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No point in coming on holiday with children under 5

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choccakeE · 18/06/2026 10:11

I’m in Mallorca, paid £4.5k for my DH, me, 3 year old and 9 month old 4* hotel.

3 year old recently turned 3 and has this thing now about shouting/whinging about EVERYTHING. She rarely talks normally.

This morning we had breakfast, straight to the pool, screaming because I wasn’t being fast enough getting her swimsuit on, screaming because I was putting suncream on her then we get in the pool and she’s moaning and whinging that I’m not holding her properly or for whatever other reason like when she jumped in but didn’t warn me and her foot missed my face by a couple of cm.

9 month old is fine, happy playing with toys on sunbed, sleeping a lot etc.

but I don’t think I can do this again for another few years where she might actually stop moaning constantly (I know some is to be expected).

I honestly would rather just be at home right now, spent all of this money and I’m sick with envy at all these women laying by the pool with their kindles (light hearted, used to be me before I thought 2 kids would be a fab idea 🥴).

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summerheatwaves · 21/06/2026 16:48

I am not on holiday but relate so much to your post. I have been in tears with my just-turned three year old today. I feel like the sweet baby and lovely younger toddler she was have been replaced by this horror who barks orders at me, is horrible to her brother, will not accept no for an answer and just either whines or screeches.

I pray it is an age thing and not a parenting thing. I keep trying to tell myself I can’t parent her out of being three but my goodness it is challenging!

Donsyb · 21/06/2026 16:39

My parents couldn’t afford foreign holidays when we were little, so it was usually a holiday park with loads of other kids or a chalet/ caravan by the beach in England.

I’m none the worse for it and based on the photos, look like we were enjoying ourselves. To be honest, I can barely remember it.

Save yourself the cost and hassle next year!

choccakeE · 20/06/2026 15:10

mambojambodothetango · 20/06/2026 13:17

Absolutely, each to their own. A cheese toastie for tea when you've had a big lunch in a restaurant is fine by me. And for me, five minutes hanging out clothes each morning is preferable to lugging massive suitcases through an airport and having a fortnight of dirty laundry to do when you get home.

I agree with you, I’d rather 10 mins wipe downs, toilets bleached and dishwasher on before bed and cleaning as I go with a villa than this.

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TheRealWhacker · 20/06/2026 09:50

Villa vs hotel seems such a polarising debate. Personally I don’t really want to be thinking about washing on holiday, we just take enough clothes so we don’t have to worry about that. Breakfast tends to be served 7-10, lunch 12-2.30 and dinner 5.30-9.30 with plenty of snacks available in between so I don’t find the mealtimes rigid at all. Each to their own but I definitely wouldn’t fancy having a cheese toastie for my dinner on holiday.

We’re probably lucky we can afford a suite so don’t really feel cramped either.

Absolutely, each to their own. A cheese toastie for tea when you've had a big lunch in a restaurant is fine by me. And for me, five minutes hanging out clothes each morning is preferable to lugging massive suitcases through an airport and having a fortnight of dirty laundry to do when you get home.

Dinggirl · 20/06/2026 11:16

I never took my kids abroad until they were about 8 years old! I just couldn't face the hassle, and felt they would be too young to appreciate it anyway. We had holidays in the UK, at my parents' holiday chalet near Great Yarmouth instead! The kids thought the Golden Mile was heaven on earth, with the piers, pleasure beaches, and other wall-to-wall entertainment 😄or we went to Cornwall or center parcs. When we finally got on a plane they were thrilled, and appreciated a foreign holiday so much more!

TheRealWhacker · 20/06/2026 09:50

mambojambodothetango · 20/06/2026 09:44

My DC never whinged - not sure why otherwise I'd give you advice! We have always had a villa or cottage rather than hotels, so you can go at your own pace, spread out, adults still have them whole place to use in the evening. You can still eat out e.g. beach in morning, lunch out, home for DC to nap and parents to have a break, then a very low key evening of cheeses on toast or a salad or a bbq (DH does this so I'm still getting a break). You can chuck your swimmers and dirty clothes from the day in the machine, hang them out to dry in the sun... there's just no way I'd give that up for all squashing into a hotel room, surrounded by other people, rigid breakfast times, clothes hanging up all around the tiny bathroom...

