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Boris, Farage and Gove re Brexit-“Never have so few done so much damage to so many with so little ability to execute what they lied about.”

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Gkei737djdh · 14/06/2026 11:19

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

All so silent. They should hang their heads in shame, surely be publicly be made to take ownership for what they did and be held to account.Cowards, the lot of them.

And surely it’s time we tried to right the wrongs of Brexit.

Heseltine: It’s time to reverse Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage’s Brexit ‘crime’

Exclusive: In a stinging attack on Brexiteers, Michael Heseltine says the British public has been conned

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

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Sausagenbacon · 14/06/2026 13:42

I would have more respect for those who voted Leave if they acknowledged it has not brought what they expected. It has not reduced migration, for example.
Do you think it matters one iota how much respect you have for a complete stranger?

Sausagenbacon · 14/06/2026 13:41

We've seen the damage Brexit has done. Do you accept that it's been damaging? If not, why not?
And Covid, and the war in Ukraine. Let it go, for god's sake. It's happened. What do you want to happen, grovel to the EU to let us in? And, if (enourmous if) they did, go ahead (political suicide).

LlynTegid · 14/06/2026 13:40

Sausagenbacon · 14/06/2026 13:35

Do Remaoners ever get tired of going on about Brexit, and insulting people who have committed the heinous sin by having different political opinions from them?
Obviously not.

I would have more respect for those who voted Leave if they acknowledged it has not brought what they expected. It has not reduced migration, for example.

LlynTegid · 14/06/2026 13:39

EUmumforever · 14/06/2026 11:32

They should be tried for treason, and one day the details of how they sold their country will come to light, I am sure

Boris Johnson should be tried for treason for suspending Parliament unlawfully. Along with Jacob Rees-Mogg who went to the Queen to get it approved.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/06/2026 13:37

Russia's hand in this was no secret. They continue to fund the traitors and the thick folk of the UK continue to fall for it.

randomchap · 14/06/2026 13:36

Sausagenbacon · 14/06/2026 13:35

Do Remaoners ever get tired of going on about Brexit, and insulting people who have committed the heinous sin by having different political opinions from them?
Obviously not.

We've seen the damage Brexit has done. Do you accept that it's been damaging? If not, why not?

randomchap · 14/06/2026 13:36

IthasYes · 14/06/2026 13:30

All these comments would make more as sense if the EU was booming and thriving and doing extremely well economically and other countries were finally booming.

We are a G7 country that's our eccomic group.
The EU is Germany and France.

That's it economically !

6 to 8% damage to GDP because of Brexit

Imports and exports down 15%

It was a mistake, it is a mistake, and will always be a mistake.

We've put economic sanctions on ourselves. Pure foolishness.

Sausagenbacon · 14/06/2026 13:35

Do Remaoners ever get tired of going on about Brexit, and insulting people who have committed the heinous sin by having different political opinions from them?
Obviously not.

IthasYes · 14/06/2026 13:31

Firetreev · 14/06/2026 12:27

I agree entirely, it was madness to offer it up to the electorate. The clowns amongst us swallowed the lies wholesale. It's just so desperately sad that the same people wish to inflict further damage on us by voting for Reform and Restore. I don't think they have a clue how bad things can get and how much lower we can go.

I look at the EU.and wonder what people want to be a part of it for ?

As said in previous post.

IthasYes · 14/06/2026 13:30

All these comments would make more as sense if the EU was booming and thriving and doing extremely well economically and other countries were finally booming.

We are a G7 country that's our eccomic group.
The EU is Germany and France.

That's it economically !

MandingoAteMyBaby · 14/06/2026 13:21

Tonissister · 14/06/2026 12:08

Or naive and trusting. I know NHS nurses who voted for Brexit because they believed the lies plastered on Boris's buses.

Naive and trusting is also a form of stupidity…

SerendipityJane · 14/06/2026 12:36

I wonder if MNHQ could add a new board "The Unarguable Truth" ?

Because there is nothing remotely "unreasonable" in the OPs assertion.

And this isn't "Am I Being Unpalatable" (although I would subscribed to that too 😀)

Farages role in this is rather different to the Goves and Johnsons thought. He ha carefully avoided any hint of responsibility here. He made sure he was tucked up safe in bed with his EU pension when the fallout was dealt with.

randomchap · 14/06/2026 12:31

TeaPot496 · 14/06/2026 12:20

I don't even think it was technically legally binding

It was advisory, not legally binding

But the Tories said they would implement it.

Firetreev · 14/06/2026 12:27

sweetpotatowedgeswithmayo · 14/06/2026 12:14

Naive and trusting is way too kind. It didn’t take a genius to work out that they don’t just take funding from one area and reapportion it elsewhere - it just doesn’t work like that.
10 years on and I am still fucking angry. The vote should never have been made to the public as (clearly) most people were too stupid to realise the ramifications.

I agree entirely, it was madness to offer it up to the electorate. The clowns amongst us swallowed the lies wholesale. It's just so desperately sad that the same people wish to inflict further damage on us by voting for Reform and Restore. I don't think they have a clue how bad things can get and how much lower we can go.

TeaPot496 · 14/06/2026 12:20

I don't even think it was technically legally binding

sweetpotatowedgeswithmayo · 14/06/2026 12:14

Naive and trusting is way too kind. It didn’t take a genius to work out that they don’t just take funding from one area and reapportion it elsewhere - it just doesn’t work like that.
10 years on and I am still fucking angry. The vote should never have been made to the public as (clearly) most people were too stupid to realise the ramifications.

Tonissister · 14/06/2026 12:08

MandingoAteMyBaby · 14/06/2026 11:25

Surely someone paid them to do this amount of damage. Self-infliction would imply the British are incredibly thick as a nation, and that couldn’t possibly be the case - could it ?

Or naive and trusting. I know NHS nurses who voted for Brexit because they believed the lies plastered on Boris's buses.

ilovesooty · 14/06/2026 12:08

EUmumforever · 14/06/2026 11:32

They should be tried for treason, and one day the details of how they sold their country will come to light, I am sure

Couldn't agree more.

ilovesooty · 14/06/2026 12:07

MrsShawnHatosy · 14/06/2026 11:28

And David Cameron deserves to be in that Group of Shame too.

Too right.

MrsShawnHatosy · 14/06/2026 11:51

TeaPot496 · 14/06/2026 11:39

After the Brexit result, Johnson's face was ashen, ASHEN I tell you. Looked devastated.

He obviously underestimated the stupidity of the British electorate.

Idolovemydog · 14/06/2026 11:48

EUmumforever · 14/06/2026 11:32

They should be tried for treason, and one day the details of how they sold their country will come to light, I am sure

This .

Gkei737djdh · 14/06/2026 11:45

I’d like the Farage lovers to lay out exactly/credibly how we’re supposed to compete with China and the USA economically and how we’re supposed to defend ourselves against the entire world military wise as a teeny tiny island on our lonesome hugely worse off financially because of Brexit. Never once do they reply or verbalise any type of plan. Funny that. Sucking up to the US and being reliant on their whim doesn’t seem much of a plan. It’s about all Farage and co have ever come up with.

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TeaPot496 · 14/06/2026 11:39

After the Brexit result, Johnson's face was ashen, ASHEN I tell you. Looked devastated.

TeaPot496 · 14/06/2026 11:38

Oh god I forgot Farage was so much behind Brexit. How could I? So that's why the hard of thinking are wetting their knickers in excitement over Reform.

TheAutumnCrow · 14/06/2026 11:35

Thanks, @Gkei737djdh - I’ve signed up to the Independent’s ‘Europe - the Way Back’ to see what David Maddox and Millie Cooke have to say.

I vaguely know David (good egg) and was getting worried he was heading a bit brexitty tbh so I’ll be watching this with great interest!

I want the UK to find an economic way back that doesn’t lead to us having to adopt even more of the crazy political genderwoo that still persists throughout many politicised structures and our own ridiculous political classes. That’s the last thing we need.

Honestly, I’d bring back Disraeli at this point.