Bloody sick of men. Oh it’s the immigrants raping and stabbing, NO it’s men. Always fucking men

The people you talk about are British, they would be disgusted at you referring to them as Irish men not once but several times 😂

I'm not `demonising immigrants'. I don't worship them either.

We have enough problem men in these divided Isles already without importing millions more of them who are potentially even worse.

Anyway, carry on offering `thoughts and prayers' to the young man who had his eyes gauged out by the man he was helping move in next door.

I'm sure that will really help.

Pakistani rape gangs of thousands of men you say? Funny that because the reports show only 165 known perpetrators for the entire Asian ethnicity category.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse-accessible#chapter-4-the-nature-and-characteristics-of-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation

*The VKPP Report for 2023[footnote 131] notes that ethnicity was recorded for only 31% of perpetrators, but goes on to record the ethnicity breakdown (88% ‘White’, 5% as ‘Asian’, 3% as ‘Black’, 2% as ‘Mixed’ and 1% as ‘Chinese or other’) and compare it with Census ethnic distribution in the general population.

In the November 2024 CSE Taskforce COCAD report, self-defined ethnicity data was published for all ‘contact’ group-based child sexual exploitation and abuse crimes in 2023 where two or more suspects had been identified (including offending in family, institutional and other settings). It also outlined an ethnicity profile for suspects that aligns fairly closely with 2021 Census data for the general population in England and Wales[footnote 132] (88% White, 7% Asian, 5% Black, 3% Mixed and 2% Other), with a caveat noted in the report that self-defined ethnicity was only recorded for 34% of suspects.

With over two thirds of ethnicity data missing for perpetrators in the VKPP report and nearly two thirds missing in COCAD, it is not possible to draw any conclusions on the representation of ethnic groups amongst perpetrators from this published data set.

This audit took the same published data set and reconfigured it. If perpetrators for whom ethnicity was not known or declared are included in the data and percentage breakdowns, the figures look very different, with 28% of perpetrators identifying as White:
EthnicityNumberPercentage
White 1,884 28%
Asian 165 2%
Black 110 2%
Mixed 60 <1%
Other 47 <1%
Not declared 4,404 66%
Totals 6,670 100%

Presenting the data without the ‘unknowns’ where the identification of ethnicity is at such a low level is misleading.

The issue is we are missing 66% of the data so we have no idea that any one ethnicity or subethnic group is disporportinately forming rape gangs,.

a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Lol!

A fair few mentions of how awful life is in Afghanistan for women. But doesn’t that just underline how oppressive the Taliban regime is and the need for asylum? Many Afghans helped the US and UK against the Taliban.

That’s admittedly besides the point - I do accept people can have a debate about immigration. But whether or not you agree with providing asylum, these men indulging in mob violence in Belfast are dangerous to women and children.

Why is it okay to generalise and denigrate an entire sex based off the crimes of some of them but you draw the line at recognising certain nationalities may be more dangerous than others. The mind boggles at this logic.

Because they almost immediately descend into making it about immigration and pointing out ‘white men commit crimes too’ like we don’t already know this perfectly fucking well.

Yes, I'm Irish. Unlike the English who will sit behind computers, offering wilted flowers and lighting candles while wittering platitudes about `hopes and prayers', the Irish will be out on the streets, whether you like it or not.
Why do you wish to antagonise them given the long and bloody history of that divided isle?

They do, so let’s not allow MORE bad men into Britain. We have enough that need to be dealt with! Why wouldn’t you want to keep men out who we can keep out when you know men are the problem?

What about them? They’re being prosecuted in large numbers. Even royalty are falling now, and Epstein’s rape island has been extensively covered. Even MAGA types are demanding the files.

Do you genuinely think someone whose OP says “men are the problem” was accepting of mass rape of children?

why do people always try and reach for this as a gotcha. We think all violence is wrong, regardless of the perpetrator. Unlike the rioters in Belfast and elsewhere who are only interested in avenging crime when it’s committed by an immigrant.

And have a think about why you’re opposed to demonising all men for the actions of a few, but fine with demonising all immigrants for the action of even fewer.

They won’t listen to you, these people take a particular kind of exception to non white people making this point because then they can’t rely on accusations of bigotry. Thats why they haven’t replied. Of course, you’re correct.

It's not `lone immigrant men' though, is it.

The Pakistani rape gangs were well organised and involved thousands of men.

But let's sweep the wholesale abuse of thousands of children under the carpet in the name of `dversity' and focus on a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Thoughts and prayers etc etc cont.p.94. And let's light a Diptique candle to offer our condolences, diversity is our strength etc etc. Oh and let's demonise 50% of the human race for the errors of the few. How very enlightened.

Yes, it's disgusting.

We're not some sort of elevated, enlightened society where women are safe from men. Studies (such as this one https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8562086/ ) conclude that sexual assault is a widespread global problem.

Yanbu OP
The far right blaming immigrants has a lot of ´only we get to rape our women’ vibes. These are the same men who want to more heavily restrict abortions, deport women and children to the Taliban, and think women shouldn’t have senior roles because women aren’t as willing as men to sacrifice family time.

What do you propose to do with this information?

Okay so we’ve established you would have been happy to attend a riot, advertised as wanting only men and requesting you come prepared to fight or get arrested.

Not only that but also “all businesses must close NO EXCUSES”.

Frankly that just makes you a bit of a dick, nothing about the intention at all is peaceful and the goal is very clearly violence and destruction. If that’s the sort of thing you’re itching to spend your evenings getting involved in you’re also a total thug.

The 'mainstream' violence I'm witnessing is not being perpetrated by immigrants though. Lone immigrant men have murdered or assaulted citizens, but within hours, there are tens and hundreds of white thugs ready and suitably armed to burn, kill, assault police officers, hunt immigrants and all sorts.
Sounds like violence is so inherent and present for them, they need little notice or encouragement to be violent.

Exactly. Let's not believe this patriarchal lie. It's "not acceptable" to be caught or known to sexually assault women, but a hell of a lot men clearly don't have a problem with it.

Exactly, and the racists just want to own women, not protect them.

Except we haven’t have we. We have incidents of VAWG all day every day committed by western born men. Most of which don’t even make an appearance in the mainstream media because it’s so commonplace & to be frank, doesn’t rile people up.

I feel like I want to scream that I’m sick of white men pointing their fingers at other groups