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to feel he should have told me about this health condition before we married

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RachelWardd · 15/06/2026 15:50

We met when I was 23 and he was 30.

I was swept off my feet at first meet, he was tall dark handsome romantic funny kind gentle brave .....etc.

We dated for two years and married when I was 25, my parents were strict catholic and I never lived with him back then (we're talking 20+ years ago now) before we married, just dated , never went away together really either.....stayed over at his at the time, he lived very close to his parents, but said it was cos he loved that part of the city /country growing up and all his friends were there etc so that made sense at the time. I moved in with him after we married.

Long story short. In the first two three years, I knew I had married someone with a very very low fuse (as I called at in my twenties) - prone to anger, somewhat selfish, very focused on his needs, very quick flight or fight responses to any changes in plan

Turns out one of the many reasons he was popping in every evening at his parents' for at least 10 minutes on way home was - they were (well in to his 30s) still monitoring and administering sodium valporate pills to him. I opened the packet once when his dad left it out accidentally and I had popped over.

Slowly it came out in the open that he had been diagnosed with a benign reflex form of epilepsy ( he got partial focal type seizures when taking a hot shower or hot bath and almost always or always only then) from when he was less than 10 years old. But 'DH' still said it was fully under control with medication and he had been 'episode free' since 2001 and we met in 2002 and married in 2004.

Eventually he got off the meds completely in 2008 and as far as I know has not had any more episodes just by being careful I think while in the shower or bath
I still think he should have told me - he grew up going to epilepsy clinics, top neuro consultants, thinking life would not be normal as he was still having seizures, falling in the shower leading to head injuries (multiple) , trips to hospital in the ambulance as a teen.

A big part of his life for the first 30 years - and defined his relations with his parents and siblings - and his outlook on life. At the very least he should have told me as he knows this is sometimes genetic and there is a 30pc chance yet that our teen DC could still go on to develop this and have to go through the same to find the right meds and then to learn how to self limit it.

with all the knowledge we have now online, I do think all his flight or fight dysregulation, responses to stress, conflict, self focus are linked. At least armed with this information, I could have approached our marriage with more empathy and compassion if nothing else.

AIBU for me to still feel angry now and then when I remember this lie by omission and his excuses that it wasnt relevant information to tell me.....I am 48 now, he is 55

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RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 14:28

HelenHan67 · 18/06/2026 13:49

Yeah, I'll leave. I can't be bothered to educate someone so ableist and unwilling to accept anyone's perspective than their own.

Sorry the post asking people who are triggered to leave perhaps was harsh. The whole point of an AIBU thread is inviting all opinions.

Don't know why you keep calling ableist, I am anything but able.

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HelenHan67 · 18/06/2026 13:49

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:31

Let me be Clear - his anger and arseholeness is IN NO WAY RELATED TO EPILEPSY. If anything though it is the reverse, I feel there was something special about him that very very much attracted me to him and what he went through, the hard times, must have shown through in some way as I did and still do very tender and protective by default - and have to give myself stern shakes not to. I am an empath by nature.

ANYONE who is saying anything offensive about PEOPLE with epilepsy , please can you leave the thread, thank you.

But there could still be a chance the SV was for Bipolar, it was not for common cold in any case.

Yeah, I'll leave. I can't be bothered to educate someone so ableist and unwilling to accept anyone's perspective than their own.

bigboykitty · 18/06/2026 12:36

I think being in an abusive relationship with someone who treats you like shit, makes you vulnerable to affairs or involvement with people who are kind and normal.

Your husband is an abuser. Like all abusers, he denies it, DARVOs you and says you are crazy. This won't change. He is a textbook abuser.

As several posters have told you, you cannot take him for a brain scan to diagnose bipolar. You should forget about any medical explanation for his abuse. I'm sorry for being so blunt but you really don't seem to be listening very much or taking anything on board. I'm not sure why that is.

FourSevenThree · 18/06/2026 12:31

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:19

@InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked , @Itisalwayspossibletobekind , and others who have been really supportive.

When he said I had no reason to leave 12 years ago and said he would make custody battle a hell on earth for me if I still choose to go and that they were HIS SONS, I did the following in anger myself, what then naturally followed was a lot of self hate I still carry around for doing the following as it may have been to hurt him when he found out (and he did and he was ANGRY) , but it was a million times more self destructive - I did not recognise myself at all in these acts and yet it was me doing them -

  1. 'Fell in love' with a very supportive colleague in my early thirties, did not get physical , told H the truth and that I wanted to leave him to go be with someone who genuinely liked me. H said the DC were his and he would not let them leave with me. I did not want to involve police/legal so I ...stayed.
  2. In my early 40s, I went onto TInder, made a profile only first name and pics - did not hook up with anyone. But talked to guys and enjoyed the attention. Was honest about my situation and single men were okay to hook up anyway, but I didnt go ahead, then I stopped as it was wasting their time too, they werent on TInder to be friends.