Villa vs hotel seems such a polarising debate. Personally I don’t really want to be thinking about washing on holiday, we just take enough clothes so we don’t have to worry about that. Breakfast tends to be served 7-10, lunch 12-2.30 and dinner 5.30-9.30 with plenty of snacks available in between so I don’t find the mealtimes rigid at all. Each to their own but I definitely wouldn’t fancy having a cheese toastie for my dinner on holiday.

We’re probably lucky we can afford a suite so don’t really feel cramped either.

jeaux90 · 20/06/2026 09:47

Lone parent for many years here. I solved this by using really good kids clubs. Scott Dunn is amazing if you have a decent budget. My DD absolutely loved it. I got some respite.

mambojambodothetango · 20/06/2026 09:44

My DC never whinged - not sure why otherwise I'd give you advice! We have always had a villa or cottage rather than hotels, so you can go at your own pace, spread out, adults still have them whole place to use in the evening. You can still eat out e.g. beach in morning, lunch out, home for DC to nap and parents to have a break, then a very low key evening of cheeses on toast or a salad or a bbq (DH does this so I'm still getting a break). You can chuck your swimmers and dirty clothes from the day in the machine, hang them out to dry in the sun... there's just no way I'd give that up for all squashing into a hotel room, surrounded by other people, rigid breakfast times, clothes hanging up all around the tiny bathroom...

LittleBearPad · 20/06/2026 09:39

cheekynamechang3 · 18/06/2026 12:31

how do you stop your children from whinging?

You tell them to stop, that it will make no difference to what’s going to happen. They soon learn.

OuEstLaPlage · 20/06/2026 09:31

holidays are hard work with kids are that little. Sorry you’re having a rubbish time

pouletvous · 20/06/2026 09:12

Dont forget she’s probably tired. Will she sleep in a pram? You can enjoy a few drinks whilst both kids sleep

pouletvous · 20/06/2026 09:09

kids club!!!

three is a crap age. She will be better next year and even better once you get past year R !

Honeyhonay · 20/06/2026 07:28

You can still do day trips/ beach days/ explore the local area though. The money on the hotel has already been spent, you aren’t actually tied to be because they will serve lunch.

Many people still go out and do a few local lunches or dinners after a day out even when they’ve paid for half board or all inclusive.

DoodIeBug · 19/06/2026 23:39

BeSunnyLemonSheep · 19/06/2026 20:29

Or you could just parent your children and teach them not to whine 🧐

Hell not my kids - other people's kids who are whining 🤣

choccakeE · 19/06/2026 23:11

Thank you all!

DH was fine by the evening of day 2 thank god, the migraine went as fast as it appeared. I did feel sorry for him, he felt awful leaving me with both kids but was laying on the bathroom floor vomiting into the toilet in the dark because the light was hurting his eyes at one point!

We are day 3 now and things are much better, we got a free upgrade to a family suite, we asked at reception if they had any bigger rooms as we didn’t realise wuiye how small the “apartments” were and they offered us it for free so now DD3 has her own room, us and DS have own room, spacious balcony, a small kitchen area so just having more space has chilled us out a little. DD3 very set in her ways, loves her room and bed at home, loves sleeping alone after a story and cuddles etc so being able to do this has improved her behaviour as feel like she slept better last night and tonight she was falling asleep at dinner at 17:30 so she was in bed by 18:30 and hopefully a good 12 hours will do her good.

When she was 4 months, we went to Portugal for a week in a villa, loved it, she was a super easy, sleepy baby so we had a great time.

We did Spain the following year, again, 10 months old, super easy and chilled, crawling but not walking yet, loved it.

Skipped last year as was heavily pregnant with DS in the summer.

This year?! I’ve been put off for life. It’s like overnight, she has become a stroppy teenager and we absolutely do correct her, tell her we cannot hear her or understand her when she shouts/whinges/screams, please/thank you and general manners have been from the get go of her talking and I could have full conversations with her before she turned 2. It’s like she’s forgotten all of this since she turned 3 and it’s like treading on eggshells around her because most of the time, she’s a lovely little girl, brilliant sense of humour, loves her books, shares beautifully with other children but she can change in an instant and she’s so
unpredictable, I won’t lie and say I’m not struggling with this because I absolutely am. I’m embarassed when she screams or shouts in public.

