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Why does my daughter’s father say this kind of stuff?

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MyTrivia · 13/06/2026 00:13

He’s so embarrassing. He seems to rub people up the wrong way. And then complain that coworkers don’t support him etc.

Sometimes, when I meet dd from school he turns up at the same time. The other day there was a mum there that I was taking to. She was asking how my dd was now because she had been being bullied.

Then I asked her how her dc was.
‘oh ok, she said but he’s not enjoying maths. He finds it hard’.

DDs dad pipes up ‘oh you should find him a tutor. I have noticed how maths affects the entire curriculum if a child is struggling ’. The kids are only 6 years old!

Why is he so obnoxious? If I try to talk to him about his attitude, it always ends in a big argument. We aren’t together btw.

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MyCottageGarden · 17/06/2026 02:28

IMTHECRAZYOLDLADY · 13/06/2026 18:53

Doesn’t sound socially awkward to me, sounds like a narcissist, he makes jokes at your expense? He knows exactly what he’s doing

Narcissist because he’s socially awkward?!?! WTF??? Do you even understand the definition of narcissistic personality disorder?

mammat72 · 17/06/2026 00:39

i dont think what he said was that bad, but you say you are autistic so there is a good chance your ex is add or adhd as these personality types tend to get together. that would explain why he seems to say blurt out things you see as inapropriate

saraclara · 16/06/2026 11:18

There's nothing wrong with his suggestion, but interpretation of that kind of conversation depends entirely on tone, facial expression and body language. We weren't there to see any of that. Did the parent show any signs of being offended?

Tillow4ever · 16/06/2026 11:13

MyTrivia · 15/06/2026 02:07

Why would you ‘assume’ anything? This is something I see all the time on MN these days ‘it’s your fault you have a child with someone who turned out not to be the man you thought’.

He spent years messing me about. I loved him in the beginning. He has his good points. But he will not and cannot self reflect. For quite some time whilst I was with him he was also with someone else. I didn’t know about it until after our daughter was born.

I guess they’d assume that because the alternative is you chose to have a child with someone you didn’t think was good father material. Which reflects on you and your decision making. Whereas assuming you thought he’d be a good father is giving you the benefit of the doubt.

You are getting too involved. He’s your ex. Conversations with him only need to be about your shared child. Shut down any other topic. If he’s got no friends to go to, he can pay for a therapist. Or reflect on why he has no friends and take steps to remedy that. It’s not for you to fix him or be there for him. Ask him not to turn up at school on your days. He should only be going there if he’s picking your daughter up for his time with her, or if there’s a school event on that he’s going to see.

As for the other mum, if you’re worried he’s offended her and don’t want it to reflect on you, next time you see her say something like “sorry about Nigel the other day. I think you can now see why he’s an ex!” and give a little laugh. That way she’ll know it’s not your opinion that her son needs a tutor, and you’ll make it clear you two aren’t together. I’m sure she’s unlikely to have given it a second thought though!

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 16/06/2026 09:21

MyTrivia · 15/06/2026 09:38

Yes, I understand what you mean - sorry, I didnt take enough time to see where you were coming from.

But the thing is, I’m not the one who’s miserable because I’ve pushed everyone away like he has. He’s a very good looking man with literally no friends. He does the same things again and again and then uses me as a sounding board to explain how sad he is.

He has alienated a work colleague who is actually his superior by getting drunk at a work event and saying something rude to him. The man was nothing but kind to him until this happened and now he ignores him. He’s going on a business trip today and is now stressing about the fact that he’s been asked to check in with this guy on arrival.

I just get frustrated - he comes crying to me about all this stuff but won’t accept well intentioned direction about how to make his life better.

i think that if the child’s mum at school was upset, she probably wouldn’t say so.

Hi @MyTrivia

It sounds like your ex treated you very badly - he messed you about early on, and was seeing someone whilst with you which you only discovered after you had your daughter.

It also sounds like he's pretty unpleasant to most/all people in his life (eg current supervisor) and random people he comes across (eg mum at school gate), hence he has no friends.

Not your problem.

He also won't listen to any advice you give him.

Not your problem.

So why do you let him "come crying to you"?
Just don't engage with it.
Don't give him any more advice.
Don't be his "sounding board".

You only need to communicate with him regarding the care of your daughter.
Anything else - just shut it down, don't enter into any discussion at all.