Hate myself. Does someone who has done the above, still deserve to say defiantly my life matters? But, a part of me says two wrongs do not cancel each other out, and perhaps I do not deserve happiness as such, but I still should leave him, cos neither does he deserve me staying.

It's not great, but understandable. And most importantly, it is absolutely irrelevant.

You don't have to somehow deserve being happy - you need to just aim to live the best life you can going forward, if possible be happy doing so.

He lied about marriage changing stuff and abused you. Someone upthread mentioned, that it would be enough to attempt annulment, but annulment being very long process. If you are ok with a divorce as an option, you can take the "it would be enough to go for annulment" as a sign to allow yourself to chose divorce if you would want to do so.

I understand that you would still prefer for him to just realise his error and work on his illness&behaviour, but that won't happen unless he wants to do so (and even there it is no guarantee it would have good enough results).

kirinm · 18/06/2026 12:31

You definitely should not be together - it is a horribly toxic relationship. You should stop diagnosing him too. If someone came up to me and told me I should revisit a condition I stopped suffering from 25 years ago and that I probably had a mental health condition on top, I’d probably react in a similar fashion.

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:31

kirinm · 18/06/2026 12:26

Your life does matter but you’ve blamed your husbands behaviour on epilepsy and other posters have tried to attribute his anger to epilepsy too. You refuse to budge on that - insisting there must be a neurological explanation for his abuse. That is offensive whether you like it or not,

Let me be Clear - his anger and arseholeness is IN NO WAY RELATED TO EPILEPSY. If anything though it is the reverse, I feel there was something special about him that very very much attracted me to him and what he went through, the hard times, must have shown through in some way as I did and still do very tender and protective by default - and have to give myself stern shakes not to. I am an empath by nature.

ANYONE who is saying anything offensive about PEOPLE with epilepsy , please can you leave the thread, thank you.

But there could still be a chance the SV was for Bipolar, it was not for common cold in any case.

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kirinm · 18/06/2026 12:28

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:19

@InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked , @Itisalwayspossibletobekind , and others who have been really supportive.

When he said I had no reason to leave 12 years ago and said he would make custody battle a hell on earth for me if I still choose to go and that they were HIS SONS, I did the following in anger myself, what then naturally followed was a lot of self hate I still carry around for doing the following as it may have been to hurt him when he found out (and he did and he was ANGRY) , but it was a million times more self destructive - I did not recognise myself at all in these acts and yet it was me doing them -

  1. 'Fell in love' with a very supportive colleague in my early thirties, did not get physical , told H the truth and that I wanted to leave him to go be with someone who genuinely liked me. H said the DC were his and he would not let them leave with me. I did not want to involve police/legal so I ...stayed.
  2. In my early 40s, I went onto TInder, made a profile only first name and pics - did not hook up with anyone. But talked to guys and enjoyed the attention. Was honest about my situation and single men were okay to hook up anyway, but I didnt go ahead, then I stopped as it was wasting their time too, they werent on TInder to be friends.

Hate myself. Does someone who has done the above, still deserve to say defiantly my life matters? But, a part of me says two wrongs do not cancel each other out, and perhaps I do not deserve happiness as such, but I still should leave him, cos neither does he deserve me staying.

None of this makes his abuse justified.

In my view having an emotional affair(s) is probably worse than not disclosing a medical condition tbh but I’m sure plenty here would disagree.

kirinm · 18/06/2026 12:26

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:11

No one on here has said this, maybe unfollow the thread if it is triggering though.

My life matters too.

Your life does matter but you’ve blamed your husbands behaviour on epilepsy and other posters have tried to attribute his anger to epilepsy too. You refuse to budge on that - insisting there must be a neurological explanation for his abuse. That is offensive whether you like it or not,

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:24

Also, I did try broaching this morning with him a gentle conversation along the lines of lets go the Doctor and review the childhood diagnosis and med history, lets get an up to date MRI to rule out Bi-polar. etc. And if there was a problem, Doctors could help with mood stabilizers etc.

He categorically refused and said 'You are the crazy one, not me....'

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RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:19

@InspectorDuckedCantBeFooked , @Itisalwayspossibletobekind , and others who have been really supportive.

When he said I had no reason to leave 12 years ago and said he would make custody battle a hell on earth for me if I still choose to go and that they were HIS SONS, I did the following in anger myself, what then naturally followed was a lot of self hate I still carry around for doing the following as it may have been to hurt him when he found out (and he did and he was ANGRY) , but it was a million times more self destructive - I did not recognise myself at all in these acts and yet it was me doing them -

  1. 'Fell in love' with a very supportive colleague in my early thirties, did not get physical , told H the truth and that I wanted to leave him to go be with someone who genuinely liked me. H said the DC were his and he would not let them leave with me. I did not want to involve police/legal so I ...stayed.
  2. In my early 40s, I went onto TInder, made a profile only first name and pics - did not hook up with anyone. But talked to guys and enjoyed the attention. Was honest about my situation and single men were okay to hook up anyway, but I didnt go ahead, then I stopped as it was wasting their time too, they werent on TInder to be friends.

