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AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.

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fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

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Happyjoe · 16/06/2026 22:23

I live near 3 pubs. Really near. I have never liked football, and now I absolutely hate it because there's nothing to like about 100 drunken morons, (thinking they're highly original and witty), on the street singing 'It's coming home' over and over again, not knowing any more of the lyrics.

Oh, that and the glass smashing, the knock down ginger by 50 something year old blokes and them urinating in the street or against my door.

With the later opening times, I hope, truly hope England and Scotland are knocked out fast! Yeah, I know. I am a miserable sod!!

GrievanceList · 16/06/2026 22:18

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 21:41

I understand your sentiments...but do watch the video of Scotland fans in 1977 at Wembley. The media has painted a rosey picture of these lovely Scottish people in their wee kilts and hats... whilst churning out the view that the English are like the hordes of Atilla the Hun. Whilst the huge majority of Scotland fans are well behaved, I have personal experience of the opposite.

Seriously! Almost 50 years ago and this is the best you can do. Talk about bearing grudges. 🤣

SaySomethingMan · 16/06/2026 22:16

Yeah that’s never gonna happen. Not in a million years. And I say this as someone who loves Scotland and wouldn’t mind if they did better than England. But to outright win it. Ha!

Secretseverywhere · 16/06/2026 22:13

I’m Scottish and have rooted for England since the last time we made it, so it’s nice there is cross border support.

I’ve quite enjoyed seeing clips of the tartan army abroad, it’s been really positive. We have a couple of tough teams ahead so would be impressed if make it out of group stages though.

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 22:10

The crossposting there was brutal 🤣🤣

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 22:08

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:07

Um. You said you wanted Scotland to win.
I am still waiting for a single Scottish person to say they want England to win……
I might have a long wait.

You missed it. See above.

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countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:07

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:57

Cause I can't afford to go to America.

I'm still supporting them, it's not like I'm going to be upset if they don't progress, was just saying it was nice seeing the vids of how happy the Scots were.

Um. You said you wanted Scotland to win.
I am still waiting for a single Scottish person to say they want England to win……
I might have a long wait.

SpottyAlpaca · 16/06/2026 22:06

YANBU. Support who you want to.

I’m the opposite way round. Scottish born & bred. I would love to be proud of my country but I can’t be because I absolutely detest the embarrassingly small-minded, chippy ‘Anyone But England’ mentality of so many Scottish people. Which is who I’m supporting England. A proud nation which doesn’t have a pathetic inferiority complex. At least we might win a couple of games…

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 22:05

Wow @countrylife00i sincerely hope that’s the case. How awful.

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:04

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 21:59

My partner has never had an anti-English sentiment expressed to him since moving here. The only rude people he’s met were from Surrey, and who told him he had seriously downgraded by moving here. So that was nice.

I guess I am the opposite. I was a nursing sister and no one spoke to me for weeks. They made it clear they didn’t want an English nurse on their ward, let alone managing them. However it was the 90s, so things might have improved.

DidntLikeTheEnding · 16/06/2026 22:03

Aw thanks, but we really really won't! You're very welcome in the Tartan Army though!

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 22:02

Oh mate 🤣 @KnickerlessFlannel

We’re absolutely shite but fine with it.

KnickerlessFlannel · 16/06/2026 22:00

Yes, i agree. Would be great for Scotland to win (I have them in the sweepstake!!)

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 21:59

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 21:51

Have you lived there, as an English person, during a World Cup?

My partner has never had an anti-English sentiment expressed to him since moving here. The only rude people he’s met were from Surrey, and who told him he had seriously downgraded by moving here. So that was nice.

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:59

I think this thread is being taken a bit more seriously than I meant it to!

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FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 21:57

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 21:41

I understand your sentiments...but do watch the video of Scotland fans in 1977 at Wembley. The media has painted a rosey picture of these lovely Scottish people in their wee kilts and hats... whilst churning out the view that the English are like the hordes of Atilla the Hun. Whilst the huge majority of Scotland fans are well behaved, I have personal experience of the opposite.

Yes, half a century ago some men were dicks 🤣

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/06/2026 21:57

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 21:41

I understand your sentiments...but do watch the video of Scotland fans in 1977 at Wembley. The media has painted a rosey picture of these lovely Scottish people in their wee kilts and hats... whilst churning out the view that the English are like the hordes of Atilla the Hun. Whilst the huge majority of Scotland fans are well behaved, I have personal experience of the opposite.

You really don’t think anything might have changed in 50 years?

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:57

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 21:54

Why don’t you do England proud then?

Cause I can't afford to go to America.

I'm still supporting them, it's not like I'm going to be upset if they don't progress, was just saying it was nice seeing the vids of how happy the Scots were.

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miniaturepixieonacid · 16/06/2026 21:56

YANBU to support whoever you like but personally, I don't understand not supporting, in order: 1) the country you identify as being from, 2) the country you live in abd 3) the country you feel a connection with for any reason.

Seems like Scotland is a 3) for you. But if that criteria makes it a 1) for you then of course YANBU. They're your feelings.

JollyGreenSleeves · 16/06/2026 21:55

Not just highly unlikely to win- not a chance of winning, no offence but it’s nice to see happy fans. England, at least, have a chance- you can always support both.

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:54

FernFaery · 16/06/2026 21:50

No but don’t kid yourself you’d get the same in reverse.

Yeah i wasn't.

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countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 21:54

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:49

To be clear this I know they are highly unlikely to win, and nowhere did I say that all the fans are well behaved, it would just be nice to see the ones that are so happy, from everything I've read so far, which obviously isn't everything, they're doing Scotland proud.

Why don’t you do England proud then?

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 21:51

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:50

That dosent mean I have to be like that does it.

Have you lived there, as an English person, during a World Cup?

FernFaery · 16/06/2026 21:50

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:50

That dosent mean I have to be like that does it.

No but don’t kid yourself you’d get the same in reverse.

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:50

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 21:49

Let’s hear how many Scots want England to win?
I think you know the answer.
We were living in Scotland when they last got in the World Cup and my daughter was friendly with one of the players sons, at nursery. All those Scottish Mums tried so hard to befriend the Mother, but the wee lad made a bee line for the only English child in the nursery!

That dosent mean I have to be like that does it.

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