Also if you have agreed days for him to have access/care of your daughter, he should be sticking to that and not randomly turning up when he feels like it. That can be very unsettling for the child (and you), and sounds like a control issue to me.
You should ask him not to do that any more, and if he persists you could go to court to formally agree access times (if you haven't already), or add it to an existing CO.

averythinline · 15/06/2026 17:22

Why do you let him come crying to you etc if he's an ex? What he does and says only reflects on him..... Maybe if that was more obvious people would realise... You sound like still a couple? If you're both picking up from school and he's talking to you about his life etc..

Clearer boundaries may help both you and dc and others to understand it's him

MyTrivia · 15/06/2026 09:38

MargotGobby · 15/06/2026 08:59

What do you mean judgement, I was just quoting yourself back at you that you said you were unusual or hard to understand to NTs. Autism presents differently in different people and tone is a massive issue for some people so I think sometimes we need to show some grace. However as I said if he’s deliberately hurting people that is different - I haven’t met him so don’t know!

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Yes, I understand what you mean - sorry, I didnt take enough time to see where you were coming from.

But the thing is, I’m not the one who’s miserable because I’ve pushed everyone away like he has. He’s a very good looking man with literally no friends. He does the same things again and again and then uses me as a sounding board to explain how sad he is.

He has alienated a work colleague who is actually his superior by getting drunk at a work event and saying something rude to him. The man was nothing but kind to him until this happened and now he ignores him. He’s going on a business trip today and is now stressing about the fact that he’s been asked to check in with this guy on arrival.

I just get frustrated - he comes crying to me about all this stuff but won’t accept well intentioned direction about how to make his life better.

i think that if the child’s mum at school was upset, she probably wouldn’t say so.

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MargotGobby · 15/06/2026 08:59

MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 21:28

What does that fact that I’m autistic have to do with this? I’m not the one getting in trouble with authority figures like he does and I’m not the one who has no friends. He has this anger and disdain for authority which to me comes across far more like someone who’s narcissistic because autistic people tend to like to follow the rules.

Believe it or not, not all autistic people go around pissing people off all day. And the fact you’ve made a judgement like that about me says far more about you…

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What do you mean judgement, I was just quoting yourself back at you that you said you were unusual or hard to understand to NTs. Autism presents differently in different people and tone is a massive issue for some people so I think sometimes we need to show some grace. However as I said if he’s deliberately hurting people that is different - I haven’t met him so don’t know!

MyTrivia · 15/06/2026 02:07

sittingonabeach · 15/06/2026 00:40

I assume you liked him enough at one point to think he was good father material

Why would you ‘assume’ anything? This is something I see all the time on MN these days ‘it’s your fault you have a child with someone who turned out not to be the man you thought’.

He spent years messing me about. I loved him in the beginning. He has his good points. But he will not and cannot self reflect. For quite some time whilst I was with him he was also with someone else. I didn’t know about it until after our daughter was born.

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Firefly1987 · 15/06/2026 01:59

Well was the other mum offended? This is just men really, they like giving advice and trying to be helpful. If he's autistic he especially won't understand social norms or understand women are just looking for support/empathy not necessarily wanting actual practical advice.

sittingonabeach · 15/06/2026 00:40

I assume you liked him enough at one point to think he was good father material

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 15/06/2026 00:34

MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 10:22

Maybe. Do you have kids though? Because someone suggesting your child needs a tutor can sound like a criticism of them. Especially when our daughter doesn’t struggle at all.

Im certain he thinks he’s being helpful.

I don't think you sound weird at all.

I think you sound thoughtful and kind.

You're especially kind to your very annoying ex, trying to help him, and listening when he rings you to complain about feeling lonely.

Your ex definitely sounds overbearing (re the 6 yr old needing a tutor) and difficult (re the police officer and the too-dark windows).
I bet you are very glad every day that you don't have to live with him any more.

💐

MyTrivia · 15/06/2026 00:11

Yeah but when our own daughter is very able, it just comes across as crass I think. Maybe in London children of 6 years old have tutors. But this is a non-selective, tiny school which whilst academically sound, is not hot housey. But the fact that it is a very small school and the children have very individualised work kind of makes it worse because settings like this are chosen by parents to avoid kids struggling in 30+ class sizes.

I also think many children, especially boys are later bloomers. And others who seem able at this age can level out a bit.

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Pistachiocake · 14/06/2026 23:55

OKJC · 13/06/2026 10:44

Gosh I thought it was going to be something completely inappropriate, that sounds fine.

