among us.