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Boris, Farage and Gove re Brexit-“Never have so few done so much damage to so many with so little ability to execute what they lied about.”

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Gkei737djdh · 14/06/2026 11:19

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

All so silent. They should hang their heads in shame, surely be publicly be made to take ownership for what they did and be held to account.Cowards, the lot of them.

And surely it’s time we tried to right the wrongs of Brexit.

Heseltine: It’s time to reverse Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage’s Brexit ‘crime’

Exclusive: In a stinging attack on Brexiteers, Michael Heseltine says the British public has been conned

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

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SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:37

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 16:36

An unmitigated disaster for fishermen in Devon and Cornwall. Looe fish market was closed, so they had to take it to Plymouth. Plymouth fish market closed, so they had to take it to Brixham.

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Spread the love.

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 16:36

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:29

All those meetings he attended. His tireless advocacy for British fishermen.

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An unmitigated disaster for fishermen in Devon and Cornwall. Looe fish market was closed, so they had to take it to Plymouth. Plymouth fish market closed, so they had to take it to Brixham.

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:29

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:11

I disagree with Farage but he definitely deserves his EU pension as he worked as an MEP for 20 years. And he shouldn't be barred because he's not committed any crime.

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All those meetings he attended. His tireless advocacy for British fishermen.

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:28

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:09

So in your logic, we wouldn’t of felt no ill effects from the world crisis if we would have stayed in the EU, is that what you’re suggesting?

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read what I wrote and then see if you can discern what I was saying. Which isn't your precis.

(Little hint: saying "if this, then that" is not the same as saying "if not this, then not that". If someone can grasp that, then a long career in coding lies ahead ....)

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:15

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:15

If the company is still exporting, it’s still selling its products, it must take hours to fill in those forms, the same ones time after time, come on

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Yes which add hassle costs to the business

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:15

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:12

Which makes things more expensive........

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If the company is still exporting, it’s still selling its products, it must take hours to fill in those forms, the same ones time after time, come on

MaxTalk · 19/06/2026 16:12

randomchap · 19/06/2026 15:30

And your solution is?

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Be pro business, cut the benefit culture and get people working. No need to be on benefits unless you have a real need.

The UK seems like quite a lethargic place these days. And Labour are making it worse.

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:12

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:11

That is now in the cost of the product and would have been for some time and it should all be second nature by now, what import duty?

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Which makes things more expensive........

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:11

Pedallleur · 19/06/2026 16:04

He made that awful speech to the EU, crowing about leaving (got his EU pension tho). The EU should have revoked entry for him to any of those member states.

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I disagree with Farage but he definitely deserves his EU pension as he worked as an MEP for 20 years. And he shouldn't be barred because he's not committed any crime.

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:11

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:06

I mean .there's still costs to do with the paperwork and the import duties they have to pay

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That is now in the cost of the product and would have been for some time and it should all be second nature by now, what import duty?

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:09

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 12:01

Yes, how can they strip out the effects of COVID, the whole world shutting down, then the after opening up the dramatic rise in inflation, the war in Ukraine and the dramatic rise in energy prices, yet again causing inflation, more recently the Iran war with fuel and energy prices rising,

Why strip them out ? Unless you aren't very good with data. Much easier to remember that as global occurrences (like rain) they fell equally across all nations.

But frankly people who try to hide Brexit behind "global events" rather seems to forget that one of the warnings of "project fear" was that in the even of a global crisis, it would leave the UK at much more risk.

So trying to say "you can't say Brexit failed because of global events" is really a different way of saying "You know what we were warned about ? Well it happened. Sorry".

So in your logic, we wouldn’t of felt no ill effects from the world crisis if we would have stayed in the EU, is that what you’re suggesting?

cookbookjunkie · 19/06/2026 16:07

Tonissister · 14/06/2026 12:08

Or naive and trusting. I know NHS nurses who voted for Brexit because they believed the lies plastered on Boris's buses.

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Explain the lie please. How/why was it a lie?

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:06

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:04

Surely any company that exports to the EU will by now be used to the different rules and regulations, any new company will not know any different, Tariff free trading

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I mean .there's still costs to do with the paperwork and the import duties they have to pay

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:04

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 12:54

Trade frictions with the EU can't help?

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Surely any company that exports to the EU will by now be used to the different rules and regulations, any new company will not know any different, Tariff free trading

Pedallleur · 19/06/2026 16:04

TeaPot496 · 14/06/2026 11:38

Oh god I forgot Farage was so much behind Brexit. How could I? So that's why the hard of thinking are wetting their knickers in excitement over Reform.

He made that awful speech to the EU, crowing about leaving (got his EU pension tho). The EU should have revoked entry for him to any of those member states.

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:03

There are bits and pieces..small things for people who didn't export and got deregulation. Some VAT cuts.

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:01

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 12:01

Is this another version of 'we had enough of experts'?

How is that going?

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So are you telling me experts are always right and you blindly believe everything they say even though they have been proved wrong in the past and might have agenda

randomchap · 19/06/2026 16:00

Unphased · 19/06/2026 15:58

What are you waiting for?

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Some kind of tangible Brexit benefit.

Unphased · 19/06/2026 15:58

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 11:59

How long do we have to wait? 10 years in and counting.

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What are you waiting for?

randomchap · 19/06/2026 15:30

MaxTalk · 19/06/2026 14:21

The UK is a weak country and Labour is weakening it further. Brexit is/was a total shambles.

And your solution is?

MaxTalk · 19/06/2026 14:21

The UK is a weak country and Labour is weakening it further. Brexit is/was a total shambles.

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 14:16

How does trade frictions with the EU help?

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 13:51

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 13:33

No, I mean you will find fault with it as in not accepting it.

I remember the times you used to diss people simply because they had foreign names or were pro EU

So where are all those 10 year Brexit anniversary celebrations?

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No, I mean you will find fault with it as in not accepting it.

Not quite sure where you are going to find all these peer reviews you seem reluctant to share. There is a note on the paper;

NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies official NBER publications.

I remember the times you used to diss people simply because they had foreign names or were pro EU

In fact, I resisted the urge to point out that several of the authors of the NBER study are linked to the Deutsche Bundesbank and have foreign-sounding names. Grin

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 13:33

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 13:28

You will find fault with it

You mean you can't find any other peer reviews for the NBER study.

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No, I mean you will find fault with it as in not accepting it.

I remember the times you used to diss people simply because they had foreign names or were pro EU

So where are all those 10 year Brexit anniversary celebrations?

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 13:28

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 13:24

You will find fault with it.

There is so much evidence that points to the damage that Brexit has caused, and almost nothng that say different.

Where are the brexiteers celebrating 10 years of brexit benefits?

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You will find fault with it

You mean you can't find any other peer reviews for the NBER study.