Hate myself. Does someone who has done the above, still deserve to say defiantly my life matters? But, a part of me says two wrongs do not cancel each other out, and perhaps I do not deserve happiness as such, but I still should leave him, cos neither does he deserve me staying.

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RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 12:11

kirinm · 18/06/2026 11:34

Me too. As an epileptic of 35 years, it’s nice to hear how angry we all are and why you should think twice about being in a relationship with one of us.

No one on here has said this, maybe unfollow the thread if it is triggering though.

My life matters too.

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kirinm · 18/06/2026 11:34

HelenHan67 · 18/06/2026 11:28

A third person who agrees. It's actually really offensive, rude and ableist and people piping in with things they've read on the internet about epilepsy aren't helping. You have no idea.

Me too. As an epileptic of 35 years, it’s nice to hear how angry we all are and why you should think twice about being in a relationship with one of us.

HelenHan67 · 18/06/2026 11:28

Chamallo · 16/06/2026 23:56

100% this. I hope OP leaves this abusive man, and educates herself about epilepsy. She is so offensive and ignorant.

A third person who agrees. It's actually really offensive, rude and ableist and people piping in with things they've read on the internet about epilepsy aren't helping. You have no idea.

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 10:20

Well , technically the below does not apply to us, as he never left his parents to marry me.....

Have you not read that he who made them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder (Matt 19:4-6).

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Toooldtocare25 · 18/06/2026 10:15

I’m not sure to be honest but the bipolar and epilepsy are intertwined sometimes even misdiagnosed as each other. I’m no expert still learning 😊x

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 10:11

@Itisalwayspossibletobekind , thank you, Your username fits you very well. Your posts are so kindhearted, I keep reading them over and over.

I have read Lundy a few times - he does not have any solutions other than LEAVE though .... with good reason, likely. Based on his experience of abusive men.

@Toooldtocare25 , Is it possible to diagnose Bi-polar medically other than just description of behaviour? Wikipedia indicates an MRI can be indicative, even conclusive in some cases? I want him to take me as well along and see the doctors and to see if there is medical help possible for the moods/anger/outbursts/unhappy soul.

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RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 10:05

BibbityBobbity2 · 16/06/2026 08:39

Apart from the medication itself, and his behaviour, it was him stopping by his parents’ place as an adult to receive medication that made me wonder. Family members will sometimes manage medication for people with bipolar to make sure they take it.

Mania and hypomania can often present as extreme irritability, anger and “having a short fuse.”

It’s not a condition that just resolves, though, it will get much worse over time if not properly treated, so you would see a worsening of those behaviours.

Irritability is getting worse indeed.....

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kirinm · 18/06/2026 09:35

Toooldtocare25 · 17/06/2026 08:10

It sounds to me like unregulated bipolar. It is linked with fits and I speak from experience. I was lucky that I was told about it by my hubby straight away or else we wouldn’t have been married. He is prone to selfish behaviour and has a quick temper but just walks out never abusive or violent. I’ve worked hard to get him the right meds and he is so much better now he is stable. When he is not stable I can only describe as zero accountability and irrational. It doesn’t matter what I say he would be the victim. He has some sort of shadow on the brain which caused him to have the similar fits to your hubby. If he gets too hot now he has night terrors or sometimes what I think are fits in his sleep. We sleep with a fan. There are quite a few similarities here.
I think I would be as annoyed as you but personally probably wouldn’t have made as far as you without knowing.
it’s extremely difficult to navigate, but he needs meds and he needs to take ownership of it in order for you to move forward.

You don’t speak from medical experience. It’s so inappropriate to try and diagnose someone who previously had a diagnosis of epilepsy with a mental illness.

kirinm · 18/06/2026 09:34

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 08:05

Thank you all so much, I have read every post so many times last night and am doing a full re-read of the thread this morning too. So much in here for me to absorb and reflect on - there are aspects I had never thought of as well.

My life mattered too ...and I do not think he acknowledged that , then or now.

Bi-polar symptoms match exactly , like a glove. He sleeps only 2-3 hours every night, he cannot ever sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time, its like permanent jetlag or rather, to use the right term - Hypo-Mania phase.

I need to find a way, if there is one, to get him to come for a modern world (not 1970s-80s) Brain MRI and EEG , with technology having advanced so much - to check if MRI results indicate Bi-polar.

I think he lies all the time to his GP's as well......