Both DH and I were lucky as kids that both of our families mixed city breaks with UK breaks with foreign travel but neither of us ever did AI with our families. We always had villas or apartments and would alternate days of exploring and then pool/more chilled and think this is the mistake we’ve made. Personally, we are not big drinkers so don’t use the alcohol of AI, it’s nice to be able to get breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks without thinking about the cost but we are tied to the hotel because of this, there is nothing cultural about it and I think we are more cut out for a mix of exploring and pool/beach days and want our children to experience different cultures and their people, their county, their food etc. so AI has been a mistake.

We live and we learn!

We love Devon so thinking of doing an Air B&B lodge near beach but also within walking and driving distance of activities next year then the following we are looking at booking Croatia, DD will be 5, DS will be almost 3 so can explore a bit and still do pool and beach days.

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 19/06/2026 22:32

My son isn't this challenging (at home or on holiday), but we still do holidays a bit differently.

We take time off before and after the holiday abroad, and have a few days off when he's in nursery after to actually decompress!

And we split our holiday time, taking solo weekends.

My husband has taken our toddler away for the night so I've had today off work and they won't be back until tomorrow evening.

Bookbears · 19/06/2026 22:19

I’m a bit late to this thread, but get yourself to Haven and be done with it. I haven’t taken my 2 overseas yet as I can foresee this happening. UK holidays are so much easier when you have young kids and worse case scenario I’d just drive them home 😅

USaYwHatNow · 19/06/2026 22:16

We're very lucky and have quite close family that we are happy to spend a week + with, without wanting to never speak to each other again 🤣 so we've worked out pretty early that when going abroad we take grandparents, siblings, cousins etc. Appreciate not everyone is as fortunate though.

LettuceAndCarrots · 19/06/2026 20:44

I love holidaying with my under 5! Before school started I took them to Butlins, Morroco, Majorca, camping in the UK and Corsica to take advantage of being able to travel in term time!

Our holidays aren't super relaxing for me and are planned around things DC will like. I also don't spend as much - our trip to Majorca was less than half your price. I find that the more I spend on a holiday the less I often enjoy it (ditto nights out) as I feel increased pressure and expectations for it to be amazing and exactly as I imagined, which it rarely is. Better to have low expectations!

It's rubbish that your DH is ill 🙁 I hope he gets well soon.

BeSunnyLemonSheep · 19/06/2026 20:29

DoodIeBug · 19/06/2026 19:43

I use Loop earplugs to zone out the whining

Or you could just parent your children and teach them not to whine 🧐

DoodIeBug · 19/06/2026 19:43

I use Loop earplugs to zone out the whining

FlipFlopZebra · 19/06/2026 19:39

We’ve just got back from Croatia with a 2.5 year old. The first maybe 2 days were hard work but by the end we didn’t want to leave as we found our routine. I think the change in environment was too much for her initially. We also found having something planned for every day helped so we did aquarium, Dino park etc. when we tried a more lazy day it did not go well!

Linencat · 19/06/2026 19:35

PrincessOfPreschool · 18/06/2026 10:23

Sorry about the moaning. I did have a DD who screamed (meltdowns) but I didn't allow whingeing (kids are not usually out of control when they are moaning) and just said they need to ask me in a nice voice. My boys were fine, no moaning or screaming. DD used to be very persistent in asking for things but at least she asked in a normal voice, I can't stand whining!

When DH is feeling better you can still have a nice time. Now must be v hard with 2 young ones though. Eyes in the back of your head! DD may be unsettled by him being ill.

Just enjoy not having to cook or other household tasks, and try to see the nice bits (easier said than done, but I'm sure there are some). I love coming back to clean room which I didn't clean!

Absolutely this
No I dont understand , speak nicely or we go back to the hotel , please and thank you also
Rinse and repeat

Shelleyblueeyes · 19/06/2026 18:38

Yes I agree holidays with very young kids arent a walk in the park!
Stick to UK breaks - sadly there's a reason why center parcs is so bloody dear - it works so well when the children are young. Or a proper bucket and spade holiday - so much easier.

Hope your hubby feels better soon btw.

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Judecb · 19/06/2026 18:27

This stage WILL pass! Can you put your daughter into a kids club? Failing this take time to share care with your partner so you both get a bit of 'down time'.