Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to feel sidelined when husband hosted friend during baby’s witching hour?

319 replies

AquaCrab1703 · 17/06/2026 13:08

I wanted opinions on this scenario last night. I am a FTM to a 13 week old boy, my husband has really disappointed me post natally with various things and I am trying to get opinions on certain things that are now happening if IABU or if it just to be expected. Essentially, I am going through the process of wondering if I would be better off divorcing and being single.

Last night he invited a friend over, he set the table and made dinner. He has never done this for me in the whole post natal period. Friend comes over at the height of witching over (5pm) - baby crying, needing fed, over stimulated etc. The friend insisted on getting a pic with baby then I was left to it. I went into the bedroom the whole evening whilst they sat in the living room drinking beer and having dinner. I could not come to dinner as I was busy with baby - they did not even make a plate up and bring it to me. I had a couple of oat cakes. I settled the baby and stayed in the bedroom with baby in the cot, then when his friend was due to leave I got up and said bye to the friend.

My husband sleeps in a seperate room now so I got the baby down at 9pm and then did not see him until 7-8am this morning.

I was starving and woke up this morning after doing a couple of nightfeeds thinking I am being royally taken the piss out of, but wanted opinions. AIBU to think this is a weird dynamic?

OP posts:
Wildefish · 19/06/2026 11:06

Jillybloop393 · 19/06/2026 08:10

This!
You honestly sound like you sat upstairs waiting to be shown some attention - which you didn't get. Your husband probably should have called you/popped up to see if you were ok, but he didn't. You sat up there playing the princess for no reason whatsoever. Sounds like there's more than one baby in the house. Sorry.

A bit harsh…I love the way mumsnetters love yo kick someone and. They’re down. You could have just said perhaps you need to ask for what you want.

Autumngirl5 · 19/06/2026 10:12

If you had just taken the baby downstairs and had a drink or some food with them none of this would have blown up. I wonder if you sat upstairs seething about your husband and his friend, the baby may have picked up on your stress and then was even harder to settle?
I mean this kindly but maybe try to relax more. Hopefully as the baby grows, your husband’s confidence with him will grow too.
Are you both quite young?

AquaCrab1703 · 19/06/2026 10:03

Jillybloop393 · 19/06/2026 08:10

This!
You honestly sound like you sat upstairs waiting to be shown some attention - which you didn't get. Your husband probably should have called you/popped up to see if you were ok, but he didn't. You sat up there playing the princess for no reason whatsoever. Sounds like there's more than one baby in the house. Sorry.

and for the record my husband does not show me any attention as a baseline so there would be no point trying to manipulate it out of him by sulking 🤣

OP posts:
AquaCrab1703 · 19/06/2026 10:02

Jillybloop393 · 19/06/2026 08:10

This!
You honestly sound like you sat upstairs waiting to be shown some attention - which you didn't get. Your husband probably should have called you/popped up to see if you were ok, but he didn't. You sat up there playing the princess for no reason whatsoever. Sounds like there's more than one baby in the house. Sorry.

I sat in the next room settling a screaming baby - who usually becomes unsettled at that time of day (my husband would know this if he was not ‘working’ all the time) and then fed him - all in all in took 1-2 hours, I then stepped out to allow his friend to have a cuddle and let daddy play disney dad for his half an hour of fame - all whilst they ate and drank beers in the next room. I was not sulking, just taking care of my Son.

OP posts:
NeverKnowinglyUnderstated · 19/06/2026 08:12

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 13:21

You sound like a martyr, there’s really no reason you couldn’t have had dinner. You choose to lock yourself in your room to make a point.
You know he made dinner, you know he laid the table and then you went upstairs and never resurfaced.
Its weird your DH didn’t just call you down but there’s really no need for your weird behaviour either.
Babies are perfectly able to have someone else in the house on a rare occasion after 5pm.
‘I settled the baby and stayed in the bedroom with baby in the cot, then when his friend was due to leave I got up and said bye to the friend.’
Why did you just stay upstairs even beyond settling the baby?
You just sat there next to a baby sleeping in the cot getting angrier about how hungry you were when you could have just gone downstairs?

Edited

This!

Should have read the whole thread before posting! He's a waste of space, if what all you've posted is true, op, I'd be making plans to leave and I genuinely don't say that lightly. And tell his mother to do one too!

Jillybloop393 · 19/06/2026 08:10

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 13:21

You sound like a martyr, there’s really no reason you couldn’t have had dinner. You choose to lock yourself in your room to make a point.
You know he made dinner, you know he laid the table and then you went upstairs and never resurfaced.
Its weird your DH didn’t just call you down but there’s really no need for your weird behaviour either.
Babies are perfectly able to have someone else in the house on a rare occasion after 5pm.
‘I settled the baby and stayed in the bedroom with baby in the cot, then when his friend was due to leave I got up and said bye to the friend.’
Why did you just stay upstairs even beyond settling the baby?
You just sat there next to a baby sleeping in the cot getting angrier about how hungry you were when you could have just gone downstairs?

Edited

This!
You honestly sound like you sat upstairs waiting to be shown some attention - which you didn't get. Your husband probably should have called you/popped up to see if you were ok, but he didn't. You sat up there playing the princess for no reason whatsoever. Sounds like there's more than one baby in the house. Sorry.

Autumngirl5 · 19/06/2026 06:59

I’m sorry … some just can not cope with babies. My son in law couldn’t.

He was quite traumatised by having a tiny baby around and told me weeks after the birth that he would never have another child and he didn’t.
But as my grandson grew older into a toddler he became such a good dad.

AmberUser · 19/06/2026 05:29

I'm sorry witching hour is kicking you in the teeth. I'd say if it happens again, stay with them, and see how much they enjoy their dinner while sharing a room with a baby screaming itself purple.

Hamela · 19/06/2026 05:11

Do your son a favour. Get out and raise him properly, not to grow up imitating this useless douche bag. If not for yourself, then for this small boy,, who will be an adult man in a truly astonishingly short time.

Listen to how you feel. You created life, you allowed this man to further his genetics using your health, love and time, and he can't even pass you a plate of food?! Get angry. Get productive. Get a better life for you and your child.

It's not about being a martyr, it's about living without basic respect for so long that you've become unsure about whether it's really happening. We are here to remind you of your worth.

AquaCrab1703 · 19/06/2026 04:29

MaddestGranny · 18/06/2026 19:22

He's a dud. He is probably (closet) gay, as another pp has already mentioned.

It's not going to get better.
Can you go back to your parents with your DC?
You need to start your life again without this utter waste of space.
I know it's hard.You will be much happier without him. What good is he?

Well none - I think I just need fo write it down and read it back and I can see how awful it is. Its essentially just me and my Son anyway at the moment - I do all the parenting - its easier when he is not here as I can just get on with things, luckily he is a great sleeper and feeds well. I do not understand it as I feel its my hisbands loss - he smiles and coos and babbles away when I take him myself for day trips when he is away golfing etc.

OP posts:
Wildefish · 18/06/2026 22:26

AquaCrab1703 · 17/06/2026 13:08

I wanted opinions on this scenario last night. I am a FTM to a 13 week old boy, my husband has really disappointed me post natally with various things and I am trying to get opinions on certain things that are now happening if IABU or if it just to be expected. Essentially, I am going through the process of wondering if I would be better off divorcing and being single.

Last night he invited a friend over, he set the table and made dinner. He has never done this for me in the whole post natal period. Friend comes over at the height of witching over (5pm) - baby crying, needing fed, over stimulated etc. The friend insisted on getting a pic with baby then I was left to it. I went into the bedroom the whole evening whilst they sat in the living room drinking beer and having dinner. I could not come to dinner as I was busy with baby - they did not even make a plate up and bring it to me. I had a couple of oat cakes. I settled the baby and stayed in the bedroom with baby in the cot, then when his friend was due to leave I got up and said bye to the friend.

My husband sleeps in a seperate room now so I got the baby down at 9pm and then did not see him until 7-8am this morning.

I was starving and woke up this morning after doing a couple of nightfeeds thinking I am being royally taken the piss out of, but wanted opinions. AIBU to think this is a weird dynamic?

As someone who has spent years being disappointed by men I’ve come to realise unless you spell it out for them some guys just don’t get it. Try telling him what you want and need. If he still can’t do it …bye bye

MaddestGranny · 18/06/2026 19:22

He's a dud. He is probably (closet) gay, as another pp has already mentioned.

It's not going to get better.
Can you go back to your parents with your DC?
You need to start your life again without this utter waste of space.
I know it's hard.You will be much happier without him. What good is he?

