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AIBU to think my partner should stop his 11-year-old wearing make-up to school?

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GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 07:17

Just had a bit of a ding dong with my partner of several years about his 11 year old daughter wearing make up to school this morning and need to know if I'm being unreasonable.

He's just come into our bedroom laughing saying she's wearing make up for school, so I said 'and did you tell her to take it off'? He said no, all her friends wearing it apparently and the teacher just shrugs her shoulders. I said, regardless of what his 11 year old says, he should tell her to take it off.

As a parent myself of a grown girl, there is no way she'd have been allowed to wear make up to school. He says he's going to let her get into trouble at school if it's an issue. I said he should be the one telling her, not school and that he's just avoiding a confrontation and hoping the teachers will do the parenting and it's not fair on them. It's his responsibility.

She's with us about 40% of the time and I'm struggling with him allowing her to get away with so many things, food, phone use etc.

Anyway, he's now in a strop saying I'm criticising his parenting (I am about the make up, I have told him I absolutely think he's wrong on this and feel really strongly about it, he says I'mover reacting and is really angry).

I don't think I can cope with this anymore, being a stepmum is really bloody hard. Why do I even care. I should just let it go. I've said if I'm a part of the kids lives I have to be able to tell him when I disagree with things. I just don't know if I can cope with another 5 or 6 years of teenage stuff and staying quiet about things I feel quite strongly about...

OP posts:
GotTheBluePeterBadge · 15/06/2026 11:34

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 07:17

Just had a bit of a ding dong with my partner of several years about his 11 year old daughter wearing make up to school this morning and need to know if I'm being unreasonable.

He's just come into our bedroom laughing saying she's wearing make up for school, so I said 'and did you tell her to take it off'? He said no, all her friends wearing it apparently and the teacher just shrugs her shoulders. I said, regardless of what his 11 year old says, he should tell her to take it off.

As a parent myself of a grown girl, there is no way she'd have been allowed to wear make up to school. He says he's going to let her get into trouble at school if it's an issue. I said he should be the one telling her, not school and that he's just avoiding a confrontation and hoping the teachers will do the parenting and it's not fair on them. It's his responsibility.

She's with us about 40% of the time and I'm struggling with him allowing her to get away with so many things, food, phone use etc.

Anyway, he's now in a strop saying I'm criticising his parenting (I am about the make up, I have told him I absolutely think he's wrong on this and feel really strongly about it, he says I'mover reacting and is really angry).

I don't think I can cope with this anymore, being a stepmum is really bloody hard. Why do I even care. I should just let it go. I've said if I'm a part of the kids lives I have to be able to tell him when I disagree with things. I just don't know if I can cope with another 5 or 6 years of teenage stuff and staying quiet about things I feel quite strongly about...

While I empathise, OP, and I agree with you - children should not be wearing makeup - this decision isn't yours.

You're not being unreasonable in expressing your opinion to your husband, but it is unreasonable to expect him to agree with you and enact your will.

catcatcat24 · 15/06/2026 11:28

Zanatdy · 15/06/2026 07:21

YABU. His child, his rules and none of your business.

Nonsense.

Sassylovesbooks · 15/06/2026 11:28

The school might not be bothered, because I'm assuming your step-daughter is leaving in a few weeks, and it will no longer be their problem. My son is in Year 10, make-up is not allowed at all in Years 7-9 and a small amount in Year 10-13, at his school. Girls will have a detention if they are wearing make-up or too much.

This situation isn't about wearing make-up to school as such; it's about the OP's partner failing to put in boundaries and discipline his daughter. He wants to be his daughter's 'friend', or seen as 'Disney Dad', rather than parenting her. He's taking the easy option of just allowing his daughter to do as she pleases, because he can't be bothered to parent and dislikes confrontation. He's not doing his daughter any favours at all.

I can understand why the OP is annoyed. Her partner is going to make life harder for his daughter in the long run, because he's not parenting her. It's going to make his life and the OP's harder when his daughter is in her teens and he can't do a bean with her because he's failed to put in boundaries!

Ultimately OP, there's nothing you can do. It's his daughter. You might be able to see he's making mistakes, but he can't. You will need to let it go. At some point in the future when his daughter is getting dentions at secondary school, and he's being sent emails/receiving phone calls from her Tutor/HOH, the penny might drop.

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:25

chocoluv · 15/06/2026 11:22

You threw your toys out of the pram because he didn’t do what you said.

If I was him, I would not have allowed it but he chose to allow it.
His reasons are irrelevant, it doesn’t matter if he didn’t want the confrontation or if he doesn’t mind his DD wearing make up.

You should give your opinion and then accept his decision.

Did you miss the part where I said I apologised to him and said I'd stay in my lane?

I'm bowing out now.

Thanks for anyone who left constructive points of view, I've taken a lot on board.

