George’s education costs

No one ever mentions the fortune he inherited from his mother and the Queen.
it proves how clueless and ignorant most people are. That money is his to spend on what he likes.

Are you really that naive?
William lost his mother as a child. He loved his time at Eton, where they wrapped their arms around him and protected him.
William inherited millions off his Mother and if he wants to spend some of that on his own son’s education, good for him.
if I had inherited millions I would have done the same.

I think the acquisitions should have been properly scrutinised both then and now.

If there's any proven impropriety, why not?

We’re all paying for it already. And the rest of the grifting, inbred Windsor/Saxe-Coburg clan.

Their 'private wealth' derives from funds diverted from the public purse

@CathyorClaire do you think they should have all their wealth confiscated?

They should not be entitled to have luxury central London homes. These could be used for staff, diplomats and other civil servants that make a contribution.

I agree entirely and I'd wager any and all of the above would pass the security cordon/vetting procedures cited as an apparent issue without incident.

Not going to change under 'royal with a small 'r' 'William either despite the puff he's desperately putting out.

All the indications are he intends to maintain/increase his income while downsizing even the minimal amount of 'work' he does now.

And when it come to 'work' let's bear in mind we have to regard it as quite a loose term given the entire lot put in the equivalent of six months full time between them.

But don’t you understand that they have private wealth?

Their 'private wealth' derives from funds diverted from the public purse. Decades worth of tax breaks, fraudulent yet successful bleating for an increased Civil List enabling the purchase of Sandringham and Balmoral, the pocketing of profits from aggressively managed commercial property empires they don't own (the nation does) and now we discover double dipping the public purse charging the government and their own armed forces among others for use of the land.

No wonder they hide behind their unwarranted exemption from FOI requests and have their wills sealed.

Thanks for the tip re booing

No worries. The boys will enjoy watching a woman wandering around the streets of Eton shouting ‘booooooooo’

@38thparallel wants you to get done for a public order offence @bafta16

You will have to continue to moo on MN instead.

All of them. I think it's a ridiculous system. Look at the fools we have in government who come from these places.

Thanks for the tip re booing.

Not the first time! Vestibular migraines 😢 the brain fog, confusion & dizziness are something else…,

I am happy to discuss the parallels between Alice in Wonderland and Metamorphosis.
Go on then @Peacewillcome - what have you got to say on the matter that beats the standard google chatbot.

Thanks for explaining - I was confused. So: I favour reform as a first step .

There is another thing that is often repeated - the slimmed down monarchy.

It doesn't really happen though. The tax payer still pays for the upkeep of all the extra royals, not just the working ones, in the Royal palaces. They should not be entitled to have luxury central London homes. These could be used for staff, diplomats and other civil servants that make a contribution.

As Norman Baker has written, Charles doesn't really slim it down he just puts fewer members of the family on the balcony.

@Peacewillcome

Thank you! Goodness - of course it was reform with a small r.

@Recklessismymiddlename you got the wrong end of the stick lol

i think you have the wrong end of the stick. The comment by @Ukisgaslit made means educate yourself on the matter in hand. No need to pull out your qualifications. I think they are very common on Mumsnet, many of us have them!

@Ukisgaslit this thread is most Kafkaesque! I think Alice may turn up soon with a flamingo tucked under her arm.

* - it’s not a vote winner at all. Rather the opposite. Would translate to making a party complete taboo for a lot of voters*.
@Araminta1003

I agree with you, I was just interested as to why the anti royals on here didn’t think it a good idea since according to them no one wants the royal family.

@Ukisgaslit wrote ‘reform’ with a small
r and didn’t mean the party ‘Reform’

@Ukisgaslit - that was rather rude. I am pretty well educated with a Cambridge degree and a postgrad too so I don’t think that is the issue. I am just not that interested in the royal family. Frankly, I find all those obsessed (whether positively or negatively) rather strange. Like I said there are so many more urgent issues to get on with. And as far as I can tell they are moving with the times. Charles also quite eco conscious etc whatever changes are made have to be in consultation with them directly. They aren’t slaves to the system and have free will too. They could just move country and take their assets like everyone else.

@38thparallel - it’s not a vote winner at all. Rather the opposite. Would translate to making a party complete taboo for a lot of voters.

God no not reform. Farage. No. Traitor. Him
and Johnson. I knew Farage when I was younger. Nige. No thanks. And I won’t be commenting further. Just no. He’s still friends with people I knew. He hasn’t changed. Awful man.

Why doesn’t the Labour Party put removal of the Royal Family in their 2029 manifesto?
Surely if they are so unpopular it would be a vote winner.

@Recklessismymiddlename
@38thparallel

Nothing wrong with a referendum and nothing wrong with adding other non binding questions to a ballot paper . Lots of countries do this as a way of trying to improve the democratic voice

I don’t favour a referendum at the moment .
I favour reform as a first step .

Start with removing kings consent - that is a medieval nonsense and more importantly it is a slap in the face to our so called democracy.

Start with placing the Windsors under the law - all law - including tax law ( at the moment they can pick and choose which bits they’ll recognise )

Start with proper open scrutiny of their income streams from the tax payer . Detailed accounts - not the current situation where the Windsors decide what to declare and it is then rubber stamped ( this does not apply to the crown estate as far as I know as despite the deliberately confusing name is fully managed by an independent body )

Reveal the true costs including security .

Demographics will take care of the rest. Their real remaining support is women 65+
It’s literally dying off .

Every election cycle have the question on the ballot paper

Why just that question on the ballot paper? There are lots of other things people have strong opinions about.
Also, as far as I know on ballot papers in UK general elections the only question is put a cross by the politician of your choice
What’s wrong with a referendum?

@Ukisgaslit i don’t mind being asked, but I want a proper viable alternative. Not just off with their heads.

Remember Johnson’s face when Leave won the Brexit Referendum? That’s because they never expected it, and there was never a plan. And what a cock up that’s been. I don’t want that again for the U.K.

@Araminta1003

1. I didn’t use the term ‘referendum’. I said we have never been asked. Let us be asked. Non binding . Every election cycle have the question on the ballot paper . I do not believe for a moment that the result would be the landslide you think. They were doing such surveys 100 years ago in the rest of Europe .
2. I’ve been on mumsnet long enough not to be shocked by much . But your crass dismissal of the Windsors cover up of decades of links to an international sex trafficker is deeply offensive . ‘Dodgy uncle’ . Epstein was first convicted of soliciting a minor in 2008. Educate yourself . Also Mountbatten and his abuse of children in care - are you aware of that ? Or is he just another ‘dodgy uncle’ to add to the Windsor collection. Sickening