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AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.

383 replies

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

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Samewrinklesnewname · 17/06/2026 05:17

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 04:49

Have you ever been to a Celtic / Rangers match?

Sorry but please do go and then say Scottish football fans are well behaved.

The old firm thugs are a world away from the tartan army-they’re an embarrassment to humankind, never mind football

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 04:56

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 16/06/2026 23:58

Of course you're not going to find many Scots wanting England to win. Do you know nothing about football?

England and Scotland have one of the oldest and most traditional rivalries in football.

If Scotland were regularly competing at England's level in major tournaments, plenty of England fans would be cheering for their elimination too. The idea that England fans support Scotland is a myth. When people say it, it's either out of pity, because Scotland rarely gets far in these tournaments, or simply to gaslight.

But Scotland don’t care. They are just happy to be in the game this time, and yes once out will happily support anyone but their rivals, just to wind England up.

The oddest tithing about it is why on earth does England care and take it so personally 🤷🏻‍♀️ Football rivalries aren't always logical, but that's part of what makes them rivalries.

This post was based on Op saying she wanted Scotland to win.
Of course most English people want England to win. And because we are accustomed to getting in tournaments all the time, it would be extremely rare for anyone to even mention Scotland.

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 04:51

ChocoChocoLatte · 17/06/2026 00:11

@countrylife00nope. Happy resident here - doesn’t suit everyone but maybe that’s for the best 😂

Yes. We went off to the U.S. after Aberdeen. A breath of fresh air.

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 04:49

Striveforcompetence · 17/06/2026 00:11

What? Tennis, cycling, golf, judo… we do well at plenty of sports. And our fans don’t act like total louts.

Have you ever been to a Celtic / Rangers match?

Sorry but please do go and then say Scottish football fans are well behaved.

Anarchy99 · 17/06/2026 02:06

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:49

To be clear this I know they are highly unlikely to win, and nowhere did I say that all the fans are well behaved, it would just be nice to see the ones that are so happy, from everything I've read so far, which obviously isn't everything, they're doing Scotland proud.

Let’s see if the same is true by the end of the competition

Happyjoe · 17/06/2026 01:36

BitOutOfPractice · 16/06/2026 22:59

I live near about 20 pubs in a city centre. None of that here either.

Show off! Grins.
I am opposite one, it's about 7 meters away. One down the road, about 30 meters and one to my left, about 10 meters.

Happyjoe · 17/06/2026 01:32

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:27

Poor you. None of that where I live.

Luckily we've bought a do upper house, so by the time the Euro's come around be far away! I may even go back to hoping someone in the UK does well... :-)

celticnations · 17/06/2026 01:03

@fruitandbarley Here's hoping, hen!

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Ezzee · 17/06/2026 00:57

Here in the USA atm,really not liking the Scottish fans here! Loud, rude and really, really drunk, swearing and being dicks, letting the kids run amok because the football is on, about 15/20 families.. So not the whole of Scotland but letting down their country!

dizzydizzydizzy · 17/06/2026 00:55

YABU. It is against the law

NotInvolved · 17/06/2026 00:44

I was born and brought up in England but have a mixed Scottish and Northern Irish background. I consider myself British. I'm married to someone who is half Welsh, half Spanish. This conveniently allows for strategic selection of who to support in a number of sports!😂
I'm supporting Scotland currently. My adult children live in Scotland and have Scottish partners so it's easier to all be on the same side. I would genuinely like to see them do well, but I have alternative options for later in the tournament. I have to say I thought Spain were going to be my best bet but I'm not so sure now! I won't be losing much sleep though. It's only a game after all.

ThatJadeLion · 17/06/2026 00:17

English and 100% supporting England. Personally I think YABU but it's a free world, you can support who you like. English and proud here. But no doubt saying this will offend someone.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 17/06/2026 00:16

And Sir Chris Hoy of course.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 17/06/2026 00:14

Livelovebehappy · 16/06/2026 23:47

England all the way for me. But I do feel sorry for Scotland. They just never seem to be successful at any sport. It must be frustrating for them….

I think Andy Murray, Eilish McColgan and Duncan Scott would like a word ….. and that’s just quickly off the top of my head.

Striveforcompetence · 17/06/2026 00:11

Livelovebehappy · 16/06/2026 23:47

England all the way for me. But I do feel sorry for Scotland. They just never seem to be successful at any sport. It must be frustrating for them….

What? Tennis, cycling, golf, judo… we do well at plenty of sports. And our fans don’t act like total louts.

ChocoChocoLatte · 17/06/2026 00:11

@countrylife00nope. Happy resident here - doesn’t suit everyone but maybe that’s for the best 😂

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 17/06/2026 00:07

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 16/06/2026 22:10

The crossposting there was brutal 🤣🤣

GrinGrinGrin

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 17/06/2026 00:07

SpottyAlpaca · 16/06/2026 22:06

YANBU. Support who you want to.

I’m the opposite way round. Scottish born & bred. I would love to be proud of my country but I can’t be because I absolutely detest the embarrassingly small-minded, chippy ‘Anyone But England’ mentality of so many Scottish people. Which is who I’m supporting England. A proud nation which doesn’t have a pathetic inferiority complex. At least we might win a couple of games…

Are you the same Alpaca poster who goes on and on about the SNP at any chance you get.

summeronthehorizon · 17/06/2026 00:05

Ah the Scottish fans look like they are having the best time over in Boston. In any big group there will always be arse holes but on the whole I imagine it’s all good fun.

I am Scottish and first and foremost, Scotland have my backing. But I also want England to win if Scotland don’t. Im in the minority - but I’m guessing the OP is in the minority too! Everyone knows about Scotland v England rivalry!

Also 1966 ruined it for England. They sickened everyone by how much they went on about it and still go on about it.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 17/06/2026 00:02

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 21:41

I understand your sentiments...but do watch the video of Scotland fans in 1977 at Wembley. The media has painted a rosey picture of these lovely Scottish people in their wee kilts and hats... whilst churning out the view that the English are like the hordes of Atilla the Hun. Whilst the huge majority of Scotland fans are well behaved, I have personal experience of the opposite.

Almost 50 years ago? Is that the best you can do ConfusedGrin

Bawbagg · 16/06/2026 23:58

NO SCOTLAND NO PARTY

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 16/06/2026 23:58

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 21:49

Let’s hear how many Scots want England to win?
I think you know the answer.
We were living in Scotland when they last got in the World Cup and my daughter was friendly with one of the players sons, at nursery. All those Scottish Mums tried so hard to befriend the Mother, but the wee lad made a bee line for the only English child in the nursery!

Of course you're not going to find many Scots wanting England to win. Do you know nothing about football?

England and Scotland have one of the oldest and most traditional rivalries in football.

If Scotland were regularly competing at England's level in major tournaments, plenty of England fans would be cheering for their elimination too. The idea that England fans support Scotland is a myth. When people say it, it's either out of pity, because Scotland rarely gets far in these tournaments, or simply to gaslight.

But Scotland don’t care. They are just happy to be in the game this time, and yes once out will happily support anyone but their rivals, just to wind England up.

The oddest tithing about it is why on earth does England care and take it so personally 🤷🏻‍♀️ Football rivalries aren't always logical, but that's part of what makes them rivalries.

Bawbagg · 16/06/2026 23:56

SCOTT MCTOMINAY I LOVE HIM TILL MY HEART ACHES

Livelovebehappy · 16/06/2026 23:47

England all the way for me. But I do feel sorry for Scotland. They just never seem to be successful at any sport. It must be frustrating for them….

onmylastnerveseriously · 16/06/2026 23:36

The World Cup is next year OP! 😂

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