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to think older age is no excuse for sexism, racism and misogyny?

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taaay · 13/06/2026 17:30

I have several older family members (75+) who frequently make comments that I find quite offensive.

Examples include saying that women do not cook these days, that children are badly behaved because mothers rush back to work, making negative comments about non white doctors, nurses and hospital staff, and suggesting that a husband leaving his wife is understandable if she gained weight after having children or did not give him enough attention.

Whenever these views are challenged, the response is usually along the lines of "it's their generation" or "they are old fashioned".

I understand that attitudes were different decades ago, but I struggle with the idea that age somehow excuses prejudice. Plenty of people from the same generation manage to treat women and people from different backgrounds with respect.

I am not expecting everyone to have the same opinions, but I do think there is a difference between having traditional views and making derogatory comments about women or other groups of people.

AIBU to think that being elderly explains where some of these attitudes came from, but does not excuse them?

OP posts:
taaay · 14/06/2026 11:24

Simonjt · 14/06/2026 09:19

What your cousin was actually saying is “I’m racist too”

In defending her mother, she was supporting racism. I agree.

OP posts:
Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 09:56

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 14/06/2026 09:34

The whole point of the OP's thread was that some people use age to excuse racist/misogynist comments made by older people. As if they somehow can't help it because racism and misogyny are just the norm for their generation.

She stated that age should not be regarded as an excuse for offensive comments because many older people of the same age are NOT racist or misogynist.

There is nothing remotely ageist in saying that older people should be held to account for their racist and misogynist comments in exactly the same way that younger people should be held to account for the same. It IS ageist to suggest that being old automatically makes you racist or misogynist.

Okay so can they ‘hold you to account’ if you have views then don’t believe in?

Tauranga · 14/06/2026 09:35

taaay · 13/06/2026 17:30

I have several older family members (75+) who frequently make comments that I find quite offensive.

Examples include saying that women do not cook these days, that children are badly behaved because mothers rush back to work, making negative comments about non white doctors, nurses and hospital staff, and suggesting that a husband leaving his wife is understandable if she gained weight after having children or did not give him enough attention.

Whenever these views are challenged, the response is usually along the lines of "it's their generation" or "they are old fashioned".

I understand that attitudes were different decades ago, but I struggle with the idea that age somehow excuses prejudice. Plenty of people from the same generation manage to treat women and people from different backgrounds with respect.

I am not expecting everyone to have the same opinions, but I do think there is a difference between having traditional views and making derogatory comments about women or other groups of people.

AIBU to think that being elderly explains where some of these attitudes came from, but does not excuse them?

Maybe they are correct?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 14/06/2026 09:34

The whole point of the OP's thread was that some people use age to excuse racist/misogynist comments made by older people. As if they somehow can't help it because racism and misogyny are just the norm for their generation.

She stated that age should not be regarded as an excuse for offensive comments because many older people of the same age are NOT racist or misogynist.

There is nothing remotely ageist in saying that older people should be held to account for their racist and misogynist comments in exactly the same way that younger people should be held to account for the same. It IS ageist to suggest that being old automatically makes you racist or misogynist.

Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 09:24

Simonjt · 14/06/2026 09:19

What your cousin was actually saying is “I’m racist too”

Depends how the poster ‘spoke up’.

The fact the cousin came ‘rushing in’ implies it wasn’t in a normal conversational tone. If anyone had a go at my mother even if she was in the wrong. I would have done the same

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/06/2026 09:23

I have an aunt like that. You can’t change her.
My father would have been brought up close minded, making “jokes” non funny jokes, he grew out of it as we wouldn’t tolerate him being a twat once we became teenagers.
So many people have fell out with my aunt. I tell her she’s disgusting, she will knuckle down, it’s a badge of honour for her.
I usually tell her to zip it if she starts, debating with her will encourage her.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 14/06/2026 09:22

PerfumedPomegrante · 14/06/2026 09:14

Well then, she should just have said "some people."

It seems that you have missed the entire point of the thread. Never mind.

Simonjt · 14/06/2026 09:19

taaay · 13/06/2026 17:34

Plenty of people make age as an excuse. My aunt was being racist and I spoke up. My cousin/her daughter came rushing in saying she can't help it.

What your cousin was actually saying is “I’m racist too”

Dontlletmedownbruce · 14/06/2026 09:18

Anarchy99 · 13/06/2026 18:15

I don’t think people get more right wing as they get older, I think they no longer give a fuck about what people think of their opinion.

So true!!

My Dad is getting on now, mid 80s. He worked in the community, would have dealt many newly arrived immigrants over the years. He also was very ambitious for his daughters. I have noticed he remains very open about different cultures and extremely intolerant of racism. However I've seen sexism creep in, the mask has slipped there. Little things like demeaning our jobs but talking up DH and BILs work. Assuming an upset woman is being irrational, saying when women talk they are having a gossip. That kind of thing.

taaay · 14/06/2026 09:16

PerfumedPomegrante · 14/06/2026 09:14

Well then, she should just have said "some people."

I was talking about my relatives. Try reading the OP.

For other people who struggle to read:

I DO NOT MEAN ALL OLDER PEOPLE.

