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AIBU to ask why so many clothes are sized for taller women?

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sarahb083 · 12/06/2026 18:24

Genuinely question - why do clothing companies design clothes for women who are much taller than average height? Why not make the 'standard' size fit 5'5ish women, then offer petite and tall sizing if there's demand for it? The vast majority of women are somewhere within a few inches of 5'5 and very few are 5'10!

I've been looking for a jumpsuit. They all look lovely on the model, then you look at the model's height and she's 5'10. Surely a very small percent of women are this tall? Some companies make petite sizes (great!) but most don't.

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DontBuyAnotherBook · 13/06/2026 08:47

closureatlast · 13/06/2026 08:29

6 foot here with 34 inside leg and size 43/44 narrow feet.
I can uy the odd M and S long trousers but it's hit and miss. I buy men's NB trainers. Shoes...always online, usually After 8 and Magnus, averaging £100 for boots.
Next is my go to but have used Halara, Perfect jeans and New Look Tall.
Im late 60s and there is more choice now than 40 years ago....but its not great and quality is hit and miss.

What size NB do you wear? I am between an 8.5 and 9 in shoe sizes.

TropicalFishAreTwats · 13/06/2026 08:41

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 13/06/2026 08:09

The mis-selling of 41s as 8s and 42s as 9s is my pet peeve! The founder of Otto + Ivy has a great explainer on her instagram about this. The differences in EU - UK size conversion are minimal for smaller sizes but they compound for bigger sizes.

This might get me flamed as it’s MN but according to a friend who works for a big European shoe brand apparently the biggest growth market for larger women’s shoes is trans women.

I nearly mentioned trans women falsely affecting data on the average shoe size for women but then couldn't quite be bothered debating the whole thing this early on a Saturday morning!
The problem being trans women have mens feet which even if they are the 'same size' as a woman ie a 9, they won't fit in a shoe made for women. Men generally have wider feet, especially from the bone at the bottom of the big toe across to the little toe and a much larger, wider instep.
A men's size 8 is made on an entirely different last to a woman's size 8. I can get away with wearing mens trainers for example if I wear thicker socks, most size 8 men cannot get their feet in ladies size 8's!
I have often mentioned at work that we just need to standardise sizes from tiny children's 8's (think EU 26 off the top of my head but don't quote me!) right up to what we consider mens sizes (14/15 or EU 48/49). At the moment we are flitting between trying to make UK sizes fit with EU sizing but not going all in so it just doesn't work.
I have noticed it seems much easier to buy 'ladies' pvc knee boots with a six inch heel in a size 12+ than it is to buy a pair of smart, block heeled leather shoes for the office, I think it is quite obvious women are not the target market.

Dragonfly909 · 13/06/2026 08:40

I'm just under 5ft and nothing fits me, never mind just clothes - glasses, hats, bags, chairs - nothing fits right 😂

Shodan · 13/06/2026 08:37

If they are, it must be a new thing- I'm 5'8", hovering between a 12 and a 14 at the moment, and most trousers are too short. Jumpsuits are impossible. Plus everything seems to be made for the apple figure, so has gaping waistbands.

I make all my own wide legged trousers/jumpsuits etc and have for many years.

pragmatismuniversalsentimentalist · 13/06/2026 08:34

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/06/2026 18:42

I'm 6ft. I'm surprised the average woman is only 5ft 5. I would have guessed 5ft7

Im fairly sure the average is actually shorter than this, ive a feeling its more like 5ft 4!