Agree. And a lot of parents do get tutors for young kids now-I don't necessarily agree with it myself, but it's definitely not a weird thing to say.

notnorman · 14/06/2026 23:05

Sounds like a narcissistic dickhead. A lot like my ex who though everyone should hear his words of wisdom and performative parenting

MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 21:28

MargotGobby · 14/06/2026 18:34

“I think really he needs to learn not to get people’s backs up. 🤷🏻‍♀️”

If it were that simple though … of course if he’s deliberately insulting people that’s different. But if he’s accidentally rubbing people up the wrong way it might be like asking you to get up one morning and make yourself not unusual or hard to understand to NTs

What does that fact that I’m autistic have to do with this? I’m not the one getting in trouble with authority figures like he does and I’m not the one who has no friends. He has this anger and disdain for authority which to me comes across far more like someone who’s narcissistic because autistic people tend to like to follow the rules.

Believe it or not, not all autistic people go around pissing people off all day. And the fact you’ve made a judgement like that about me says far more about you…

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MargotGobby · 14/06/2026 18:34

“I think really he needs to learn not to get people’s backs up. 🤷🏻‍♀️”

If it were that simple though … of course if he’s deliberately insulting people that’s different. But if he’s accidentally rubbing people up the wrong way it might be like asking you to get up one morning and make yourself not unusual or hard to understand to NTs

MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 10:27

BrendaSmall · 14/06/2026 08:25

You’re reading far too much into this!!
Yes your ex did suggest a tutor which is good advice!!
I think it’s you with the misunderstanding not your husband!

You sound like you don’t like him and you don’t have a good word to say about him, he’s better off being separated from you

I’m not going to bother going into why we broke up. I wouldn’t say I don’t have a good word to say about him. But he makes his own life difficult and then phones me up to say how empty and lonely he feels and I think really he needs to learn not to get people’s backs up. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 10:22

OKJC · 14/06/2026 08:19

Honestly you sound more weird.

Maybe. Do you have kids though? Because someone suggesting your child needs a tutor can sound like a criticism of them. Especially when our daughter doesn’t struggle at all.

Im certain he thinks he’s being helpful.

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MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 10:20

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 14/06/2026 04:18

Can you give another example? As the one you’ve given just sounds like someone making conversation.

He escalates situations that didn’t need to go there (one example).

One time, he was parked at a petrol station and a police officer told him that the front windows on a car that he had just bought were too dark (he genuinely didn’t know) so instead of saying ‘oh sorry, I’ll get it taken off’ he started getting arsey with the police officer. Which then escalated the situation and the police officer said ‘well you’re rolling your eyes at me so you’ve got 1 minute to get it off or you’ll receive a fine’.

He ended up with a fine and then spent months making formal complaints about the police officer back and forth and demanding to see body cam info.

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BrendaSmall · 14/06/2026 08:25

MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 03:35

Because I feel that it’s rude to say to a parent at school, who I will have to see for quite a number of years that her 6 year old child needs a tutor. Just because she happened to say that he doesn’t like maths. It’s like saying ‘your child clearly isn’t academic - you’d better sort him out’.

He talks to people in a lecturing tone and it’s so embarrassing.

You’re reading far too much into this!!
Yes your ex did suggest a tutor which is good advice!!
I think it’s you with the misunderstanding not your husband!

You sound like you don’t like him and you don’t have a good word to say about him, he’s better off being separated from you

OKJC · 14/06/2026 08:19

MyTrivia · 14/06/2026 03:35

Because I feel that it’s rude to say to a parent at school, who I will have to see for quite a number of years that her 6 year old child needs a tutor. Just because she happened to say that he doesn’t like maths. It’s like saying ‘your child clearly isn’t academic - you’d better sort him out’.

He talks to people in a lecturing tone and it’s so embarrassing.

Honestly you sound more weird.

Usernamenotav · 14/06/2026 07:07

MyTrivia · 13/06/2026 17:13

Yes that is the problem - he can’t read a room and he goes around offending people all the time who then want nothing more to do with him. He keeps changing jobs because he alienates work colleagues. His tone is usually the problem. Sometimes he is joking but people don’t see the joke!

I don’t think he is deliberately malicious. He just hasn’t been brought up properly. He is rude to me as well and will put me down to our daughter as a ‘joke’.

Unfortunately he just turns up on a whim whether I will be there or not.

I think maybe you haven't used the best example here then? I don't think what he's said is rude really? Sounds like he was trying to be helpful. But obviously we don't know the tone he used. Was the mum annoyed?

Moonnstarz · 14/06/2026 06:40

If you are separated I would find him turning up at school on my days to pick up the bigger issue. Isn't this a bit odd and confusing for your child?

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 14/06/2026 04:18

Can you give another example? As the one you’ve given just sounds like someone making conversation.