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AIBU to think that geography is not the big differentiator people think on here?

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MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 10:07

Just seen a post on another thread where someone explains their behaviour at kids parties by saying something like "Of course, I live in a town, not a city, where behaviour is very different."

I also remember someone saying "But then I'm Welsh, and we love our Mams very much "

And people explaining why they leave their front doors unlocked "as I live in a village."

AIBU to think that none of these things are dependent on geography and you can behave at a party, love your mum or leave you door locked or unlocked wherever you live?

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Owninterpreter · 14/06/2026 12:21

I know what you are getting at op. A distant in- law that I have to see at lots of family events starts a lot of things with 'well im from Yorkshire and we ....' then describes something really common across most places ive lived but makes out its a special unique view on stuff. My
friends mum is from Yorkshire and she does the exact same thing. Actually now ive typed tgar, Maybe there is a regional thing after all. That Yorkshire people like to tell you :)

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 14/06/2026 12:20

Thepeopleversuswork · 14/06/2026 12:06

Of course but the point the OP is making is that people often overstate the importance of these differences as if they were the only relevant factor.

She’s not saying they don’t exist or matter at all, only that they are overemphasised.

I think its important as well: we live in an increasingly polarised and fractured society at the moment, we should challenge assumptions that people are radically different from us purely because of where they grew up. We need to function as a community, telling people how different they are all the time doesn’t help.

God knows there is enough pressure on people to put up barriers to others at the moment, let’s at least interrogate whether the alleged difference is real or confected to make an argument.

But most people posting aren't bashing out an essay on the geosocial profile of their area. They're just remarking why they are leaving the door unlocked etc.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 14/06/2026 12:19

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 10:56

No, I'm not changing the parameters of the question like you suggest.

I didn't have kids in every place I've lived. But the example given in the other thread was around "the expectation of whether or not parents would stay at a nursery party" and the poster's sense that this would alter "whether you lived in a town or a city". Having lived in both towns and cities, I call bullshit. This will depend entirely on the friendship group involved, not geography.

Also, I have always locked the doors wherever I have lived. This again says more about the individual than where they live. Of course, crime rates differ in different places, but you can get burgled anywhere.

Our house in an urban area is less likely to be burgled because our front there's a busy road and out of the back they'd have to hop fences on all sides.

My parents' house is five miles from the nearest village, up some 30% inclines. Somes days even THEY can't get to their house, let alone a thief. People whose job it is to deliver things can't always get to the house and can't always find their way back (it's a private road with lots of gates).

It's really rather silly to say that the geography doesn't affect this.

The area I grew up is also a popular national park. That meant lots of visitors, a real boost to the local economy and also nightlife - you even get celebs in the local clubs who fancy a dance. That's a very different reality to someone who grew up in a small no mark village five miles from the next no mark village, fifteen miles from the market town and fifty miles from a city. It also affects who lives there - lots of locals in ordinary jobs, but also lots of relocators who came to live in a beautiful area. Much more affluent than your average rural area.

All of that is geography.

SomeGarlic · 14/06/2026 12:17

WaryCrow · 14/06/2026 11:34

Sorry op, but to be blunt you’re talking rubbish. Geography is the absolute determinant of human civilization, through history and across the globe. Even now, despite what people think, if tech takes on the Atlantic Ocean my money is on the ocean. Mother Earth (or Ocean) will win every time.

Ed - and culture matters.

Edited

Oh, please have a read of Francis Pryor's The Making of the British Landscape: How We Have Transformed the Land, from Prehistory to Today!

Geography doesn't determine human development, humans develop the land to suit our purposes. He's a wonderful writer. He does have a lot to say about cultural practises and how they vary, over time and also by place.

Thepeopleversuswork · 14/06/2026 12:06

Littletreefrog · 14/06/2026 11:56

They are unlikely to list every differentiator though are they? That wouldn't be usual in casual conversation. I think you are reading far too much into the comments you are refering to. They are not meant as an in-depth review of the reason for the behavioural differences between different groups of people which are obviously affected by a multitude of factors. They are meant as a throw away comment (as you have identified yourself) and should be treated as such.

Of course but the point the OP is making is that people often overstate the importance of these differences as if they were the only relevant factor.

She’s not saying they don’t exist or matter at all, only that they are overemphasised.

I think its important as well: we live in an increasingly polarised and fractured society at the moment, we should challenge assumptions that people are radically different from us purely because of where they grew up. We need to function as a community, telling people how different they are all the time doesn’t help.

God knows there is enough pressure on people to put up barriers to others at the moment, let’s at least interrogate whether the alleged difference is real or confected to make an argument.

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 12:04

BoredZelda · 14/06/2026 12:01

Point is, a friendship group is more likely to exist in a smaller village setting, but there is also a “local gossip element”. If you are the only parent who drops and runs at a party and you refuse to socialise, the impact of this in a village is greater than if you are in a town. You will hear about it very quickly if you do something others deem problematic if you live in a village, than you will if you live in a town.

Here we go.

"A friendship group is more likely to exist in a smaller village setting."

You think people who live in cities don't have... friends?

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ERthree · 14/06/2026 12:01

Having lived the length and breadth of our nation i can assure Geography plays a huge part. If you have, say spent your life in the S.E of England you will not recognise much in N.W Sutherland and vice versa although in they will have more of a general idea as our media is very London centric. Locations affect outlooks.

BoredZelda · 14/06/2026 12:01

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 10:56

No, I'm not changing the parameters of the question like you suggest.

I didn't have kids in every place I've lived. But the example given in the other thread was around "the expectation of whether or not parents would stay at a nursery party" and the poster's sense that this would alter "whether you lived in a town or a city". Having lived in both towns and cities, I call bullshit. This will depend entirely on the friendship group involved, not geography.

Also, I have always locked the doors wherever I have lived. This again says more about the individual than where they live. Of course, crime rates differ in different places, but you can get burgled anywhere.

Point is, a friendship group is more likely to exist in a smaller village setting, but there is also a “local gossip element”. If you are the only parent who drops and runs at a party and you refuse to socialise, the impact of this in a village is greater than if you are in a town. You will hear about it very quickly if you do something others deem problematic if you live in a village, than you will if you live in a town.

Littletreefrog · 14/06/2026 11:56

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:53

Who said it was the only differentiator?

The people I referred in my very first post. Anyone who explains their behaviour by saying something like "because I live in a village."

They are unlikely to list every differentiator though are they? That wouldn't be usual in casual conversation. I think you are reading far too much into the comments you are refering to. They are not meant as an in-depth review of the reason for the behavioural differences between different groups of people which are obviously affected by a multitude of factors. They are meant as a throw away comment (as you have identified yourself) and should be treated as such.

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:55

WaryCrow · 14/06/2026 11:53

Maybe write a better op that talks about culture if you mean culture rather than geography?

Geography is the study of culture as much as it is the study of rivers.

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MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:53

angelikacpickles · 14/06/2026 11:49

Who said it was the only differentiator though? It can be one factor of many.

Who said it was the only differentiator?

The people I referred in my very first post. Anyone who explains their behaviour by saying something like "because I live in a village."

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WaryCrow · 14/06/2026 11:53

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:37

Maybe read the thread? 🤔

Maybe write a better op that talks about culture if you mean culture rather than geography?

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:51

Littletreefrog · 14/06/2026 11:46

Why are you so fixated on this throw away comment? People say odd things or things you don't agree with. It doesn't mean your proposition that geography never has anything to do with how people behave is correct

You're misrepresenting the point. I haven't said geography "never" has an impact.

As above, I am specifically referring to when people conflate their personal circumstances with their geography and suggest that it's the only differentiator, beyond class/family set up/personality etc.

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Thepeopleversuswork · 14/06/2026 11:50

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:42

This is the kind of silly othering I mean.

"Just a normal small town."

Why is the large town and/or city you refer to not "normal"?

Completely agree with you about the "othering", it's very frustrating.

The comment that "people are more wary and you’re less likely to make any friends" in cities is a classic of the genre.

I've lived in big cities, medium-sized towns and rurally and I find cities much easier to make friends in because in my experience people in cities are less likely to have been to school with everyone else, they are more open to people with different backgrounds and there is less intrusion.

But this is my subjective experience based in large part on my personality, I don't expect everyone to agree.

Geography can shape people but it's just as likely to be the other way around: ie people choose their location based on their personality.

HideousKinky · 14/06/2026 11:50

The mum comment is absurd, the rest might have some substance

angelikacpickles · 14/06/2026 11:49

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:48

I'm really not trying to argue that geography doesn't exist!

I am specifically referring to when people conflate their personal circumstances with their geography and suggest that it's the only differentiator, beyond class/family set up/personality etc.

Who said it was the only differentiator though? It can be one factor of many.

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:48

WonderingWanda · 14/06/2026 11:44

As a geography teacher I am going to say you are wrong. Although, I agree the examples given are not really down yo geographical factors but more culture abd personal experience.

Climate, topography, economic opportunities, decline of traditional industries, regeneration, spatial patterns of urbanisation, deindustrialisation, declining tourism, transport networks will all influence human behaviour.

I'm really not trying to argue that geography doesn't exist!

I am specifically referring to when people conflate their personal circumstances with their geography and suggest that it's the only differentiator, beyond class/family set up/personality etc.

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angelikacpickles · 14/06/2026 11:48

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:44

It was a throwaway comment on here, but illustrates the unspoken assumptions many people have about their own and others' lives, like "just a normal small town" above.

But you are literally repeating it in response to every post disagreeing with you. Everybody else agrees that this is not a thing so it doesn't really show the "unspoken assumptions many people have" - it shows the very odd assumption that one single individual had.

Littletreefrog · 14/06/2026 11:46

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:44

It was a throwaway comment on here, but illustrates the unspoken assumptions many people have about their own and others' lives, like "just a normal small town" above.

Why are you so fixated on this throw away comment? People say odd things or things you don't agree with. It doesn't mean your proposition that geography never has anything to do with how people behave is correct

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:44

angelikacpickles · 14/06/2026 11:41

I don't think a single person has agreed that Welsh people love their mothers more. You seem fixated on this particular comment. Have multiple people said this to you or is it possible that it was just one strange person?

It was a throwaway comment on here, but illustrates the unspoken assumptions many people have about their own and others' lives, like "just a normal small town" above.

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Ibi · 14/06/2026 11:44

Also, I’ve never heard of Welsh people loving their mothers more than any other countries and I have a Welsh mum!!

WonderingWanda · 14/06/2026 11:44

As a geography teacher I am going to say you are wrong. Although, I agree the examples given are not really down yo geographical factors but more culture abd personal experience.

Climate, topography, economic opportunities, decline of traditional industries, regeneration, spatial patterns of urbanisation, deindustrialisation, declining tourism, transport networks will all influence human behaviour.

Ibi · 14/06/2026 11:43

I’ve lived in quite a few different countries and geographical locations within countries and I do think that geography and culture play a big part. In London people tend not to dress up as much as other cities in the UK for example. Whether you get offered food and drink at someone’s house varies on geography and culture. I’ve noticed strangers speak to you more on public transport in more rural areas than they do on the tube.

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:42

the80sweregreat · 14/06/2026 11:40

Agree that city living can be difficult. People are more wary and you’re less likely to make any friends.
Ds2 lived in a large town for a few years and only one lovely neighbour spoke to him the whole time he was there.
The parking was tricky , the place was noisy day and night and it could get rowdy. I know I couldn’t cope living in a big city like he did, but he liked the vibe and it did have some decent shops and a large leisure centre on his door step. I found it alien and I don’t live anywhere rural , just a normal small town that probably isn’t as safe as it used to be and has anti social attitudes and its problems too.

This is the kind of silly othering I mean.

"Just a normal small town."

Why is the large town and/or city you refer to not "normal"?

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angelikacpickles · 14/06/2026 11:41

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 11:30

Then that's the correct way to frame it, not "because I'm Welsh, I love my mum."

I don't think a single person has agreed that Welsh people love their mothers more. You seem fixated on this particular comment. Have multiple people said this to you or is it possible that it was just one strange person?