AIBU - Refusing to hand over documentation?

I don't know why but the same here, we are in a city. The door staff are really strict on it, I think maybe there is something about being able to check a driving license number on something that would say if it is legit. There is no way to do that with a Citizen card.

I didn't want mine carrying a passport out with them. This is what I had to do as I had a baby face and even at 23 would get asked for ID on the door. No photo ID driving license back then.

DD found that clubs and anywhere that sells alcohol won't accept anything other than driving licence or passport. Citizen cards are a waste of money apparently.

They do. I was at the cinema last week and witnessed people getting asked for ID as it was an 18 film

Just get your child to photograph their own passport and keep the photo on their phone. Thats what my children do for the cinema.

You don't go to get a provisional (or other) licence - you apply online.

Don't even entertain them, just tell them to contact the barrister again. They cannot have the passport and that's the end of the matter. The 16 year old is old enough to apply for a provisional licence themselves or some other form of ID if they require it. No parent needs to be involved. I would also be concerned that they want the passport to either "lose" it and therefore cause problems for your holiday plans, or they wish to take their child abroad for nefarious reasons.

For the cinema a phone photo of the passport page is accepted. We’ve had to do this for dc. They don’t expect you to bring your passport with you.

Get the teen to apply for a provisional driving licence. Let teen have a photo of their passport on their phone.

Ignore the ex.

I would be happy to provide a copy or help them obtain a wide variety of other id forms which would be acceptable to get a child into a cinema. Yoti for example. I would be very reluctant to hand over the passport as a) it might get lost b) they might be planning to use the passport for something else entirely.

Abide by the care order. It is made by the Court. Notify your solicitor of this request.

Because in my opinion sometimes choosing the 5 minute option to sort a situation is more beneficial for your own sake than months of endless back and forth about a nothing topic like going to the cinema in the name of being right.

My son needs ID for going to concerts without an adult (age 16). I didn't want him taking his passport as we have a holiday coming up and it would be a nightmare if it was lost. We applied for a provisional driving license on the Friday and it arrived on the Tuesday. We did need to use passport info on the application.

We would be applying for his provisional in 10 months anyway....so we haven't paid for anything we wouldn't be paying for in 10 months anyway

Provisional driving license, they will use the photo off the passport so very easy to apply online. This is exactly what we did for Ds.

The driving license is the only ID a lot of clubs will accept where I live, they won't take a citizen card. The provisional license lasts 10 years and at some point hopefully they will be learning to drive so two birds, one stone.

Not a tactic seems cinemas are going hard lately my son got asked for Id at odeon last week as pure luck would have it I actually had his passport in my car because he had been away just a few days previously and chucked it into the glove box

Ahh ok. Our local cinema is self service so you usually buy online or on the terminals there with no staff involvement. The staff on the screens entry point (teenagers themselves in our one) just zap you in and barely look up 😂

You can just get the Yoti app for this. I think most of the cinemas accept this as a form of ID.

Do not give them the passport, the intention will be to "lose" it to scupper your holiday plans. Spiteful but that is how some folk are.

Agreed.

Surely there are many other forms of ID for cinema? A travel card? A student card? Or just a copy of the passport on his phone?

You are being vague but I assume his other parent has a history of manipulation and abuse which is why you are resistant? I think you should remain the holder of the passport but just ensure yoru child has some other way to prove his age. It doesn't need to be this complicated.

Re drivers licence, if passport details are required, again, a photo of the passport would provide all relevant details and, if necessary, can be uploaded to any website. The only time you need the physical passport is when renewing it (or, obviously, travelling).

Take a photo on their phone-that’s what i do

the other parent just needs to pay for a Citizen card, I got DD one when she was 15 so she could go to the cinema.

They do not need their passport.

Our local cinema has a huge sign in the window about ID. My younger DC was denied entry to a 15 a few weeks ago at a different cinema after buying a ticket online (they are a young looking 14 and I did warn them!)
So cinemas definitely do ask for ID. But as I said above, get another official one such as a PASS card.

Cinema is fine with a photo of the passport rather than original. We have done this a couple of times in recent months for just turned 15 year old without issue. No way I'd let my teenager take something as important as a passport to the cinema. Send OP a photo of the passport.

Be polite but Insist that other parent apply for alternative ID. You are not their secretary. You take care of the ID you hold. They take care of the ID they hold. Do not enable their incompetence further or you will always be the default administrator.

I would not even send another photo via any other plaform / copy. Let them see you are standing by your word.

No! is a complete sentence.

No need to hand over the passport. I got my DC one of these as they are starting to go to gigs etc alone where you need to be 16+

https://www.postoffice.co.uk/identity/pass-card