OP posts:
PerfumedPomegrante · 14/06/2026 09:14

Getmeacoffeenow · 13/06/2026 17:39

OP is not being ageist, OP is not saying all
elderly people are like this.

Well then, she should just have said "some people."

taaay · 14/06/2026 09:10

HoraceCope · 14/06/2026 08:52

there are racists in every age group

No one is denying that.

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LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 09:02

Anarchy99 · 13/06/2026 18:15

I don’t think people get more right wing as they get older, I think they no longer give a fuck about what people think of their opinion.

You are absolutely bang on. They certainly laugh at being called far right.

HoraceCope · 14/06/2026 08:52

there are racists in every age group

taaay · 14/06/2026 08:50

LilacDrift · 13/06/2026 22:45

Didn't see many over 70s burning houses down at the recent riots.

You understood this thread perfectly. Well done 👏

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Deadleaves77 · 13/06/2026 22:53

OhBumBags · 13/06/2026 17:42

Ok but many people of all ages everywhere are racist and sexist, so I'm not quite sure why you've made this thread about elderly people in particular?

For every elderly racist/sexist bigot, you'll find just as many younger ones.

I take it your cousin isn't elderly and yet there they were making excuses, so therefore being just as bad.

She's made s thread about people using age as an excuse. That's not agism

Op isn't saying all old people are racist/sexist, or that okly old people are racust/sexist. She's not saying its an age thing. She's specifically talking about her relatives who use age as an excuse to get away with bigotry

LilacDrift · 13/06/2026 22:45

Didn't see many over 70s burning houses down at the recent riots.

Pistachiocake · 13/06/2026 22:42

AgnesMcDoo · 13/06/2026 17:35

complaining about prejudice by starting an ageist thread 😳

you are just as bad as them

Exactly, wasn't sure if the poster was waiting until everyone did an ageist pile on before pointing it out.
We can't help when we're born! One of the loveliest old women in our town, who used to be very welcoming to us-including gay members of our community- used terms that might now be called racist or homophobic, but that's because they were the polite, progressive terms then-it's no more something she should be judged for that still thinking everyone has landlines.
In my lifetime, terms such as "queer" have changed in meaning and acceptability, and if I live long enough to start showing signs of dementia, I might use terms deemed unacceptable today-and so will you,

ChalkOutlines · 13/06/2026 22:38

JustGiveMeReason · 13/06/2026 22:33

Difficult to know how to vote, as obviously

YANBU in that using your age as an excuse to be downright rude, let alone racist is obviously wrong.

But YABU (and ageist!) to imply that being elderly explains where some of these attitudes came from . It's not 75 yr olds and their elders I'm seeing on the news standing outside hotels, threatening people.

There are - unfortunately - racists, misogynists, sexists, ageists, and homophobes in every age group.

OP’s whole point is that indeed it doesn’t excuse it or explain it. So people should stop using it. You’ll see it on here in the dozens whenever there’s a thread about an older person displaying these behaviours. They’re the ageist ones. Not OP.

JustGiveMeReason · 13/06/2026 22:33

Difficult to know how to vote, as obviously

YANBU in that using your age as an excuse to be downright rude, let alone racist is obviously wrong.

But YABU (and ageist!) to imply that being elderly explains where some of these attitudes came from . It's not 75 yr olds and their elders I'm seeing on the news standing outside hotels, threatening people.

There are - unfortunately - racists, misogynists, sexists, ageists, and homophobes in every age group.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/06/2026 21:23

Rhaidimiddim · 13/06/2026 18:02

Your second paragraph - in any demograpic you could find a percentage of members who'd think the same. At least the older folks have got life experience to draw on to justify their attitudes, because they have a comparator.

You sound ageist.

And you sound like an apologist for racism, sexism and misogyny. Having 'life experience' doesn't justify those hideous attitudes.

LuckyHazelFox · 13/06/2026 21:21

Fillies4DeclanRice · 13/06/2026 17:47

I suppose it's been a few minutes since we've had a thread which serves no other purpose than the OP telling the world she's not prejudiced .. while saying something prejudiced

I've never known a forum so obsessed with seeing racism and misogyny around every corner. The times I've seen hints at bots when all I see are more dodgy I am better than you threads over and over.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/06/2026 21:15

AgnesMcDoo · 13/06/2026 17:35

complaining about prejudice by starting an ageist thread 😳

you are just as bad as them

Of course she isn't. She is talking specifically about her own family members who are old and making unpleasant comments about women and non-white hospital staff.

If she had said that all old people are prejudiced, that would be ageist but she didn't say that.

ChalkOutlines · 13/06/2026 21:09

AgnesMcDoo · 13/06/2026 17:35

complaining about prejudice by starting an ageist thread 😳

you are just as bad as them

How is it ageist?

ChalkOutlines · 13/06/2026 21:08

Rhaidimiddim · 13/06/2026 18:07

And generalising from anecdote.

If I were to wonder if all people your age are as dim as you.....

Except OP didn’t generalise. In fact , she specifically said that she knows that not all older people speak and act like that , so age isn’t an excuse . That’s her whole point.

Who’s the dim one now?