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AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.

383 replies

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

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liveforsummer · 16/06/2026 23:26

Good god I hope not. I work in a pub on my days off from my full time job because the cost of living means I can’t afford the luxury of a day off - Saturday night/Sunday morning shift was horrendous and my feet still hurt now - sooner we are out the better (entirely selfishly lol)

Cosimarocks · 16/06/2026 23:17

Not at all. I’m English and as far back as I can remember I’ve wanted any team BUT England to win. But then I loathe football.

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 23:16

My dad has a wee bit of Wembley grass. But an England fan punched his brother in the face as they walked towards the stadium so I think he considers it a fair trade.

ArtfulTaupeGoose · 16/06/2026 23:14

I'm English and live just on the England side of the border. I work in Scotland....
The ABE drives me mad! I hope Scotland do well, but not as well as England!!

Howmanycatsistoomany · 16/06/2026 23:13

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/06/2026 21:57

You really don’t think anything might have changed in 50 years?

Nah. I reckon if Scotland beat England at Wembley tomorrow the fans would invade the pitch and take bits of it home. That's as bad as it got at Wembley in 1977. They stole bits of grass. 😂

Catsandcheese · 16/06/2026 23:10

Why does it matter to English people whether Scottish people want them to win? That seems weird. I’m French I live in Scotland and I have a fondness for the tartan army but I’d be much happier for France to win. Allez les bleus, ole ole ole

TheChosenTwo · 16/06/2026 23:07

Ah op I’m with you!
I don’t watch football, not a supporter of England (I mean I’m not anti them by any means but I just don’t care) and I’ve seen some lovely videos shared of the Scottish fans, I’m easily pleased 😂
Just nice to see people feeling proud of their country. I don’t feel especially proud of mine at the moment.

GrievanceList · 16/06/2026 23:07

GrievanceList · 16/06/2026 22:18

Seriously! Almost 50 years ago and this is the best you can do. Talk about bearing grudges. 🤣

I don't really get your point. Are you complaining about them dancing with an Argentinian fan

BitOutOfPractice · 16/06/2026 23:05

Ok here it is from me. I love football. I’m also far more interested in my league team than England. So that’s my stance.

Im half Scottish but I was born in England, I live in England and I support England. I’m so so tired of the decades of ABE “banter” that I have totally gone off the “support the home nation” rhetoric I was brought up on and don’t care any more about Scotland than I do about Azerbaijan or Curaçao. No matter how jolly their fans are.

KnittyKnotty · 16/06/2026 23:02

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:07

Um. You said you wanted Scotland to win.
I am still waiting for a single Scottish person to say they want England to win……
I might have a long wait.

👋 I would be pleased for them. The 'anyone except England' thing is usually said in jest where I live.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/06/2026 23:01

KnittyKnotty · 16/06/2026 22:56

I think the difference is Scotland have won one match, probably won't win anymore but that one win has given a whole nation enough euphoria to last a lifetime.

England could win every match except the final one and it will be like the world has ended. All the players will be slagged off in the media, the manager will be hung drawn and quartered, nasty memes will appear all over SM, if any non-white player misses a penalty the racists will be all over it and the fans will probably go on a riot vandalising and wrecking the place.

If I was interested in football, I would get behind Scotland.

Tell is you’re not interested in football without telling us you’re not interested in football. You know England did get tho the final last time right? And the world didn’t end. And England women won the euros twice. Which was also rather agreeable. I think if you actually knew any real football fans you might feel differently.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/06/2026 22:59

Happyjoe · 16/06/2026 22:23

I live near 3 pubs. Really near. I have never liked football, and now I absolutely hate it because there's nothing to like about 100 drunken morons, (thinking they're highly original and witty), on the street singing 'It's coming home' over and over again, not knowing any more of the lyrics.

Oh, that and the glass smashing, the knock down ginger by 50 something year old blokes and them urinating in the street or against my door.

With the later opening times, I hope, truly hope England and Scotland are knocked out fast! Yeah, I know. I am a miserable sod!!

Edited

I live near about 20 pubs in a city centre. None of that here either.

Catsandcheese · 16/06/2026 22:57

RichPetuniaAgain · 16/06/2026 22:53

Actually, it’s not rubbish. It’s reality.

Where do you live 😂

KnittyKnotty · 16/06/2026 22:56

I think the difference is Scotland have won one match, probably won't win anymore but that one win has given a whole nation enough euphoria to last a lifetime.

England could win every match except the final one and it will be like the world has ended. All the players will be slagged off in the media, the manager will be hung drawn and quartered, nasty memes will appear all over SM, if any non-white player misses a penalty the racists will be all over it and the fans will probably go on a riot vandalising and wrecking the place.

If I was interested in football, I would get behind Scotland.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/06/2026 22:55

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

If you really really want decades of disappointment of the very highest level, then by all means support Scotland. The disappointment will not disappoint.

dontforgetme · 16/06/2026 22:55

England fan here but also massive Villa, would love Scotland to go far for our John McGinn! Fucking legend

RichPetuniaAgain · 16/06/2026 22:53

Actually, it’s not rubbish. It’s reality.

Catsandcheese · 16/06/2026 22:48

RichPetuniaAgain · 16/06/2026 22:24

Hey, I’m Scottish and always back England in their tournaments because at least they get there 🤣. I think there is a false impression of Scotland as the reality is it’s fast becoming Nedland, which is a huge worry 😢

What rubbish.

Catsandcheese · 16/06/2026 22:47

I think the tartan army are pretty amazing. They raise money for charities local to where they visit - £10k to one children’s charity in Boston and others.
Scotland will be very unlikely to move from the group stage but their support knows that and is still happy to follow. the social media from Boston is amazing. Everyone is having a great time it seems.

Jamino · 16/06/2026 22:46

Support whoever you fancy. It’s not that deep.

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 22:42

GrievanceList · 16/06/2026 22:18

Seriously! Almost 50 years ago and this is the best you can do. Talk about bearing grudges. 🤣

And did you see the video of the Scots dancing with the Argentina fan?

SnowFrogJelly · 16/06/2026 22:27

Scotland ain’t gonna win

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:27

Happyjoe · 16/06/2026 22:23

I live near 3 pubs. Really near. I have never liked football, and now I absolutely hate it because there's nothing to like about 100 drunken morons, (thinking they're highly original and witty), on the street singing 'It's coming home' over and over again, not knowing any more of the lyrics.

Oh, that and the glass smashing, the knock down ginger by 50 something year old blokes and them urinating in the street or against my door.

With the later opening times, I hope, truly hope England and Scotland are knocked out fast! Yeah, I know. I am a miserable sod!!

Edited

Poor you. None of that where I live.

RichPetuniaAgain · 16/06/2026 22:24

Hey, I’m Scottish and always back England in their tournaments because at least they get there 🤣. I think there is a false impression of Scotland as the reality is it’s fast becoming Nedland, which is a huge worry 😢

SusanChurchouse · 16/06/2026 22:24

Wanting Scotland to win is a perfectly reasonable thing as from a narrative POV it would be incredible. I think wanting any small team to triumph over the favourites is a normal natural instinct in sport. It’s not going to happen, obviously.

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