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I think you need to stop diagnosing him. You’re not a doctor and the bi-polar diagnose has come from this thread. You know he has had a form of epilepsy. That’s how this whole thread started. You don’t know enough about bi-polar given your reference to EEGs and MRIs.

But notwithstanding any of that, I agree with others. You are fixated on the wrong thing. What you should concentrate on is the way he treats you and why that isn’t acceptable. Your job is not to fix him.

measuretwicecutonce · 18/06/2026 09:01

I don’t think I would want to spend the years I had left caring for this man OP.

Swiftie1878 · 18/06/2026 08:11

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 08:05

Thank you all so much, I have read every post so many times last night and am doing a full re-read of the thread this morning too. So much in here for me to absorb and reflect on - there are aspects I had never thought of as well.

My life mattered too ...and I do not think he acknowledged that , then or now.

Bi-polar symptoms match exactly , like a glove. He sleeps only 2-3 hours every night, he cannot ever sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time, its like permanent jetlag or rather, to use the right term - Hypo-Mania phase.

I need to find a way, if there is one, to get him to come for a modern world (not 1970s-80s) Brain MRI and EEG , with technology having advanced so much - to check if MRI results indicate Bi-polar.

I think he lies all the time to his GP's as well......

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I don’t think any scan can diagnose bi-polar, and I really think you’re focusing on the wrong thing. It doesn’t matter what is causing his behaviour. It is harming you and you don’t need to put up with it. You’ve wasted enough time mothering a grown man who doesn’t want to help himself. Focus on YOU, not him.

RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 08:06

My life matters too....is my new mantra ....in my marriage.

Thank you.

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RachelWardd · 18/06/2026 08:05

Thank you all so much, I have read every post so many times last night and am doing a full re-read of the thread this morning too. So much in here for me to absorb and reflect on - there are aspects I had never thought of as well.

My life mattered too ...and I do not think he acknowledged that , then or now.

Bi-polar symptoms match exactly , like a glove. He sleeps only 2-3 hours every night, he cannot ever sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time, its like permanent jetlag or rather, to use the right term - Hypo-Mania phase.

I need to find a way, if there is one, to get him to come for a modern world (not 1970s-80s) Brain MRI and EEG , with technology having advanced so much - to check if MRI results indicate Bi-polar.

I think he lies all the time to his GP's as well......

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Scarlettpixie · 17/06/2026 14:31

Please don't think it is some test from God for you to care for this man and put up with his shit. I am not a believer but if their was a God, I would hope for one who loves us not one who plays games with our lives.

It sounds like your son has the measure of him which is good. If you decide to split it will be hard at first but you will be fine I promise. You cannot change the past but you can choose the future you want.

Itisalwayspossibletobekind · 17/06/2026 13:04

Itisalwayspossibletobekind · 15/06/2026 20:12

Hello again OP, you have not thrown away your one wild and precious life, you are still living it! You are only 48, I think you said? But you are also right, your life and hopes and dreams ARE precious. (And I kind of hope a little bit wild too - who knows!)

You WILL be able to effect change to move yourself going forwards authentically to who you are.

But I think you are firstly beginning to realise you have been in an abusive relationship. And that you deserve far better for your next 48 years. No one should walk on eggshells.

Lundy Bancroft book could be a good one to look at: you seem to need to understand his abusive behaviour. It could certainly help you to actually name what is going on and accept that it is NOT your fault. Do NOT let him know you are reading it.

As well as how you have been manipulated and hit, the fundamental element of all abuse is to control others through horrific emotional (abusive) behaviours that can in fact be very subtle and tricky to notice. You are noticing now. This can feel like an avalanche of realisation. Please attribute no shame on your part whatsoever to this.

It is NOT your fault and you have NOT done anything "wrong".

Having said all that, please be careful and do not disclose any of the new insights you are gaining to him.

Seek help and start to orchestrate a safe exit for yourself (and children and any pets) from this abusive situation.

Take care with your electronic footprint. Including this very thread.

Above all, believe that your deserve far, far more for your life. And I have every faith that you will make your moves and changes and ultimately will soar.

Can you contact Women's Aid? Your GP? Or what feels like an achievable step for you?

Hello again OP,

Here is a link to the Lundy Bancroft book I found online for you. I hope that I have pasted it in a way that works. If not, a quick google search brings it up.

Even if you read the bit near the beginning titled 'Note on Terminology' I think you will find the information on the spectrum of behaviours of anger and control useful.

And of course it remains ultimately your choice whether or not to review anything in it at all / whether to dip into it further.

I think Chapter 2 goes into 'myths' and looks at childhood issues.

(PMT is not the issue here either, but hope you're not feeling too yucky.)

As I mentioned upthread, please consider keeping your insights and new information to yourself, and give careful thought to your electronic footprint including this thread, your safety and that of your children +/- any pets.

Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men

Lundy Bancroft

https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf