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Poor soul having to manage his own childcare...

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Diamondcushions · 17/06/2026 19:02

I know IAB and I'm sure his current situation is difficult and painful, but in the last week I've been in two meetings with a very senjor man who manages a large workforce, and who is going through a separation. They've gone for 50/50 and there are soooo many things he can't possibly do, that he used to do, because childcare.

It's like watching a cartoon lightbulb moment.

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Cosimarocks · 17/06/2026 23:38

TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys · 17/06/2026 20:21

Who are you responding to? No-one's mentioned earnings before you brought it up. It's to do with parenting.

If he is 'going for' 50-50, and his life is changing drastically, then that suggests he wasn't doing 50-50 beforehand.

Hope that makes sense.

You’re just making assumptions based upon an inability to actually understand how single parenting works. A single parent does 100% of parenting on the days they have the children. Anyone taking that on will have to adapt massively. There seem to be an awful lot of rather nasty mean spirited and frankly thick people commenting on this thread who lack the capacity to do simple maths.

Hope that makes sense.

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:37

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I didn't report it FYI, someone else must have. Good for them. May more of your wacky posts get deleted.

arethereanyleftatall · 17/06/2026 23:35

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 21:52

Interestingly, my parents have a terrible marriage but have been great parents. I am very grateful for the sense of self worth they instilled. And I agree with you in that one's environment and socio-economic background influences our choices in partners to a point...but beyond that women need take accountability for their own choices. To blame their backgrounds or upbringing is probably quite offensive to many of these women. The signs were always there.

I imagine the ‘leap’ @Bluehouse14, was from when you said that…

CaesarAugusta · 17/06/2026 23:34

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Well yes, it clearly does.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 17/06/2026 23:33

@Bluehouse14 Do you think Oxbridge educated women are less likely to marry abusive men then?

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:33

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Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:29

Sorry I can't engage any further with you as I am beginning to question your ability to read. I see you've already managed to get yourself deleted? At no point, did I say women are responsible for their crap men. I'm not sure how you made that leap...

People do seem very hung up on my oxbridge degree and my happy marriage. I wonder why.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/06/2026 23:27

HelenaWaiting · 17/06/2026 19:57

Men ask for 50/50 to get out of paying child support. They never actually take 50% of the responsibility.

I’ve known it happen that they do.

But I agree that a lot of the time they have no intention of doing it, but want it on paper to avoid maintenance. So in practice they outsource to their Mum, their new girlfriend, sometimes paid childcare (last resort) or they flake out frequently leaving the children’s Mum actually doing more of the work.

And then, 50:50 in CMS or Court terms just means 50% of nights. They’re very often not doing 50% of the mental load, the planning, the school runs, even the actual physical care. They’re often not paying half of the real expenses.

Obviously some men do step up and do their fair share - I know at least a couple who do, including in a separated but cohabiting couple DD17 babysits for - but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

PyongyangKipperbang · 17/06/2026 23:24

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:11

This initial light hearted post of mine you have quoted was absolutely not written in the context of domestic abuse. I am not engaging in any discussions about abusive men because this is not what this original thread was about. It was about the many grating comments of women complaining about crap feckless men and taking zero accountability for their own choices. Not about abusive men.

Saying that women must have only encountered crap men, and then doubling down on that with suggesting that "its easy" to spot men who turn into utter tools after having a baby, is not in any way "lighthearted".

You say you wont engage in discussion about abuse further highlights your ignorance. A man who neglects his child after it is born IS abusive to that child. A man who neglects his wife to the point where she is sleep deprived and her MH is suffering IS abusive to his wife. A man who demands that his wife, who is trying to deal with the above, goes back to work whilst also doing everything for their child and the home IS ABUSIVE.

Your Oxbridge education didnt teach you much about real life did it?

arethereanyleftatall · 17/06/2026 23:22

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:20

Oh, the convenient Oxbridge education is as real as the justification for all the victim blaming, which is as real as the Tooth Fairy.

Totally agree. Not a chance.

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:20

arethereanyleftatall · 17/06/2026 23:14

Looks like an (alleged) oxbridge education and an (alleged) good husband doesn’t stop someone from being nasty. No one is struggling to comprehend your posts, you have been very clear that you think if a woman finds herself at the hands of an abusive man, it’s her own fault.