Bluestar1971 · 18/06/2026 19:21

Get rid, better off on your own

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 18/06/2026 19:20

hcee19 · 18/06/2026 18:54

The baby should fit in with you, not the other way around. You have made a mountain out of a molehill. I imagine you were sat on the bed next to the sleeping baby and working yourself up , getting angry. You had a baby, the world isn't going to stop for you. You have made this situation bigger than it need be...

Can you read the OPs updates please.

hcee19 · 18/06/2026 18:54

AquaCrab1703 · 17/06/2026 13:08

I wanted opinions on this scenario last night. I am a FTM to a 13 week old boy, my husband has really disappointed me post natally with various things and I am trying to get opinions on certain things that are now happening if IABU or if it just to be expected. Essentially, I am going through the process of wondering if I would be better off divorcing and being single.

Last night he invited a friend over, he set the table and made dinner. He has never done this for me in the whole post natal period. Friend comes over at the height of witching over (5pm) - baby crying, needing fed, over stimulated etc. The friend insisted on getting a pic with baby then I was left to it. I went into the bedroom the whole evening whilst they sat in the living room drinking beer and having dinner. I could not come to dinner as I was busy with baby - they did not even make a plate up and bring it to me. I had a couple of oat cakes. I settled the baby and stayed in the bedroom with baby in the cot, then when his friend was due to leave I got up and said bye to the friend.

My husband sleeps in a seperate room now so I got the baby down at 9pm and then did not see him until 7-8am this morning.

I was starving and woke up this morning after doing a couple of nightfeeds thinking I am being royally taken the piss out of, but wanted opinions. AIBU to think this is a weird dynamic?

The baby should fit in with you, not the other way around. You have made a mountain out of a molehill. I imagine you were sat on the bed next to the sleeping baby and working yourself up , getting angry. You had a baby, the world isn't going to stop for you. You have made this situation bigger than it need be...

HopeIsAScaryThing · 18/06/2026 16:19

AquaCrab1703 · 18/06/2026 10:16

I ended up going in for reduced fetal movement and he didnt come with me as he was working the next day, first scan he was on a golf trip and said ‘did he really need to be there’. I was sick on the carpeted floor and he asked me to make sure I make the toilet next time as it stained the carpet. Typing this out I am so so sad.

He doesn't like you.

It sounds like he wants to be seen as a 'family man' to outsiders but has zero interest in actually being one.

I'm sorry. But I'd still get rid of him.

AguNwaanyi · 18/06/2026 15:12

LilacReader · 17/06/2026 16:56

I'm sorry I know I'm going to get flamed for this but what I read when I saw your initial story was that he doesn't want to share a bed with his woman, hasn't cooked a meal for his woman but will not only sort out a meal for his 'man friend' but will also lay a table out with cutlery and stress about him wearing clothes that his good 'friend' has bought. Are you sure your husband is not gay? I just don't know many men that would make such an effort with other guys! Yes, order a takeaway, yes, go away with them but there are a few things you've said that make me question this!

I think this quote from Marilyn Frye is a better explanation of this aspect of male culture:

“To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex.

Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving.”

AguNwaanyi · 18/06/2026 11:42

AquaCrab1703 · 18/06/2026 10:16

I ended up going in for reduced fetal movement and he didnt come with me as he was working the next day, first scan he was on a golf trip and said ‘did he really need to be there’. I was sick on the carpeted floor and he asked me to make sure I make the toilet next time as it stained the carpet. Typing this out I am so so sad.

What does he do OP? You mentioned something about him saying given his profession this is what to expect.

In any case, unless he is a professional degenerate, there’s no career that should lead to this. It also sounds like he’s aware of what he’s doing and enjoys humiliating you. I really hope that you find the strength to leave him ❤️

ThreadGuardDog · 18/06/2026 11:30

Thebigonesgetaway · 17/06/2026 16:28

again I don’t see the issue, he’s allowed friends over and he did the work.

I also assume your on maternity and he’s working, so that’s why much falls to you right now, you can go back to work and split it equally if you feel better about it. But generally the person at home does the majority especially if co sleeping or breastfeeding.

its concerning that it’s only 13 weeks. Yoire considering divorce, pissed he’d a mate over, and have already read him the riot act multiple times, so a chaotic household for an infant.

if it doesn’t work, go back to work, stop co sleeping, stop breastfeeding. you don’t need to take a year off. It is better for your child not to have an exhausted mother, and a resentful one where even friends are a war zone and repeated arguments at home,

Your bar for useless men is on the floor. And your post is the definition of misogyny. You clearly don’t recognise weaponised incompetence, or are prepared to give a free pass for it.

