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AIBU to be upset he has cut off my eldest daughter?

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GeorgeClarkefan · 17/06/2026 12:50

I initiated a separation from my husband, the father of my youngest daughter two months ago. He has been the only father figure in my eldest daughter’s life and they had a good relationship.

He has engaged a solicitor who has now sent me a letter re: shared residency of our joint child and our house which I can stay in until our joint child goes to university (or is 19) no surprises.

I have to acknowledge however, that my eldest (other than a quarter of my assets) has no claims on any marital assets and there is also a line which says that in the event of my husband’s death my stepdaughter will not assert her rights until younger daughter goes to university (or is 19).

None of this bothers me but I am shocked and distraught that my husband never asks about eldest or includes her in any outings he has had with youngest.

When I challenged him he says he misses her but it would be too complicated to include her as the law is brutal and she could establish some rights if he continued a relationship with her, a child he has known for over eight years and who he saw more often than his eldest child. I am shocked he can walk away from her so easily.

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CandidRobin · 17/06/2026 23:22

To be fair, you were warned that you wouldn't even things up by this course of action and would likely make things worse for your eldest child. You've highlighted your husband saw more of your child than his own yet could never empathise with that child and why she wanted to protect time with her Dad and paternal family.

OldCrohn · 17/06/2026 22:55

bigfacthunter · 17/06/2026 21:43

I am so relieved to see this comment. Literally cannot believe the heartless bs on here. I hope none of these awful bastards are around children.

It's all a matter of perspective. Imo the people to be judged are the parents inserting random adults into their poor kid's homes and hoping it doesn't go wrong just so they're not lonely at night themselves.

PollyBell · 17/06/2026 22:54

CypressGrove · 17/06/2026 22:52

Many woman also don't continue to have a relationship with their ex-step-children after their relationship with their father ends either though. In fact, I've seen plenty of posts on here where not seeing his kids anymore is touted as one of the benefits of the breakup when a woman is considering leaving the relationship.

Exactly, but call me cynical but I still think men are seen as a bank

CypressGrove · 17/06/2026 22:52

sprigatito · 17/06/2026 20:56

A lot of men have very transient attachments to children, unfortunately. They often see them as a subset of the woman they are with, so they can perform “fantastic father” incredibly convincingly until they are no longer with the mother, then the relationship just dissipates overnight. Lots of these men then go on to be “fantastic father” to the next woman’s kids, while neglecting their own. I wouldn’t be surprised if his interest in your younger daughter wanes as well, especially if he acquires new stepchildren at some point.

Many woman also don't continue to have a relationship with their ex-step-children after their relationship with their father ends either though. In fact, I've seen plenty of posts on here where not seeing his kids anymore is touted as one of the benefits of the breakup when a woman is considering leaving the relationship.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 17/06/2026 22:23

@GeorgeClarkefan how often have you been catching up with SD since split? You been taking her out, buying her things?

betty62 · 17/06/2026 22:22

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 17/06/2026 22:06

Well yes and his eldest was in ops life for same time, but she wasn’t welcomed by op into her dads home, op would stop her having any interaction with the youngest

I haven’t read any previous threads so was unaware of that. However, the principle remains that stepchildren should not be classed as somehow less than biological children (and it seems that may apply to the OP too).

InterIgnis · 17/06/2026 22:19

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That bond was dependent on his marriage to OP, which is now over. He was kind to her as his stepchild, yes, but he isn’t someone that ever presented himself as her father or encouraged her to view him as such.

Whatever bond they may or may not have had is clearly not worth the drama that attempting to maintain it would bring, even if he were so inclined. It likely wouldn’t be to the benefit of his own eldest daughter either, who I imagine is quite relieved at no longer having to deal with OP trying to dominate her family.

Loadsapandas · 17/06/2026 22:18

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What makes you think he was a lovely adult to her?

and even if he was, does that mean they had a close bond?

OP was lovely to SD and they don’t seem to have a bond.