Oh, the convenient Oxbridge education is as real as the justification for all the victim blaming, which is as real as the Tooth Fairy.

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:18

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:13

Your hypocrisy is absolutely wild.

I don't think I'll be taking morality lessons from a person who made such a spiteful post towards women whose husbands treated them like dirt and continues to blame them for it.

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:17

Unusualsuspects · 17/06/2026 23:05

Why are you getting nasty? Surely having your ideas and perceptions challenged is part of developing and forming our understanding of the world.

May I remind you of the post I responded to...the hypocrisy of @ThatCyanCat is genuinely comical

ThatCyanCat · Today 22:42

Face saving attempts work better without blobby word salad. It looks too try hard. You'll know for next time.

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:17

Unusualsuspects · 17/06/2026 23:05

Why are you getting nasty? Surely having your ideas and perceptions challenged is part of developing and forming our understanding of the world.

May I remind you of the post I responded to...the hypocrisy of @ThatCyanCat is genuinely comical

ThatCyanCat · Today 22:42

Face saving attempts work better without blobby word salad. It looks too try hard. You'll know for next time.

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:16

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:11

This initial light hearted post of mine you have quoted was absolutely not written in the context of domestic abuse. I am not engaging in any discussions about abusive men because this is not what this original thread was about. It was about the many grating comments of women complaining about crap feckless men and taking zero accountability for their own choices. Not about abusive men.

But women aren't accountable for crap and feckless men and those men's choices to be crap and feckless. That's the point you can't grasp.

What's the point of being an Oxbridge graduate clairvoyant if you still can't understand such basic stuff?

arethereanyleftatall · 17/06/2026 23:14

Looks like an (alleged) oxbridge education and an (alleged) good husband doesn’t stop someone from being nasty. No one is struggling to comprehend your posts, you have been very clear that you think if a woman finds herself at the hands of an abusive man, it’s her own fault.

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:13

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:06

It's (extremely clumsy) deflection.

Your hypocrisy is absolutely wild.

Bluehouse14 · 17/06/2026 23:11

DrRylandGrace · 17/06/2026 22:54

It’s well-documented that many men change and become abusive after having children. Your post is victim blaming.

This initial light hearted post of mine you have quoted was absolutely not written in the context of domestic abuse. I am not engaging in any discussions about abusive men because this is not what this original thread was about. It was about the many grating comments of women complaining about crap feckless men and taking zero accountability for their own choices. Not about abusive men.

SunIsGreat · 17/06/2026 23:08

I get it OP. If I got divorced and went 50/50, it would open up a lot of time for me. I can't even imagine. For my DH, it would add a lot to his plate and there is some satisfaction on knowing he would see just how much he has been able to do what he does because of my facilitation.

I don't want to only see my kids half the time, but I do know that it would be a very different experience for me and my DH if it happened that way.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 17/06/2026 23:07

Absolutely as women we should stop becoming the "default parent." Don't be ringing me up first if my child is sick at school when my husband is Priority 1 on the list! There's a reason for that!
Only then we will begin to be seen as equals in the workplace.

TY78910 · 17/06/2026 23:07

It’s an interesting take because I have a DH who is in a very senior position. He does not switch off from work, it comes with the territory. The trade off of course is that I take on a lot of the household and childcare responsibilities, but he brings the paycheck that comes with the seniority. If heaven forbid we were to separate, I can see how he wouldn’t be able to handle 50/50 all at once - it would have to be a lifestyle change for him. And undoubtedly it’ll be a lifestyle change for both the man you’re talking about and his ex wife.

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:06

Unusualsuspects · 17/06/2026 23:05

Why are you getting nasty? Surely having your ideas and perceptions challenged is part of developing and forming our understanding of the world.

It's (extremely clumsy) deflection.

Unusualsuspects · 17/06/2026 23:05

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Why are you getting nasty? Surely having your ideas and perceptions challenged is part of developing and forming our understanding of the world.

PyongyangKipperbang · 17/06/2026 23:04

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And there it is! The finale on your ill informed rage baiting self satisfied bullshit!

Sleep well love, safe in the knowledge that you "chose well" and if/when your good choice turns out to be not so good, we will be here to support you. And no one will say "I told you so", because we are not like you!

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 23:01

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