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EvelynBeatrice · 15/06/2026 11:23

Im not talking about minor things - God knows we all make parenting mistakes - sometimes big ones. But failing to safeguard including phone safety and to preserve sleep etc isn’t that minor.

chocoluv · 15/06/2026 11:22

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:10

Nope, wrong. I didn't throw my toys because he disagreed with me. I was frustrated because he bottled a confrontation with his 11 year old and said he'd let the teacher deal with it. He won't parent her unless it's fun things. It's very difficult to watch.

You threw your toys out of the pram because he didn’t do what you said.

If I was him, I would not have allowed it but he chose to allow it.
His reasons are irrelevant, it doesn’t matter if he didn’t want the confrontation or if he doesn’t mind his DD wearing make up.

You should give your opinion and then accept his decision.

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:21

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:19

I've very gently told him my concerns about what he let's her do now and the potential consequences when she's a teenager.

I've had a teenager girl, but hey, what do I know!!

Who btw was an emo/goth for a very long time, which I fully embraced, she just wasn't allowed make up at primary school!

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EvelynBeatrice · 15/06/2026 11:21

Yes. The issue isnt the child or you but Dad. Doesn’t he understand that if you fail as a parent, you fail at life. Nothing else you achieve can ever make up for it.

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:19

Agapornis · 15/06/2026 11:17

Could you have a conversation with him about him being a Disney dad? Long term, he's raising a spoilt dysfunctional adult. It isn't good for her, and she won't respect him for it. Having rules now will make proper puberty a lot easier.

I've very gently told him my concerns about what he let's her do now and the potential consequences when she's a teenager.

I've had a teenager girl, but hey, what do I know!!

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Agapornis · 15/06/2026 11:17

Could you have a conversation with him about him being a Disney dad? Long term, he's raising a spoilt dysfunctional adult. It isn't good for her, and she won't respect him for it. Having rules now will make proper puberty a lot easier.

Wellifyouresurebetterbegryffindor · 15/06/2026 11:16

I think you're being really reasonable overall op. I think YABU about the issue (this isn't a hill Id die on personally) but you've explained why and how this is important to you. You've also said you understand that you might have been unreasonable and have apologised to DP. I have no idea why people are still giving you a hard time.

arethereanyleftatall · 15/06/2026 11:15

What have been your experiences with men op that you are in love with one who is so deeply deeply selfish? Have you ever been single op? It’s better than this.

SpottyPyjama · 15/06/2026 11:14

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:06

I didn't say anything to her.

I said it to him.

It's against mum's and school rules.

She had a full face of make up on, at 11, for primary school.

He couldn't deal with a confrontation so said he'd let school deal with it.

I feel shit now because he and I had cross words.

She's oblivious so I'll hardly be a hated stepmother. I gave her most of the make up ffs, it's just not for primary school use in my books.

He is right to let school
feal with it. While I agree with you that make up on primary school
children is horrible, it doesn’t matter enough for a father to damage his relationship with his daughter. It’s make up, it’s not hurting anyone.

It doesn’t matter that you didn’t say anything to her. Your DSD isn’t stupid, she will be able to tell that you are the one loading the bullets and making her father fire them. From personal experience, I know how damaging that dynamic can be and the effect of it don’t just vanish as soon as this individual row is forgotten about.

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:13

BillieWiper · 15/06/2026 11:10

It's clearly not a school rule not to, or if it is it's not enforced, so why shouldn't she? What difference does it actually make to her ability to learn?

It's not your place to discipline or criticise your partners child. Her phone use and what food she consumes are also not really your business.

Erm, I do the cooking?

And you think I shouldn't be concerned when an 11 year old who spends 40% of the time with me/us, is on the phone to her boyfriend at 11pm at night?

Ok. You do you. I think I'm in the right to be concerned.

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Azandme · 15/06/2026 11:11

"should" isn't a word I particularly like, mostly because it's usually used to push opinion, rather than facts.

In this context it's definitely opinion. Yours and his differ, and as the parent his opinion is the one that goes.

You don't have to agree with it, but it's for him to decide.

He sounds a bit Disney. It's up to you to decide if you can live with that.

FlatStanley50 · 15/06/2026 11:10

MrsShawnHatosy · 15/06/2026 10:54

For lots of girls, make-up helps them feel more confident and helps them fit in. In a world where our children's mental health seems to be at an all time low, I don't know how that can be anything other than a good thing.

She’s 11 years old! Still at primary school! A child! Make up is not what 11 year olds need to help them feel more confident!

I despair.

This! My daughter was at guides camp at the weekend and one of her classmates (year 6, 11 years old) turned up with multiple serums, eyelash curlers, mascara, lipstick etc. For camping! And then apparently spent the whole camp talking about how she was missing her boyfriend. Does not have acne/ scarring or anything else going on that she might need to cover up. It's amazing the differences between how 'adult' some of the 11 year olds are and others more childlike still. Mine is more on the childlike side. There is a Y6 leavers prom and many of the parents are actively encouraging full faces of make up, getting hair done, heels and what I would consider inappropriate dresses, going with 'dates' etc. etc. Way too young in my opinion.