Many, many SKs live with parents who are kind but aren’t bonded to them.

The SP board will tell you this.

What makes you think this isn’t possible?

MidnightPatrol · 17/06/2026 22:18

betty62 · 17/06/2026 21:52

What is wrong with all of you? He was, to all intents and purposes, her father for EIGHT YEARS! I don’t agree that he was simply ‘tolerating’ her for all that time. In every family I know that has step-children they are fully embraced by the entire family, including grand-parents and aunts/uncles, because although they are not biologically related, that does not matter. Would you think that adopted children should also just be tolerated and not considered to be part of the family?
OP you are not being unreasonable. Your ex-partner worrying about what your child make take from his child just shows what an utter twat he is. You made the right decision to leave him.

I lived with my mums partner (my ‘step dad’) for that long, my mum is still with him in fact, and he has contacted me zero times in the twenty years since I left.

No interest at all.

The feeling is mutual…!

Viviennemary · 17/06/2026 22:10

It is sad for your child if she wanted the relationship to continue. But he isn't her Dad. This is often what happens when people split up.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 17/06/2026 22:06

betty62 · 17/06/2026 21:52

What is wrong with all of you? He was, to all intents and purposes, her father for EIGHT YEARS! I don’t agree that he was simply ‘tolerating’ her for all that time. In every family I know that has step-children they are fully embraced by the entire family, including grand-parents and aunts/uncles, because although they are not biologically related, that does not matter. Would you think that adopted children should also just be tolerated and not considered to be part of the family?
OP you are not being unreasonable. Your ex-partner worrying about what your child make take from his child just shows what an utter twat he is. You made the right decision to leave him.

Well yes and his eldest was in ops life for same time, but she wasn’t welcomed by op into her dads home, op would stop her having any interaction with the youngest

bigfacthunter · 17/06/2026 22:04

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pragmatismuniversalsentimentalist · 17/06/2026 21:58

Now that Ive read the thread in full i remember the OP now. It was very obvious she wanted to play happy families with her own two daughter and the husband and she saw no proper place in that family for her husbands daughter. She strongly facilitated the relationship between her own two daughters and saw her step daughter as a threat so didnt ever let the stepdaughter spend time with her little sister with op's older daughter being around too. It was ridiculous.
She expected her own older daughter to be treated as family by her in laws despite being no relation to them but then clearly tried to push her own step daughter to the edges within their close family unit.
And now its blown up in her face.

Loadsapandas · 17/06/2026 21:55

betty62 · 17/06/2026 21:52

What is wrong with all of you? He was, to all intents and purposes, her father for EIGHT YEARS! I don’t agree that he was simply ‘tolerating’ her for all that time. In every family I know that has step-children they are fully embraced by the entire family, including grand-parents and aunts/uncles, because although they are not biologically related, that does not matter. Would you think that adopted children should also just be tolerated and not considered to be part of the family?
OP you are not being unreasonable. Your ex-partner worrying about what your child make take from his child just shows what an utter twat he is. You made the right decision to leave him.

But the family rejected OP DD? They barely tolerated her yet the OP continued the relationship.

They literally didn’t want the poor child around? Which was the cause of OP anguish.

I’ve never read anything from this OP showing ex was more than civil to the DD anyway.

Minnie798 · 17/06/2026 21:54

Your eldest dd is not his child.
He doesn't want to end up being financially responsible for her in any way, shape or form. So he's setting boundaries early in the divorce process.
There has been so much drama around ' equality ' for your eldest dd. He put up with it whilst married to you, but can distance himself completely from it now. He may even feel relieved that life no longer has to be one big battle.
Whatever his reasons are, I think you need to accept it.

Loadsapandas · 17/06/2026 21:52

@bigfacthunter @WhyWouldSomeoneDoThat If there was a bond between Ex and DD he wouldn’t have walked away. This is not a case where the parent had severed the bond, in fact the OP has never really described instances of this bond - indeed, DH didn’t seem to try and protect his SD feelings before.

