AIBU - Refusing to hand over documentation?

Just say 'per the court order- nope. Get a copy from the barrister'
Why is the useless person messaging you about such minor stuff? Shut them down.

Is the child male or female?

Is the culture of the father one where questions might be asked about where the child might be taken for a "holiday"?

Give the teenager a photocopy of their passport? If they can't keep that safe I wouldn't want them to have the original document. Or take a photo of it and send it to them.

Most places will only accept a driving licence or passport, unfortunately.

@FunnyBeaker Driving licence applications are online so you just need your DC with you and do it together. No need to hand the passport over if they can't be trusted not to lose it.

That’s a BS reason to get hands on passport. Cinema staff do not ask for ID for films and haven’t done for years, since people can just order tickets online.

You can get them a citizen ID we had to get one for my son to for his season ticket as he looks older and keeps getting pulled and I didn’t want him taking his PP the match with him. Think it was £30

Give the teen a photocopy which will work and tell them they’re responsible for it.

Ask your child what his peers use for ID. In our area there's a specific card you can apply for where the school validates the date of birth, for example. It would be better to turn this into a "my child needs ID" problem rather than a disagreement between parents. I would imagine at 16, your child is quite keen to have recognised ID.

(I agree that carrying a passport around is a bad idea).

I noticed there was no mention of DS actually wanting the passport himself OP. But in any case, he can apply for an alternative form of ID and do the work for that himself.

Your ex cannot be trusted not to lose the original passport, and replacements are hassle to get so do not let it out of your sight,I suspect he wants it to possibly take child out the country,give him 1 more copy,tell him that is the last as he's irresponsible, but also send a pic to wats app. End of no more discussion about it

Why should op do this?

Other parent is an adult, they want the id for the child, they can order it.

@FunnyBeaker the only way to do it is other parent pays you the replacement amount while the passport is in her/his possession and is only allowed to have it up to 3 months (or whatever the replacement time is) before a booked holiday. That way if you need to get a new one because s/he has lost it you will be ok.

Why don’t you just apply for the child’s provisional driving licence if you don’t want to hand the passport over?

Or the OP or child themselves can get the recognised ID card via this https://www.postoffice.co.uk/identity/pass-card
It's recognised by cinema, polling stations etc only costs £15

Take a picture of passport and text it to other parent won't get lost then will it !!

If they only need it for age verification then a citizen card is the answer. https://www.citizencard.com/apply-for-a-uk-id-card-online

Child keeps it in their wallet. Problem solved.

i wouldn’t hand over a passport either. They are an expensive ballache to replace.

If the child and/or other parent have repeatedly lost certified copies then FGS don't let them wander around with the actual passport. Either they both (or the child) is careless and/or the other parent is trying to control "ownership" of the passport. If the latter is true I would be concerned about it not being returned for holidays you have booked.

Provisional driving licence is the answer. That's what all the late teen kids round here use for day to day ID. They all have one even if they've no intention or opportunity for driving lessons! Easy to apply for and passport can stsy safely in your filing cabinet or wherever you keep it.

Just say no?

My 18yo got turned away from the cinema last week because I told him he’d be fine and shouldn’t bring out a passport. Definitely get them another form of Id and talk to them re drivers licence, this is too much drama for a teenager, but obviously if you’re worried about them leaving the country or whatever I can see why

There are also multiple other ID cards that can be used just to prove age for things like this - much cheaper than a passport or provisional license and less of a worry if lost. Just check what the cinema etc. will accept. They'll also be able to get a student ID from college if moving on in September which lots of places will accept.

Tell OP to go back to court or their barrister. Do not give passport

Help teen get their provisional driving licence.

RTFT

The driving licence you apply for on line, just sit down with your DC and the passport apply for the driving licence. I’d is sorted then for anything else problem solved in about 5mins.

To add, I wouldn't be handing the passport to the other parent. There's a court order in place for a reason plus their motives are untrustworthy and they dont seem very responsible. (If they are likely to put pressure on the 16yo, I wouldn't give it to the 16yo either, contrary to my other post.)