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AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.

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fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

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countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 08:23

Secretseverywhere · 18/06/2026 08:10

You don’t think its a really negative cycle of overhype/ scapegoating?

I just think it’d be better to celebrate the team for getting to whatever stage rather than assuming you will win and anything less is epic failure. It just seems like unnecessary pressure on the players / team.

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We will take one game at a time and enjoy every win, if we get more.
my husband is flying out to Boston later today, so I am sure he will have an amazing time .

tilypu · 18/06/2026 08:19

ERthree · 18/06/2026 08:14

I am never disappointed in our team as i never expect anything from them😁We are there to enjoy ourselves, nothing more. NO Scotland, No Party

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Exactly this!

The joy in Scottish football comes from having no expectations, and enjoying the ride anyway, win or (most likely) lose. Then when we have success (and honestly, qualifying in the world cup is as big a success to us, as winning it would be for Germany), we will make the most of it!

ERthree · 18/06/2026 08:14

Well1mBack · 16/06/2026 21:41

Ach well, don't get your hopes up, Scottish football is a source of constant disappointment to those of us who support it. I think all us Scots are hoping for at the moment is to at least make it past the first round of the world cup! 😂

Edit: sorry I meant to reply to the op?! I'm tired tonight ...

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I am never disappointed in our team as i never expect anything from them😁We are there to enjoy ourselves, nothing more. NO Scotland, No Party

Scotland Outlander GIF by USA Kilts
Secretseverywhere · 18/06/2026 08:10

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:53

No need to feel sorry for us sweetie….

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You don’t think its a really negative cycle of overhype/ scapegoating?

I just think it’d be better to celebrate the team for getting to whatever stage rather than assuming you will win and anything less is epic failure. It just seems like unnecessary pressure on the players / team.

dopaminego · 18/06/2026 08:04

@countrylife00 You're so proud of your smug posts aren't you! What do you get out of them? Are you one of those people who relishes winding people up? Personally I like to find common ground with folk but each to their own.

tilypu · 18/06/2026 08:00

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

We really do.

I've just seen shocking footage of a solo England supporter in Boston, in a pub full of Scottish people. The hate is tangible.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtKzUcxrg3/?igsh=aHIya3M5NmZxNHF6

Juliette Amie on Instagram: "the Dubliner really is the Scotlander 👀 @thedublinerboston"

7,418 likes, 131 comments - julietteamie_ on June 17, 2026: "the Dubliner really is the Scotlander 👀 @thedublinerboston".

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtKzUcxrg3?igsh=aHIya3M5NmZxNHF6

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 07:55

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:51

Oh, so you didn’t celebrate the Scottish win?
Rest my case.
lots of happy people at work this morning and the sun is out with 26 degrees today. Perfect day.

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You rest your case? I rest mine. Your comments about the Scottish on this thread are appalling, so I can see why you maybe had a hard time here.

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:53

Secretseverywhere · 17/06/2026 23:13

I always feel so sorry for England with comments like this. They win one game and people (especially the media) have them going all the way. So then there’s the (almost inevitable) crushing defeat when they lose.

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No need to feel sorry for us sweetie….

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:51

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 06:45

I wonder why you didn’t have a nice time in Scotland.

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Oh, so you didn’t celebrate the Scottish win?
Rest my case.
lots of happy people at work this morning and the sun is out with 26 degrees today. Perfect day.

BuildbyNumbere · 18/06/2026 07:48

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 22:35

Others had already responded before me, and they managed to do so without the same hidden negativity or pretence.

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Well many have said the same thing as me since! Some are a lot ruder! Why don’t you go pick an argument with them?!?

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/06/2026 07:28

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 07:14

I find you objectionable too actually.

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🤷

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 07:14

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/06/2026 07:13

If you find them objectionable, why not quote and reply to those then, seeing as you seem to have successfully found the quote button.

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I find you objectionable too actually.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/06/2026 07:13

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 06:56

Have you read all her posts?

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If you find them objectionable, why not quote and reply to those then, seeing as you seem to have successfully found the quote button.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 18/06/2026 07:00

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

Absolutely BS!

Scot living in England, don’t believe the media lies!

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 06:56

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/06/2026 06:55

If you can't cope with the absolute mildest social media post celebrating a good win then you won't have a nice time in life.

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Have you read all her posts?

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/06/2026 06:55

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 06:45

I wonder why you didn’t have a nice time in Scotland.

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If you can't cope with the absolute mildest social media post celebrating a good win then you won't have a nice time in life.

dailychallenge · 18/06/2026 06:49

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

No we don’t. We really don’t like the media coverage when it comes to England and sport but we don’t hate the English.

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 06:45

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 23:01

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I wonder why you didn’t have a nice time in Scotland.

Blacksheepagain · 18/06/2026 06:43

I don’t hate the English, I just switch off whenever they play because of the commentary. They have 1 good match & they’re going to go all the way. I love Scotland & the Tartan Army, there’s nae chance of us winning but Yes Sir we can Boogie 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

PomplaMouse · 18/06/2026 06:21

Honestly, it feels like there are some in here who are just desperate for England to be universally hated, despite all evidence to the contrary.

It's a bit weird.

PomplaMouse · 18/06/2026 06:19

Movinginthesunlight · 17/06/2026 21:45

Youre the only Scottish person that ive ever heard say that. We are English and live in Scotland and they absolutely cannot stand the English football team nor its fans. It seems to be a competition of who can hate us the most.

During the euros every single England game my local city was full of people wearing the opposite sides football tops. And I mean FULL. Every place showing the matches we were the only England fans and when we dared to score and even slightly celebrate we almost got lynched on several occasions. It was totally bizzare, people screaming their heads off, bright red in the face whenever an opposing side scored. Weird and embarrassing.

To note, we have no issues at any other time!

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It really isnt that obscure a view.

Yougov polls for the last world cup only had about a quarter of Scots rooting against England, for example.

You're probably just hearing the loudest voices, not the majority who are either well-wishers or ambivalent.

AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.
Harry12345 · 18/06/2026 00:37

Summerlovin24 · 18/06/2026 00:35

Happened to be in Glasgow at the weekend, so watched Scotland in the pub. Amazing tartan army. So much fun and NO TROUBLE and no dickheads
I am english but absolutely loved it.

Really were you not attacked and shouted at considering we all hate English people?

Summerlovin24 · 18/06/2026 00:35

Happened to be in Glasgow at the weekend, so watched Scotland in the pub. Amazing tartan army. So much fun and NO TROUBLE and no dickheads
I am english but absolutely loved it.

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 17/06/2026 23:58

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

Wow, that would be news to my English husband from his Scottish wife

Palsywalsy · 17/06/2026 23:51

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

Not true. I’ve literally just said I’d be happy for England to win, there are loud nasty people on both sides. I also think the Scottish can joke in a way that doesn’t quite land with some English people ( and maybe vice versa). Anyway, I’m not into HATE so I’m off. Enjoy the rest of the Cup.