He might well have a moral duty to continue to care for DD, but then doesn’t that mean that OP should still (if she ever) care for her SD?

In reality, both parents have a duty to protect their DC and failed by exposing them to unsatisfactory relationships.
Neither SP was responsible for the others DC.

betty62 · 17/06/2026 21:52

MidnightPatrol · 17/06/2026 14:10

Your eldest daughter isn’t his child, and in the event of a break up… there’s no real reason for any relationship to exist between them.

Most step parents are just tolerating the step children, as part of the relationship.

What is wrong with all of you? He was, to all intents and purposes, her father for EIGHT YEARS! I don’t agree that he was simply ‘tolerating’ her for all that time. In every family I know that has step-children they are fully embraced by the entire family, including grand-parents and aunts/uncles, because although they are not biologically related, that does not matter. Would you think that adopted children should also just be tolerated and not considered to be part of the family?
OP you are not being unreasonable. Your ex-partner worrying about what your child make take from his child just shows what an utter twat he is. You made the right decision to leave him.

bigfacthunter · 17/06/2026 21:43

WhyWouldSomeoneDoThat · 17/06/2026 14:37

I find opinions about stepparents on mumsnet brutal. No acknowledgment of the bond that can develop between a parental figure and the child of their partner WHO ALL LIVE TOGETHER. The argument that only biological parents are real parents is utter bollocks: what about all the absent fathers who want nothing to do with their children as it’s too much of an inconvenience for their lives- are they more of a parent than a stepparent who takes care of a child in their care every day? Absolutely not! What about adoptive parents? Fathers with children who are unknowingly not theirs but bring them up their entire lives? It’s as if only legal rights count and emotional bonds don’t have anything to do with relationships!!???

If a parent figure lives with and cares for a child as a stepparent then I think they have a moral responsibility to continue a relationship with the child if parents separate, if the child wants to of course. Just abandoning them as an appendage of the relationship when parents separate is heartless and cruel towards the child.

I am so relieved to see this comment. Literally cannot believe the heartless bs on here. I hope none of these awful bastards are around children.

pragmatismuniversalsentimentalist · 17/06/2026 21:34

GeorgeClarkefan · 17/06/2026 14:45

My youngest is half-sibling to both my eldest and his eldest but has only ever lived with my eldest.

I have never lived with his eldest and she hasn’t been remotely interested in me or my eldest.

My husband however, lived with my eldest full time and had a close relationship with her. Now he feels he can’t continue a relationship with her as it’s ’too complicated.’

OP you dont seem to want to answer the questions asking how old your eldest daughter is and how old your youngest is? Its relevant to this. If your eldest is 8.5 and has literally lived with this man her whole life, i can sort of see why you feel upset. If shes 17 and he only moved in when she was 10, thats a different situation.

ToffeeCrabApple · 17/06/2026 21:20

I would view this no differently if op was male & expected an ex wife to maintain a relationship with step DC post divorce.

The whole notion of blended families is generally predicated upon the parents choosing their own wants/happiness over what is likely to be best for their DC long term.

Even in ops situation her choice to divorce has been about her & does not benefit her DC.
When married her youngest was treated to stuff by in laws and eldest was left out.

This will continue to happen post divorce - so the separation does not improve anything for her eldest. Eldest loses a father figure albeit not a bio dad.
Her youngest has to endure parents separation & stared custody so is worse off.

Op gets her feelings of guilt over her eldests feelings and dislike of the inequality somewhat assuaged.

iniati · 17/06/2026 21:18

Sassylovesbooks · 17/06/2026 18:39

You wanted a happy blended family where all the children got on and were treated equally by both sides of the family. This is the image/fantasy that you wanted but the reality has been very different.

Your in-laws are happy to have a relationship with your step-daughter and your youngest, because they are their grandchildren. They aren't in the least bit interested in your eldest daughter... polite, give presents at birthday/Christmas but that's as far as they wish to go. You can't force them to have a relationship with her, rightly or wrongly, that's not your choice to make.