MyMilchick · 18/06/2026 11:29

AquaCrab1703 · 18/06/2026 10:16

I ended up going in for reduced fetal movement and he didnt come with me as he was working the next day, first scan he was on a golf trip and said ‘did he really need to be there’. I was sick on the carpeted floor and he asked me to make sure I make the toilet next time as it stained the carpet. Typing this out I am so so sad.

That's so sad to read. It sounds like he doesn't care about you or his child at all. You shouldn't stay with a man like that. You and your son deserve so much better

Tamtim · 18/06/2026 11:16

It’s really disheartening reading some of the responses. Yes, we all need to communicate but this loser is doing sod all and isn’t even trying. Why should OP have to ask her husband to step up, to involve himself in parenting their shared baby? Why should she even have to ask for him to include her in a dinner he prepared? It’s outrageous that he didn’t make her a plate, he left nothing for her. What an absolutely inconsiderate man.

It is hard for dads as it is mums with a new baby but basic respect and responsibility towards baby and each other should happen without words.

It shocks me the toxic language used against women when it’s as plain as day that their partners are not stepping up. We’re martyrs, we must teach them, write them lists, not expect basic consideration and manners. It’s depressing to read.

I hope you are able to stay with your parents for a bit. Your dad sounds like a good man.

Wdutua · 18/06/2026 10:52

I feel so sorry for you. Your DC will be closer and more loving to you.

My DH was great at the time (early 70s). He loved doing all he could, sometimes I felt he was a better "Mum" than me! When he was holding them he would be kissing the top of their heads a lot and the giggles and laughter coming from the changing mat was great to hear. Your H will be missing all of this, you wont.

Peterdottir · 18/06/2026 10:39

cantthinkofagoodusername2026 · 18/06/2026 10:30

The amount of people offering suggestions such as sitting him down and explaining what he needs to do and making him lists etc is really quite disheartening. We should not need to do this! If my husband dies before me I really can't see myself getting involved with another man, it's just so much work. The good ones are few and far between it seems.

Omg. I say this to my sister and my friends. I am married for the 2nd time (19 years) to a great man. My first husband and I split when our son was 3. I really cannot imagine starting again for a 3rd time. This is my 2nd and final one!

cantthinkofagoodusername2026 · 18/06/2026 10:30

The amount of people offering suggestions such as sitting him down and explaining what he needs to do and making him lists etc is really quite disheartening. We should not need to do this! If my husband dies before me I really can't see myself getting involved with another man, it's just so much work. The good ones are few and far between it seems.

AquaCrab1703 · 18/06/2026 10:16

Crumpled86 · 18/06/2026 07:58

I won't lie op, I think his relationship with his friend is more than just friendly.

Your relationship lacks any kind of love and respect. In each pregnancy especially in the last trimester I would be up loads at night. My dh would wake up and check on me, give me a back rub, go down and get a hot water bottle etc. I was never an inconvenience. Instead he set out to ease my discomfort as best he could. My dh has always been a present dad. I don't say this to show off or upset you but better is possible and out there. A partner should rise you up whereas yours is a dead weight. I'd drop him in the sea.

I think going to see your family is a wise decision and I'd get their help and support in making plans to leave. You have already had conversations about his behaviour and given him ultimatum. He hasn't changed because he doesn't want to.

One thing I will say is that in the early few days dh would ask me for opinions on everything with regard to our dd1. I told him to pull out the manual for her that I clearly had in my back pocket. Yes it was sarcastic but I told him I was winging it like everyone else and just getting to know her and her needs. I responded how felt natural to me. He admitted he was afraid of making a mistake, she was tiny and precious and he wanted to do a good job. I told him to trust his instincts and he did. So in a round about way I am saying i made point not to micromanage him but could only do so because he never put dd in danger. If your dh is then of course you need to step in.

Edited

I ended up going in for reduced fetal movement and he didnt come with me as he was working the next day, first scan he was on a golf trip and said ‘did he really need to be there’. I was sick on the carpeted floor and he asked me to make sure I make the toilet next time as it stained the carpet. Typing this out I am so so sad.

OP posts: