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to feel he should have told me about this health condition before we married

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RachelWardd · 15/06/2026 15:50

We met when I was 23 and he was 30.

I was swept off my feet at first meet, he was tall dark handsome romantic funny kind gentle brave .....etc.

We dated for two years and married when I was 25, my parents were strict catholic and I never lived with him back then (we're talking 20+ years ago now) before we married, just dated , never went away together really either.....stayed over at his at the time, he lived very close to his parents, but said it was cos he loved that part of the city /country growing up and all his friends were there etc so that made sense at the time. I moved in with him after we married.

Long story short. In the first two three years, I knew I had married someone with a very very low fuse (as I called at in my twenties) - prone to anger, somewhat selfish, very focused on his needs, very quick flight or fight responses to any changes in plan

Turns out one of the many reasons he was popping in every evening at his parents' for at least 10 minutes on way home was - they were (well in to his 30s) still monitoring and administering sodium valporate pills to him. I opened the packet once when his dad left it out accidentally and I had popped over.

Slowly it came out in the open that he had been diagnosed with a benign reflex form of epilepsy ( he got partial focal type seizures when taking a hot shower or hot bath and almost always or always only then) from when he was less than 10 years old. But 'DH' still said it was fully under control with medication and he had been 'episode free' since 2001 and we met in 2002 and married in 2004.

Eventually he got off the meds completely in 2008 and as far as I know has not had any more episodes just by being careful I think while in the shower or bath
I still think he should have told me - he grew up going to epilepsy clinics, top neuro consultants, thinking life would not be normal as he was still having seizures, falling in the shower leading to head injuries (multiple) , trips to hospital in the ambulance as a teen.

A big part of his life for the first 30 years - and defined his relations with his parents and siblings - and his outlook on life. At the very least he should have told me as he knows this is sometimes genetic and there is a 30pc chance yet that our teen DC could still go on to develop this and have to go through the same to find the right meds and then to learn how to self limit it.

with all the knowledge we have now online, I do think all his flight or fight dysregulation, responses to stress, conflict, self focus are linked. At least armed with this information, I could have approached our marriage with more empathy and compassion if nothing else.

AIBU for me to still feel angry now and then when I remember this lie by omission and his excuses that it wasnt relevant information to tell me.....I am 48 now, he is 55

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:58

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:54

It is the other way round.

I could and would have left if not for the empathy and the protectiveness and love I still feel because I have got the two linked causally, wrongly or rightly so.

If he had been through all those years of trying to get the right meds, seizures, accidents with head injury, stigma from social prejudice, so much gratitude for his parents monitoring him being his carer when not yet controlled seizures, taking him to all appointments, the safety he felt living right down the road from,

then OF COURSE, me coming skipping along talking about how wonderful the weather was, and how exciting the wide world was to travel and explore and my whole 'never set foot in a hospital' in my 25 years and assuming it was the same for him SO SO SUNNY persona MUST HAVE GRATED.

And that angers me too. If you had FUCKING told me what you had been through, we could have dated longer I could have grown more mature and BEEN A BETTER WIFE , if and when we did marry.

I am sorry the shouty letters werent directed at you @ScaredButUnavoidable

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:54

ScaredButUnavoidable · 16/06/2026 16:52

I was just making the point that despite him not having seizures during your marriage, or even being on medication for the huge majority of it, you still seem to want to cling to the belief (hope?) that he’s in that “very small percentage of people” rather than accept that he was just an abusive and violent man of his own free will (like the vast majority of all violent men are).

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It is the other way round.

I could and would have left if not for the empathy and the protectiveness and love I still feel because I have got the two linked causally, wrongly or rightly so.

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ScaredButUnavoidable · 16/06/2026 16:52

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:39

But if you want to tell yourself that your husband was aggressive and violent because he had epilepsy and it was all his bad wiring that caused his behaviour as opposed to it being his own free-will and his choice to treat you like that, then you do that if it makes you feel more comfortable

@ScaredButUnavoidable , I did not say that. I said that studies show that in a very small percentage of people with certain types of epilepsy, AEDs can cause aggression. And the condition itself has a higher co-morbidity with psychological illnesses IN A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE and that my instinct told me he could be in that small percentage from the fact that I know him for 20plus years !

What part of that is to make me feel more comfortable? Have you ever been hit? Its not comfortable.

I was just making the point that despite him not having seizures during your marriage, or even being on medication for the huge majority of it, you still seem to want to cling to the belief (hope?) that he’s in that “very small percentage of people” rather than accept that he was just an abusive and violent man of his own free will (like the vast majority of all violent men are).

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:48

@InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked , any thoughts on the two incidents? It is a grey area for me as I was so foolish and horrible myself in my emotional intelligence that for many many years I did fully believe I deserved to be slapped, pushed, hit. After the fact. I believed him when he said someone who did not trust was a sick person

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:44

I did go through a phase of asking for a divorce about 10 years ago, a short lived one. I did not state this as the reason , ie his lie by omission, not the illness itself. But just said it was obvious i was not what he needed. He had chosen wrong and then gone about lying to get me.

He said I was leaving with no grounds to leave and he would never let me take his kids away from him

Our youngest is now 17. Do I still need to worry about a custody battle at this point if I left? I know he would battle for the sake of it if he could, as he will be furious I am trying to take back my agency and leaving ,instead of staying in my corner

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InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked · 16/06/2026 16:43

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 09:24

Thank you ....so much to think about...and I have left it till my meno brain fog years to sort my head out, when I should have could have if only had, done it at least ten years ago .....

Almost all, All actually, of the posts have been so useful ....I am going to first off see if the Bipolar symptoms and presentation matches up with what I know ....

Only this thread has made me see for the first time that HWE itself might have been only the benign part of the diagnosis being shared with me to date and that it might have been a smaller part of a bigger set of health issues like Bipolar.

He has said his last ex before me was bi polar ....that would make sense in light of what some posters have pointed out that his meds fit BPolar etc ....that he would have wanted originally to settle down with someone he could be completely open with and who shared the same condition ....she had been two timing him with someone else, turns out so he broke up with her about 6 months before he met me

He says he cried uncontrollably the day after, never seen him cry like that in 24 years......

It’s in the past now but it is possible the ex girlfriend story is a lie. She may have experienced some of his anger and dumped him. Lying bastards love twisting the truth to present themselves more favourably. Some men don’t have the capacity or humility to be honest and admit they were dumped by a woman.

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:39

But if you want to tell yourself that your husband was aggressive and violent because he had epilepsy and it was all his bad wiring that caused his behaviour as opposed to it being his own free-will and his choice to treat you like that, then you do that if it makes you feel more comfortable

@ScaredButUnavoidable , I did not say that. I said that studies show that in a very small percentage of people with certain types of epilepsy, AEDs can cause aggression. And the condition itself has a higher co-morbidity with psychological illnesses IN A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE and that my instinct told me he could be in that small percentage from the fact that I know him for 20plus years !

What part of that is to make me feel more comfortable? Have you ever been hit? Its not comfortable.

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ScaredButUnavoidable · 16/06/2026 16:32

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:09

I am sorry if it was, I am only going with instinct that he is one of those 1% of people with a co-morbidity.

I think you probably have a lot more prejudices and unpleasant views about the condition than you are prepared to admit.

But if you want to tell yourself that your husband was aggressive and violent because he had epilepsy and it was all his bad wiring that caused his behaviour as opposed to it being his own free-will and his choice to treat you like that, then you do that if it makes you feel more comfortable.

At least you had the balls to admit to us that you wouldn’t have married him if he had been open about his diagnosis with you.

I’m glad you are finding the courage to leave him though. Violence is never ok.

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:14

You see based on those above two incidents, why it took me a very long time to first off all forgive myself (work in progress, actually still) for escalating instead of walking away in quiet dignity

But I do now believe nothing justifies physical violence

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:09

ScaredButUnavoidable · 16/06/2026 15:56

Do you know how offensive this might sound to people with epilepsy?

You seem to want to blame his behaviour on something you’ve read on the internet and by constantly repeating it you are basically stigmatising a whole group of people who have to live with a really shitty and debilitating health condition.

Why can’t you just accept you married a violent and abusive man? Can you not bring yourself to acknowledge that? Why are you trying to absolve him of his actions by claiming he was wired wrong?

People with epilepsy aren’t wired wrong or “not pathologically correct”.

I’m pretty sure 99% of people with epilepsy go through life without choosing to be being violent and abusive towards other people.

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I am sorry if it was, I am only going with instinct that he is one of those 1% of people with a co-morbidity.

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 16:08

Some of the violent times for context -

Incident 1 -

I Questioned, like 3 months after the wedding (remember I was only 25 this is so embarrassing) 'what the eff is wrong with your parents? why the co dependency? why do you need to see them everyday? Are they using you making you stay nearby? What the eff is going on? why did you not marry them instead of me? YOU OWE it to me to be a better husband than this, you are a shit husband. You dont even come home to me , you go to them every evening first. He then slapped me and pushed me away, I fell. He walked away. I cant remember what making up looked like, I think the same evening (you cannot make this stuff up), my sister called and said my dad was admitted in hospital with what we thought was jaundice (turned out obstructive jaundice, Pancreatic cancer etc.). Therefore, I never dealt with the above incident appropriately and normalized it , but a stronger person than me would not have done that, I do see that.

Incident 2 -

He then decided only spending time with his parents every single evening (weekday and sundays) was too kind on me, and started eventually the next year, also hanging out with a female colleague after work. He got mentionitis, again just a year after our wedding and six months after my dad passed. He and she started hanging out together after work at the office cafeteria , for coffee. along with two other colleagues , who were dating each other (since married). One day , on a sunday or saturday, he said he was going to meet her for lunch with the other two colleagues aforementioned. He said he and them were going to buy her a dress (?!) as a birthday gift and present it to her at the lunch. None of these ppl worked in the same team or department, so not a work thing. I said if nothing romantic was going on then he would have no objection to me coming. He said I can't come and I should trust him, and it was sick how untrusting I was. I barred his way (Oh God) saying if he left , he may not find me still there when he came back - he pushed me out of the way so hard I fell and hit the table nearby and he did not even wait to see if I was okay and he left. I think I did pack my stuff ,but he talked me out of leaving when he got back saying the suspicious person I was , I needed help

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 15:56

Thanks @InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked , @Pinkdayss and @HelenHywater

My dad was one of those gentle souls and I never saw this dynamic of an abusive and/or angry man growing up...he did have a stroke in his 40s that he recovered from and went back to work within 2 months fully mobile and active as ever ....but I did see personality change I suppose, him dull and quiet during those few months, apathetic - my mother was fully supportive and his rock. I never witnessed any aggression from him toward her or us during this time, but he did seem far less eloquent with his words, no nuance etc.

I guess there is history of brain damage - personality affect and family needing to support through - my anger still remains more that he did not tell me beforehand and give me a chance to be supportive and let me find my way in the dark, rather than anger about the temper itself.

Going to do another post with the violence incidents for further context, as the responses on here have been so insightful and made me think on new pathways that I had not considered before - he still maintains that any man , even a saint would have been driven to violence with my shrew like behaviour in those incidents, though he also had bouts of crying and apologising and pleading

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ScaredButUnavoidable · 16/06/2026 15:56

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:31

If you ask me instinctively which my heart believes based on what I know

The wiring is wrong and that is not his fault, his anger moods, everything has something to do with the temporal lobe or frontal lobe neurons and their dysregulation of para sympathetic nervous system causes a very bad fight response to even the most minor disagreement.

But the decision to not tell me before the wedding or engagement , that shows his personality. And that was on him. He still won't apologise for it.

Do you know how offensive this might sound to people with epilepsy?

You seem to want to blame his behaviour on something you’ve read on the internet and by constantly repeating it you are basically stigmatising a whole group of people who have to live with a really shitty and debilitating health condition.

Why can’t you just accept you married a violent and abusive man? Can you not bring yourself to acknowledge that? Why are you trying to absolve him of his actions by claiming he was wired wrong?

People with epilepsy aren’t wired wrong or “not pathologically correct”.

I’m pretty sure 99% of people with epilepsy go through life without choosing to be being violent and abusive towards other people.

HelenHywater · 16/06/2026 14:55

I think we always try to attribute abusive behaviour to something - I had an ex who had a very abusive childhood, I used to talk about his "paraysmpathetic nervous system too". (He shouted at me, hard a short fuse, called me names, didn't hit me).

I realised it didn't really matter. My ex didn't even acknowledge he was an angry person. And while I might have been sympathetic to his awful childhood, in the end I had to put myself (and my children) first.

of course you are reasonable to be angry at his lying to you. Although I'd say you should get counselling for that. But isn't it MUCH MORE important that you've been hit by this man hard several times, that you're constantly on egg shells, that you have to reassure him like he's another of your children? Your psychobabble about why he does this is just not relevant - he won't get help, and actually I agree with the pp, he's likely just an abusive bastard. If you were getting counselling, you'd find out why you feel the need to stay, why you are constantly rescuing him, why you have put your own needs (and those of your children, if you have any) second to his for so long. Honestly, he sounds fucking awful.

Pinkdayss · 16/06/2026 14:53

OP, you poor woman.
I feel shocked and full of sympathy for you.

At 25 you were naive, so was I despite living abroad, well travelled in a great career.

Without the Internet we couldn't check things out the way we can today.

You married an angry, violent, liar who has a personality disorder.

You have been misled by him and his awful parents.

He has abused you emotionally and physically.

I can absolutely imagine that you must regret your choices, but I certainly don't think you should.

They are a family of liars.

At 48 you have so much more living to do.
Get therapy and find out do you want to really stay with this vile man.

You deserve so much better.

InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked · 16/06/2026 14:46

For whatever reasons, religious or personal, you seem
entirely convinced that this is all your fault. It is not your fault.

I repeat: it is not your fault.

You have been a loving and caring partner. You have tread very carefully around him for years in the misguided belief that his medical issues excuse his violence and bad temper. You mention original sin and atonement, again, putting the blame on yourself.

Blame rests entirely with him. He should’ve been honest with you from day 1 even if he did not fully know things himself. He could’ve shared what he did know. He could’ve shown remorse and concern for you following his violent outbursts
but, again, it was all about him.

Catholicism aside, I wonder why you feel you deserve to be treated like this and blame yourself. Did you see anything similar with any other family relationships like your own parents? I also wonder if your ‘D’ H has historically made disparaging comments about your faith to belittle you and make you feel inferior to him.

(I recall an old school friend’s father who constantly belittled his lovely Irish Catholic wife. Had convinced her (as his parents had) that she wasn’t good enough for him. He treated her badly, she let him and it was plain to my, then 15 year old, eyes that he had crushed her soul. When he was away with work, she was a different person.) I digress, sorry.

It is possible he has manipulated you and made you doubt your self-worth. You deserve to live without the fear of incurring his wrath.

Sending love and strength to you @RachelWarddxx

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:42

Thanks @bumblebee3122 , no I want him to apologise to me for not telling me before the wedding. I mean like I want him to stop feeling shame about the childhood diagnosis which he does, and I want him to feel shame for his lies, which he does not.

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Beachforever · 16/06/2026 14:39

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:33

I want him to own up to the lies and go to therapy @Beachforever , to come out of the shame and anger he felt growing up. Perhaps it should be directed at his parents then he would not feel it for me, but either ways therapy can support him come to terms with all that anger, rage , depression, moods he feels

I need therapy too to get over my anger at all my in laws not just him

But you can’t control him. You can’t make him apologise for something he doesn’t feel sorry for. Equally, you can’t make him go to therapy.

You have decided that you want to attribute his vile behaviour to his epilepsy. And you want him to apologise to you for that. But clearly that’s not the way he sees it. Nor many of us on this thread.

Your current and future happiness is down to you, and you alone. You have complete agency on how you choose to feel about things, the behaviour you’re willing to accept in a marriage and how you want to live your life.

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:39

Thank you , this thread has been extremely clarifying

My anger is valid, I have been gaslit

Now what, is an answer I will need time to decide. I am not sure I want to stay

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:37

I am sorry to say I am an extremely shallow person, I might have backed out of the wedding even if he had told me the week before. I would not have had the maturity at that age.......

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:35

Not telling me was pathological right? It was not a small white lie?

He has minimised and gaslighted this point as recently as yesterday

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:33

Beachforever · 16/06/2026 14:30

OP, are you happy in your marriage? Are you thriving?

Because it doesn’t sound as though you are.

And to me, it kind of makes all this historic epilepsy, who did or didn’t say what etc kind of irrelevant.

If you were happy and content in your marriage, anything that happened in the past wouldn’t matter.

If you are not happy, then rather than dwell on the past, start focusing on your future and what you can do right now to change how you feel. Maybe it’s therapy, together or alone. Maybe it’s starting to imagine a future without your DH and planning for that?

I want him to own up to the lies and go to therapy @Beachforever , to come out of the shame and anger he felt growing up. Perhaps it should be directed at his parents then he would not feel it for me, but either ways therapy can support him come to terms with all that anger, rage , depression, moods he feels

I need therapy too to get over my anger at all my in laws not just him

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RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:31

If you ask me instinctively which my heart believes based on what I know

The wiring is wrong and that is not his fault, his anger moods, everything has something to do with the temporal lobe or frontal lobe neurons and their dysregulation of para sympathetic nervous system causes a very bad fight response to even the most minor disagreement.

But the decision to not tell me before the wedding or engagement , that shows his personality. And that was on him. He still won't apologise for it.

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Beachforever · 16/06/2026 14:30

OP, are you happy in your marriage? Are you thriving?

Because it doesn’t sound as though you are.

And to me, it kind of makes all this historic epilepsy, who did or didn’t say what etc kind of irrelevant.

If you were happy and content in your marriage, anything that happened in the past wouldn’t matter.

If you are not happy, then rather than dwell on the past, start focusing on your future and what you can do right now to change how you feel. Maybe it’s therapy, together or alone. Maybe it’s starting to imagine a future without your DH and planning for that?

RachelWardd · 16/06/2026 14:29

:-(

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