You wouldn't allow your youngest and your step-daughter to spend time together without your eldest, and this has caused friction between your husband and you, as well as your step-daughter.

You are obsessed with everything being split 'fairly', and everyone being equal but that's never been the case since day one. It must have been obvious to you that your in-laws weren't going to treat your daughter as part of their family. You must have realised that this would cause issues? Having a child with your husband, has made those differences even more glaringly obvious.

It's no one's fault that your eldest has a deadbeat as a Dad, who doesn't see her and she has no contact with his family. It's circumstances that are out of anyone's control.

You've split from your husband, and you're still wanting everything equal with regards to the children!! It wasn't in marriage, it's not going to be in divorce! Your husband's obligation is to your step-daughter and youngest, not to your eldest. He's legally protecting his daughter's, and there's nothing wrong in that. I think he's stepped back, because if he continued contact with your eldest, your obsession with equality would never stop.

You should have never continued in the relationship, as soon as you realised your expectations weren't going to be met. It would have saved your eldest daughter an awful lot of heartache.

Yes.

The short version, having followed the OP's previous threads is - her vision of a happy blended family has always been her DDs being front and centre and the SD as little there as possible. She broke up with her ex because that wasn't happening but somehow still expects it to happen!

Obviously he should continue to treat her DD well even though she has no intention of seeing her SD ever again

Loadsapandas · 17/06/2026 21:17

@YourLoftyCyanZebra i feel sorry for all of the children, this won’t end here, the tensions will be lifelong.

I also feel sorry for the OP in a way. It doesn’t sound like her marriage was particularly loving anyway and I suspect she was desperate for a happy large family so shut her eyes and didn’t protect her DD.

I am a SD, have been since age 2 (my SDad is amazing) and as with others I don’t think I’d ever choose this for my DC and I pray to god if DH and I split that he doesn’t blend with them.

PollyBell · 17/06/2026 21:11

sprigatito · 17/06/2026 20:56

A lot of men have very transient attachments to children, unfortunately. They often see them as a subset of the woman they are with, so they can perform “fantastic father” incredibly convincingly until they are no longer with the mother, then the relationship just dissipates overnight. Lots of these men then go on to be “fantastic father” to the next woman’s kids, while neglecting their own. I wouldn’t be surprised if his interest in your younger daughter wanes as well, especially if he acquires new stepchildren at some point.

But he ia not the chils father of course when womwn want money then it seems to be an issue

And adopting is not the same thing as being a step parent i cant beleive women cant see this when they chose to blend families

YourLoftyCyanZebra · 17/06/2026 21:11

Loadsapandas · 17/06/2026 21:03

TBF most ppl aren’t saying the ex’s actions are ok, they aren’t.

Many of us are saying the signs were there at the start and OP should have walked away to protect her DD.

Same as DH should have walked away when he saw his SD wasn’t happy with OP and her DD. They continued, got married, had a child and are now in this mess.

Many SM aren’t happy with the SKs, live for ‘when it’s just us/our unit’. They should move on before they have kids. The parent (their partner) should move on when they see SM isn’t happy with the SKs/ their parenting.

Too many people ignore the DC issue in blended families and voila - you have an unhappy household.

I agree that the whole situation could have been avoided by not blending families. I also think that the same grace not be shown to a stepmum or her family at all. The way some posters are talking about OPs eldest DD is more than a little 'snide' and I feel really sorry for all the kids.

PatchworkCow · 17/06/2026 21:03

This thread is ringing so many bells for me, I'm wondering if I've previously read posts by the same poster. Although this type of situation is so common I guess it could be a coincidence. There's a lot of similarities though.
If it's the same poster the eldest DD had ADHD and a nasty POS for a bio dad, who she saw regularly and who had a detrimental effect on her behaviour/attitude.

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