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AIBU to question adoption checks after this safeguarding failure?

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User05677229 · 17/06/2026 15:24

I can’t stop thinking about little Preston Davey. That poor baby boy, taken into care as a newborn, seemed happy and healthy in foster care, only to be adopted by a gay male couple and then subjected to months of the most horrific sexual and physical abuse before being murdered. How did this happen? How did red flags get missed?

I’m a mum of two, and like many of you, I’ve always supported loving homes for children who need them. But cases like this shake me to the core. I’m not saying no gay men should ever adopt - that’s not realistic or fair. But we have to be honest: the data and repeated safeguarding failures suggest that male same-sex couples (particularly for very young children) need extra rigorous scrutiny, not less.

Social workers and adoption panels seem terrified of being called homophobic. So they bend over backwards to approve placements that might raise eyebrows in heterosexual couples. Fast-tracked approvals, ignoring instincts about motivation, lack of a female parent for a tiny baby - all while birth mothers are scrutinised to the nth degree. This isn’t kindness to adults; it’s gambling with children’s safety.

Baby Preston had injuries consistent with sexual abuse, multiple hospital visits, concerns raised… and still nothing stopped it. Eight missed opportunities, apparently. That’s not just individual evil - that’s a system that’s lost its nerve.

Can we please have an honest conversation?

Better psychological and background checks specifically for single men and male couples adopting infants.

Mandatory longer observation periods.

No more rushing through to meet diversity targets.

Social workers must be protected from accusations of bias when they flag legitimate concerns about any applicant, including gay men.

Children deserve the best possible chance, not to be experiments in adult validation. Every child in the care system has already been let down once. We owe them robust, evidence-based safeguarding - not ideology.

RIP little Preston. This should never have happened.

What do others think? Am I being unfair?

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Runningswanker · 21/06/2026 08:00

Maura8 · 20/06/2026 04:46

That is textbook homophobia.

According to Mumsnet it isn't, worryingly, it's a difference of opinion.

lavendarwillow · 21/06/2026 01:51

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JoCoFin · 21/06/2026 01:22

Iarthar · 19/06/2026 18:06

What kind of ‘consequences’?

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Does homosexual activity shorten life?
P Cameron et al. Psychol Rep. 1998 Dec.
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Previous estimates from obituaries and pre-1994 sex surveys suggested that the median age of death for homosexuals is less than 50 yr. Four contemporary databases were used to test that estimate: (1) obituaries in the homosexual press from 1993 through 1997 reflected treatment success for those with AIDS but suggested a median age of death less than 50 years; (2) two large random sexuality surveys in 1994one in the USA and the other in Britainyielded results consistent with a median age of death for homosexuals of less than 50 years; (3) the median age of those ever married in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway was about 50 years, while that of the ever homosexually partnered was about 40 yr; further, the married were about 5 times more apt to be old and 4 times less apt to be widowed young; and (4) intravenous drug abusers and homosexuals taking HIV tests in Colorado had almost identical age distributions. The four lines of evidence were consistent with previous findings suggesting that homosexual activity may be associated with a lifespan shortened by 20 to 30 years.

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JoCoFin · 21/06/2026 01:18

Iarthar · 19/06/2026 18:06

What kind of ‘consequences’?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16050624/

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The age distribution of AIDS deaths of males who have sex with males [MSM] was estimated from obituaries in the Washington Blade, a gay newspaper. Statistics from the 2003 HIV/AIDS Surveillance Supplemental Report are highly congruent with deaths of MSM due to AIDS from these obituaries. Death due to AIDS in old age was most frequent for heterosexuals and least frequent for MSM who were drug abusers. Obituaries in the Washington Blade are thus consistent with and may be representative of deaths due to AIDS among MSM. The latest CDC report tends to strengthen the overall finding based upon obituaries: that the lifespan of MSM is shortened two to three decades by AIDS and, possibly, other causes.

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The age distribution of AIDS deaths of males who have sex with males [MSM] was estimated from obituaries in the Washington Blade, a gay newspaper. Statistics from the 2003 HIV/AIDS Surveillance Supplemental Report are highly congruent with deaths of MS...

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ZoeCM · 20/06/2026 13:08

JoCoFin · 19/06/2026 16:17

Dear OP,

I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. I am not a 'homophobe'. I have nothing personally against people with same-sex attraction, but I do not condone the behaviour nor pretend that it is either normal or healthy for anyone.

Why is same-sex attraction not normal or healthy? (I'm straight, BTW.)

Maura8 · 20/06/2026 04:46

JoCoFin · 19/06/2026 16:17

Dear OP,

I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. I am not a 'homophobe'. I have nothing personally against people with same-sex attraction, but I do not condone the behaviour nor pretend that it is either normal or healthy for anyone.

That is textbook homophobia.

Iarthar · 19/06/2026 18:06

JoCoFin · 19/06/2026 18:03

It means I don't pretend it does not have moral, psychological and emotional consequences.

What kind of ‘consequences’?

JoCoFin · 19/06/2026 18:03

It means I don't pretend it does not have moral, psychological and emotional consequences.

Badum · 19/06/2026 17:56

JoCoFin · 19/06/2026 16:17

Dear OP,

I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. I am not a 'homophobe'. I have nothing personally against people with same-sex attraction, but I do not condone the behaviour nor pretend that it is either normal or healthy for anyone.

What does condoning same sex attraction mean?

ConveyancingHelll · 19/06/2026 16:56

ScrollingLeaves · 18/06/2026 17:59

It is completely wrong.

What is? A baby holding a rainbow flag?

JoCoFin · 19/06/2026 16:17

Dear OP,

I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. I am not a 'homophobe'. I have nothing personally against people with same-sex attraction, but I do not condone the behaviour nor pretend that it is either normal or healthy for anyone.

Runningswanker · 18/06/2026 21:06

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/06/2026 18:34

I for one am looking forward to an uptick in applications for social work training from all the arm chair experts in safeguarding.

Agree, I'm looking forward to retiring with all the newcomers who know the answers, looks like we won't even need child protection in a couple of years. We'll just have an army of female angels taking care of children with their innate maternal instincts and goodwill.

ThePieceHall · 18/06/2026 18:42

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/06/2026 18:34

I for one am looking forward to an uptick in applications for social work training from all the arm chair experts in safeguarding.

Don’t be silly, they’ll all be too busy submitting their expressions of interest to become adopters or foster carers, given it’s all so easy and all about the queue jumping and the priority treatment. The 3,000 children in England who are waiting for their forever homes will be welcomed by them with open arms once they are approved and matched.

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/06/2026 18:34

I for one am looking forward to an uptick in applications for social work training from all the arm chair experts in safeguarding.

SparklyHazelEagle · 18/06/2026 18:30

DesertIslandDips · 18/06/2026 18:23

Sleep deprivation is a terrible form of torture-and as a former Social Worker, I can tell you unequivocally that what you refer to as "boo" is neither unremarkable nor normal.It is sadism.

In the interview with criminologist Professor David Wilson, he described the sleep depravation 'boo' incident as torture.

DesertIslandDips · 18/06/2026 18:23

myonly · 18/06/2026 09:21

I am aware that they shouted ‘boo’ and woke Preston up, but that is not sexual abuse, and without the other factors in this case on its own is unremarkable.

Sleep deprivation is a terrible form of torture-and as a former Social Worker, I can tell you unequivocally that what you refer to as "boo" is neither unremarkable nor normal.It is sadism.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/06/2026 17:59

Badum · 18/06/2026 09:35

I could also find loads of worrying shirts about straight couples. Lots of those sites are things where you can print whatever.

I worked in a charity shop and we'd get all kinds of alarming "mummy should have swallowed me", "mummy doesnt only ride horses" type things.

A baby holding a rainbow flag seems the least alarming thing

It is completely wrong.

User122333 · 18/06/2026 17:24

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 20:43

Given he had taken many indecent images and videos of baby Preston the idea that nothing would ever have come up on his devices prior is exceedingly unlikely.

I listened to a podcast last night. His phone contained prior extreme porn, I think some stuff with previous partners, and bestiality.

The decision was made not to prosecute for this. It will lie on file.

This didn’t come out of nowhere. The bestiality makes me think of the monkey torturers.

Runningswanker · 18/06/2026 16:56

notanothernamesurely · 18/06/2026 16:39

I think there needs to be more checks in place to safeguard children - period.

Gone are school nurses, regular health visitors checking in, development checks etc. So many children are abused and there is noone to answer to. More checks are definitely needed!

These checks are in place for children on care orders (which Preston was). Eg enhanced (compulsory) health visiting service, six monthly reviews with a paediatrician which includes assessment of development, pre adoption medical checks, and an expectation that foster carers always err on the side of caution and take children to be checked over if unwell or injured.

I agree though that there should be more for children not in the system.

Runningswanker · 18/06/2026 16:53

Iloveagoodnap · 18/06/2026 14:45

I foster, and am heartbroken for that baby’s birth and foster families.

With regard to social workers missing red flags, I am surprised that the baby had had multiple hospital visits and a broken arm without the social workers being worried. I am fairly sure if that had happened to a baby in my care the baby would have been taken away from me or at the very least there would have been meetings and social workers telling me it wasn’t good enough and I had to be more careful.

I suspect that they were allowed to keep the baby after the hospital admissions because social workers didn’t want to admit they had made a mistake because that would lead to more paperwork, more meetings, finding foster parents with room, going through more adoption assessments etc. I expect they didn’t want the extra work. And in some ways that is understandable as lots of them are very overworked.

I once had concerns about a child that had been placed back with mum from foster care. I reported something that I had good reason to think had happened and would have resulted in that child being removed again. Social workers told me they asked mum and mum denied it happened so they believed her. And that was the end of the matter. I suspect it would have been too much work for social workers to admit they might have made a mistake placing child with mum and having to put her back into the care system.

It's exceptionally difficult to evidence that a child needs to be removed from a parent they've been reunified with. Obviously I don't know the thoughts of that social worker but I'd be very surprised if they just believed a parents view without question, or whether it was something they were having to monitor but still support the child to be with the parent.

The evidence I've seen suggests that the adoptive parents of Preston were plausible, not that professionals had concerns but werent sure if it was enough to challenge, or that there was any obvious fear of challenging decisions. It does seem that the first two visits to a&e were (after discussion re the second one) accepted as concerned parents rightly seeking advice, and an observed bruise accepted to be accidental and not unusual for a baby learning to stand (ie when falls and bumps are common) A possible seizure and D&V/temp and vomiting wouldn't usually be seen as evidence of abuse without other context to suggest care was substandard. If it had been three presentations of unexplained bruises, or even 3 lots of genuine accidental injuries that would have raised alarm bells, eg if not for abuse, signs that carers weren't properly supervising.

mrsbowes · 18/06/2026 16:52

VickyEadie · 18/06/2026 16:26

I haven't seen that reported anywhere - can you link?

Throughout the court case images, videos and texts that were found on their devices were referenced.

Do you not think that if the police had found anything that suggested paedophilia pre-adoption, the prosecution would have mentioned it?

The weren't charged with anything related to CSA images except for the indecent photos/videos of Preston.

notanothernamesurely · 18/06/2026 16:39

I think there needs to be more checks in place to safeguard children - period.

Gone are school nurses, regular health visitors checking in, development checks etc. So many children are abused and there is noone to answer to. More checks are definitely needed!

VickyEadie · 18/06/2026 16:26

Honeyhonay · 18/06/2026 16:21

And yet all their devices were searched as part of the police investigation and that wasn’t found.

I haven't seen that reported anywhere - can you link?

Honeyhonay · 18/06/2026 16:21

VickyEadie · 18/06/2026 16:16

Because I'd bet serious money that the chances this pair did not have extremely unpleasant, safeguarding-relevant stuff on their hard drives are zero.

And yet all their devices were searched as part of the police investigation and that wasn’t found.

VickyEadie · 18/06/2026 16:16

Because I'd bet serious money that the chances this pair did not have extremely unpleasant, safeguarding-relevant stuff on their hard drives are zero.