Help me pack ten days in ryan air under Seat

Just did one month in France with under seat backpack. Wearing: trousers, long sleeved t-shirt, hoodie, denim jacket, trainers. In bag: underwear, swimsuit, kaftan, t-shirt, travel skirt, cotton dress, sandals, scarf, sunhat, rain poncho. washing at end of each week. phone, kindle, sunglasses, make-up bag, toothbrush, phone charger. Can't see the problem - pack for one week and repeat outfits!

But you can’t go out for the day as your one dress and pair of knickers are hanging up to dry 😂. Unless you’re in a naturist resort…

How does underseat packing work for men? Obviously boxer shorts are bigger than women’s pants…. I don’t want to imagine seven days of posing pouches… or perhaps like in films where men just put on their trousers after a night of passion; no hopping about struggling with socks and pants…

Don't take toiletries unless there is something you must have, get minis when at the destination.

Layers.

Honestly for 10 days I think I would take the extra hand luggage and cut the worry/have space to bring back something/not damage favourite clothes trying to compress them - managed to get a charger make holes in a favourite top this way.

I don't get what's so hard about doing ax wash when you're self catering.

Get up
Put wash on
Have breakfast and get ready
Sit on balcony with coffee
Hang up washing
Go out for the day
Come back and it's dry.
Why is that such a chore?

A lot of posters sound like they're not very used to flights or packing.

An underseat bag is fine for a 4 days or so if you pack smartly and don't have dc etc to worry about. Great to not have to wheel a case about the airport imo. And when I do take a cabin bag for longer trips (never take a hold bag unless I want to buy certain things) it feels like loads of room!

If you stay somewhere with a washing machine then even longer is doable with an underseat, surely. Washing and pegging out some clothes takes no time and unless you refuse to spend a second of your trip not relaxing I fail to see the issue. Not everyone goes away to waft around a resort in a series of outfits. Lovely if you want to, of course, but you can be low maintenance without being dirty.

Haven't RTFT so not sure if anyone has shared this but it feels like it could be up your street!
holidayexpert.com/how-i-packed-for-a-3-day-holiday-in-a-tiny-uniqlo-sling-bag/

The very first bit of this video might be an idea for you 😂
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2167586037358601

The poster is probably referring to Primark’s cases with detachable wheels that are designed to fit under the seat. I have one (from another manufacturer). It measures 40x30x20 with the wheels removed so fits perfectly into the Ryanair sizer. I can fit everything in it I need to travel from one home to another. I’d struggle on a holiday where I needed to carry everything I needed with me, but kudos to those who can manage it, I wish I was that economical a packer!

What is a “coverup”? A cardigan?

DP and I had the misfortune to go on holiday with one of them a few years ago.

We were part of a group of friends sharing an apartment and while we were in no way spendthrifts, it was clear there was a huge gap in expectations about what we'd do on holiday, eating out etc. For clarity, most Mumsnetters would consider our holiday basic and parsimous, but he was another level down.

He'd trawl round multiple bureau de change looking for better exchange rates that would have got him an extra euro, buy the cheapest food in the supermarket (sin queso is still an in joke for the cheapest available cheese slices, that can't legally be called cheese) and apparently didn't have any money available for the activities we'd agreed to do and we ended up paying the insurance excess and fuel on the car he wanted to hire because he just refused to pay it (a 'loan' that was never paid back).

I'm sure he was a 'won't pay' rather than a 'can't pay' because he'd willingly said he wanted to come on the holiday and take part in a couple of paid activities and his parents were far more well off than most in our social circle and despite working part time in a low paid job, he always seemed to be able to support himself and generally land on his feet - I strongly suggest he had a trust fund/parental support despite living away from home and in his 40s. I can only think that he was the type of 'traveller' referred to by @MaturingCheeseball - he definitely went 'travelling' a lot or possibly that there'd been some sort of fall out with his DPs and perhaps cut off his allowance.

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I don’t think the “I travel for six weeks with one pair of pants and pound them with my feet in the shower” people are poor at all. They sound like those tiresome cheapskate frequent travellers (and they’re always “travellers” not plain old holidaymakers) impacting normal flyers with their poor hygiene and silly packing tricks (“take spare Duty Free bag filled with clothes to dupe them!”).

I was once buttonholed in Bangkok airport by a pair of world-travelling retirees. They boasted of having one pair of drip-dry trousers each and how they were staying with friends and relatives all over the world. I can only imagine the glee of the hosts when Paul and Pat turn up, not to mention finding the trousers dripping away in the bathroom…

Buy toiletries there rather than taking with you

Coming on to a thread about how to fit items in Ryanair under seat and saying ‘I would never for Ryanair’ is a stealth boast and dull. Who cares? Fly another airline.

Christ alive there's some competitive superiority on this thread, whether about lightness of packing or the horrors of hand-washing 😂

We all have different holiday priorities and perceptions of what makes a holiday worthwhile. It feels as though a lot of people here have perhaps never had to scrimp and save money on a holiday - great for you guys, but some people genuinely do have to cut potentially cut-able costs in order to get to where they want to go. Personally I think it's a bit mean to have a go or take the piss out of them for that.

I would not call it a stealth boast. If someone chooses not to fly, or not to support Ryanair because of their charges or another reason, their choice.

So why are you on the thread?

Stealth boasts are dull AF.

I would suggest finding somewhere where you don't have to wait six days before washing.

Also make this a one-off situation and stop supporting a bully by flying with someone else in future.

We always have a washing machine at our villa.

Well the claim was it takes less than a minute, so max it’s an entire 10 seconds longer. Wow.

Its just amazing how many people walk amount us wearing dirty knickers.

The size thingy and the bag you are referring to is for the overhead locker option which isnt free - the underseat size is small rucksack or tote bag size (cant remember exactly dimensions) I fly Ryanair frequently and often see people getting charged at the airport for assuming the free underseat bag and overhead 10kg option are the same thing - they aren't!

You've been arguing on this thread for days without answering any questions yourself.

The hand washing time you are making up is getting shorter and shorter each time, down to only 45 seconds!

No one is making you do this, they are giving OP advice if she wants to go ahead with it.

Plus - the free hand soap in a hotel isn't going to cut it for hand washing. I hand wash my bras at home with Smol liquid. I have done an emergency bra wash with hand soap in a hotel with the hottest tap water and it dried really musty around the underwires, in a way it doesn't with washing liquid. I do it all the time so it wasn't my technique.

Do you wash it for 45 seconds?

Washing machine cycles at lower temperatures typically take longer because it takes more effort to break down oil, dirt and bacteria without heat.

Washing at a low temperature for mere seconds is just factually not enough to properly cleanse clothes and remove bacteria, particularly underwear of all things.

Well I do most of my washing in the machine at 30 degrees, is that grim too?