Anyway I agree here you need to go along with dad's rules, much as I agree with you that it is wrong at 11.

BillieWiper · 15/06/2026 11:10

It's clearly not a school rule not to, or if it is it's not enforced, so why shouldn't she? What difference does it actually make to her ability to learn?

It's not your place to discipline or criticise your partners child. Her phone use and what food she consumes are also not really your business.

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:10

chocoluv · 15/06/2026 11:05

YABU

I completely agree with you about wearing make up at 11.
No way would I let my child wear make up at that age to school.

I also think it’s fine for you to voice your opinion.
As his partner and DDs step mum, you should get an opinion.

However, it’s not ok to throw your toys out of the pram because your DP didn’t do what you say.

No matter how much cooking and cleaning you do, his opinion will anyways trump yours when it comes to his own DD.
I don’t know why you’d get in a huff about that.

You definitely need to remember where your lane is and stay in it.

Nope, wrong. I didn't throw my toys because he disagreed with me. I was frustrated because he bottled a confrontation with his 11 year old and said he'd let the teacher deal with it. He won't parent her unless it's fun things. It's very difficult to watch.

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Passaggressfedup · 15/06/2026 11:08

Maybe, like my dad did, he took the 'pick your battles' approach.

I'm not into make up. I don't really like seeing young girls with make up. I do think rules are important, but in this case, I would definitely see it as a pick your battle case. I would just bring it up as a discussion at another time to better understand why it's important to them. If it is a self esteem issue, I would focus on what I could do to improve it.

I struggle to understand the posters who seem to think it's a massive problem. A massive problem would be smoking behind the gates. Finding out they are bullying a kid. Answering back to a teacher. Refusing to do homework.

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:06

SpottyPyjama · 15/06/2026 11:03

I've said if I'm a part of the kids lives I have to be able to tell him when I disagree with things

That doesn’t man you get to dictate things and cause arguments if he didn’t dance to your tune.

Why would you do this to yourself? You are handing your poor dd reasons to see you as a hated stepmother.

I didn't say anything to her.

I said it to him.

It's against mum's and school rules.

She had a full face of make up on, at 11, for primary school.

He couldn't deal with a confrontation so said he'd let school deal with it.

I feel shit now because he and I had cross words.

She's oblivious so I'll hardly be a hated stepmother. I gave her most of the make up ffs, it's just not for primary school use in my books.

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chocoluv · 15/06/2026 11:05

YABU

I completely agree with you about wearing make up at 11.
No way would I let my child wear make up at that age to school.

I also think it’s fine for you to voice your opinion.
As his partner and DDs step mum, you should get an opinion.

However, it’s not ok to throw your toys out of the pram because your DP didn’t do what you say.

No matter how much cooking and cleaning you do, his opinion will anyways trump yours when it comes to his own DD.
I don’t know why you’d get in a huff about that.

You definitely need to remember where your lane is and stay in it.

SandyHappy · 15/06/2026 11:05

Lurkingandlearning · 15/06/2026 10:52

I think if you had written your post as if you were a concerned parent who had observed another parent's questionable parenting you would have received very different responses. You would have been told to contact the school, the safe guarding team, social services, the police. It seems a lot of MNs think that everyone has a right to challenge poor parenting apart from step parents. Apparently, it is none of their business even when they witness first hand poor parenting and play a co-parent role to some extent.

If you are living with someone who has a child but you are excluded from any parenting decisions, then you are not really part of that family. You are more like a lodger who performs various functions upon request. Almost a member of staff who pays for the privilege of being there.

"As another parent" You would have been told to contact the school, the safe guarding team, social services, the police.

What planet are you on?! No one is doing any of that because they saw a dad let his 11 year old wear concealer and mascara to school, the other parents are presumably just as lax as him if her friends are also doing it.. so doubtful they would even care.

In fairness, I think people saying it is "none of OPs business" are categorically wrong, as a step parent, it is her concern, and she absolutely CAN have an opinion on it, but she doesn't have any authority to implement or enforce rules that the actual parent disagrees with and she needs to accept that.

Ideally you should choose a partner who has the same parenting style as you if you want to avoid these issues.

Suzjspik · 15/06/2026 11:04

GreatPlumBiscuit · 15/06/2026 11:01

To primary school?

she is in year 7 late birthday

Suzjspik · 15/06/2026 11:03

Shes in year 7 late birthday

SpottyPyjama · 15/06/2026 11:03

I've said if I'm a part of the kids lives I have to be able to tell him when I disagree with things

That doesn’t man you get to dictate things and cause arguments if he didn’t dance to your tune.

Why would you do this to yourself? You are handing your poor dd reasons to see you as a hated stepmother.