Holidays are just not worth the money

Whilst planning for your future is sensible it’s also important to enjoy life and have fun. For me holidays are one of the things I work hard to be able to afford as the enjoyment they give to me and my family is huge. Also it good to take a break from work/daily life and relax/focus on spending time together/have fun and experience different things. I believe that this is important for my well being and for my children’s wellbeing/development.

Literally nobody's preaching to anyone about flying on this thread love. You just manufactured an argument out of thin air.

By the way, got any sources for your assertion that buying stuff on Amazon is more harmful for the environment than flying?

Have you looked at the direct websites for the country you're visiting, often much cheaper. Eurocamp.fr, Eurocamp.de etc.

I feel no guilt whatsoever. Cargo ships create more emissions annually than the entire aviation industry.

Families would have more of an impact on climate change if they stopped using Amazon and only shopped locally buying British made products than by cutting down their flying.

The UK contributes 0.8% of global emissions. Even if the UK met their net zero target, the world will still get hotter whilst China, the US and India refuse to limit their emissions.

What I can’t stand is holier than though people preaching to others about their choices that make no difference at all to climate change.

@BlackRowan They are considerably cheaper.

I like your style!

How can I get stuck on holidays???

#askingforafriend 🤣🤣✈️✈️💯💯

We do a 3 bed cabin. Can be as cheap as chips! We did a cabin for a week in September about 3 years ago for 275. Then flights were about 1k for the 5 of us.
But typically we'd expect to spend about 1k per week for a 3 bed cabin.

Our flight was cancelled today due to the airport strikes in Italy. Instead of going through the hassle of trying to find different flights/airports, we just extended the holiday by 3 days. I love holidays!

I’d misunderstood and thought OP was spending £500 a day on top of the £3000 holiday cost. OP clarified this.

thanks though

Look. Fly or don't fly. I'm not going to tell anybody what to do. Fill your boots. You're obviously feeling a bit guilty though, because you got very defensive with someone who wasn't even talking to you.

But for fuck's sake just stop using asinine excuses that you think are clever but obviously haven't taken a nanosecond to think through properly.

You can just say you don’t like holidays…

We get, if we are lucky, 18 summers with our children before they've fledged and left to live their own lives.

I'd far rather take a trip and immerse them in another culture and enrich their lives than buy another "thing" that will hold their interest for a few months before probably being sent to a charity shop.

See the world through their eyes. Give them experiences and the memories will last a lifetime, for both of you.

Someone of the Facebook thread said tell them how much stuff they could have for the price of the holiday but, while it works for some things (I.e. the stated Easter eggs), you absolutely cannot compare the experiences of being on holiday with a
another dust-gatherimg possession.

We never went on holiday as kids as my mum never liked to go away. I really wish we had.

Do you put aside a monthly saving over the year ie £375? Or credit card it and pay off..? Hope not too personal an ask but always interested in the different ways people cover the big treats in life :)

Individual families choosing to not fly on holiday is not going to do anything to impact global warming.

Me being vegetarian for the past 35 years hasn’t stopped the world getting hotter either.

China alone contributes 30% of the world’s carbon emissions, add in India and the US and you’re up to 50% of the world’s emissions.

If you’re not flying in order to save the planet I assume you’re also not buying anything that arrives in this country on a cargo ship or flight?

Well the flights, hotel, transfers, food, spends
seems totally reasonable to me

Of all the senseless unthinking arguments against climate responsibility, this one is my favourite, along with "What would happen to all the cows if we didn't eat them?" 😆

If people stop filling plane seats, the planes stop flying. HTH.

I suppose it depends on where you're starting from and where you go. We've just stayed in a cottage in Cornwall for half term - shared pool and tennis court, private hot tub, 4 bedrooms (slept 7), 1 mile from beach - that was about £1700 for the week. We also have a (decrepit) camper van and decent tent, both of which we took to France last year - a week on a 5* campsite in the summer hols was about £1100 (and that's steep for France). We've also had v good value holidays at Centre Parcs in Belgium, with day trips to Bruges and Ghent. But we start from the south east, so the ferry and chunnel are both decent options.

If you are looking for flights and all inclusive, well, that's a different matter...

So true! This kind of individualistic thinking is exactly what will save us all. And you're absolutely bang on that there would be no correlation between consumer demand and the number of flights. I think that's why the number of flights has remained really consistent since the 60s, because the airlines fly what they fly and if they're empty because people starting caring about their emissions, they'll fly anyway!

I think I'll just throw my next empty packet of crisps directly on the ground, or maybe directly into the throat of a sea bird because my neighbour doesn't recycle.

Indeed, that poster doesn’t even know the pension situation of the family, we have excellent pensions, it would be ludicrous to deny ourselves experiences now just to make our pensions even bigger, not reasonable advice at all.

The flights that me and my family are flying on this year will be flying regardless of whether we’re sat on them or not.

Not to mention the fact that until China, the US and India curb their emissions, there is very little point in a family not flying on holiday a few times a year in order to save the planet.

Easier with young kids. I like to get out and about but with young kids is just not as fun 😢
So I have now pool & sun holidays and “out & about” authentic holidays

I personally consider an annual holiday an important part of my DC's well being and social development.
Being away from home means you are less likely to be distracted by jobs around the house. In other words you are more likely to give DC more of your time.
I think that our expectations are so much higher though these days

For example, when my dc were young we did not go abroad (could not afford it), and went away for one week during the summer.
Nowadays, many families expect to go abroad on an all inclusive and more than once during the year.
Cheapest holiday i did, (when DH lost his job, so very little money), was a borrowed tent and sleeping bags, and 2 weeks camping, (UK), which I did by myself because DH had job interviews during the week.
The DC had great fun, at ages 5, 8 and 10, were old enough to muck in.
Ok, camping is not for everyone, but there are many self catering options around the UK, in many diverse areas.

That’s fair. I don’t think they are 1/10 of Eurocamp though unless you camp. Not everyone’s idea of holiday is camping, I’d rather stay home for example