I think the thing is, clothes are easily taken up but you cant make them bigger. In years gone by women thought nothing of taking a pair of trousers up a bit, hemlines were seen as very much adjustable, so i think womens clothes probably err on the long side because of that.

hourglass2 · 13/06/2026 08:33

I'm 5ft 10 and you couldn't be more wrong, I have terrible trouble finding decent length stuff for my height but you'll find petite ranges everywhere. Tall women are not well served in the clothing industry.

notnorman · 13/06/2026 08:31

DrEmilyCrabtree · 12/06/2026 19:14

At a shade under 5'4 i sit between petite and standard. I have become fairly decent at putting a hem on trousers, but have also found that anything that is elasticated waist (eg jogger jeans) seem to sit empire line! Like Simon Cowell pants! And if I sit them on my waist there's too much length to the gusset. I have returned so many pairs recently. I never even consider a maxi dress - i'm clumsy enough without an extra trip hazard

Same here! If you have any joy with clothes do let me know

closureatlast · 13/06/2026 08:29

6 foot here with 34 inside leg and size 43/44 narrow feet.
I can uy the odd M and S long trousers but it's hit and miss. I buy men's NB trainers. Shoes...always online, usually After 8 and Magnus, averaging £100 for boots.
Next is my go to but have used Halara, Perfect jeans and New Look Tall.
Im late 60s and there is more choice now than 40 years ago....but its not great and quality is hit and miss.

SassyLemonFish · 13/06/2026 08:27

TropicalFishAreTwats · 12/06/2026 18:29

I am 5'10, I can assure you most clothes are not made for women my height!

Same here. I have to import my work shirts from Lands End USA.

cinquanta · 13/06/2026 08:25

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 13/06/2026 08:09

The mis-selling of 41s as 8s and 42s as 9s is my pet peeve! The founder of Otto + Ivy has a great explainer on her instagram about this. The differences in EU - UK size conversion are minimal for smaller sizes but they compound for bigger sizes.

This might get me flamed as it’s MN but according to a friend who works for a big European shoe brand apparently the biggest growth market for larger women’s shoes is trans women.

DH isn’t trans but he is always moaning that shoes now advertised as size12 are sometimes barely an 11. He still has a pair of shoes he wore at school that fit, so he knows his feet haven’t changed.

Squirrelsnut · 13/06/2026 08:25

I find many tops now look almost cropped on me and I'm only 5'8"".

JumpingPumpkin · 13/06/2026 08:23

thinkfast · 12/06/2026 18:31

I’m 5’8 and I find the opposite. Plus it’s easier to get something shortened at the dry cleaners. You can’t get it lengthened as the extra fabric isn’t there

I think the issue, illustrated here, that there's no such thing as a standard size, as soon as you add 2 inches in height you need a different size

I get most annoyed with hippy skirts that come in one size that you can buy at festivals. Some of them are lovely colours but they're about 2 inches too long for me. Just too much of a pain to take up.

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 13/06/2026 08:14

thinkfast · 12/06/2026 18:31

I’m 5’8 and I find the opposite. Plus it’s easier to get something shortened at the dry cleaners. You can’t get it lengthened as the extra fabric isn’t there

THIS. A hundred times over. Nothing is made for tall people!

DilemmaDelilah · 13/06/2026 08:13

I'm 65 and now 5' 3" . I used to be 5' 6" but I have shrunk. People have also got taller, in general, than when I was in my prime. I now find it impossible to buy regular length trousers that aren't much too long, whereas I used to wear regular length all the time. And if you are like me and tend to buy cheap clothes from the supermarket it is now extremely difficult! Places like Sainsburys used to sell trousers in different lengths, that is now very rare. I have some favourite linen trousers I bought about 6 years ago from Asda which now need replacing, but they don't come in short/petite! The ones I have are regular, but regular is now longer. Either they're making everything for taller people or they're assuming everyone wears heels. I dont.

lemonbasket · 13/06/2026 08:12

DontBuyAnotherBook · 13/06/2026 08:09

Do they have those buttons inside to make them tighter? Tesco do skinny fit trousers for school. My son is four but tall and skinny. He is going to be a nightmare soon for that.

No they don’t. The boys trousers do, but the girls all wear the jersey pull up style.

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 13/06/2026 08:09

TropicalFishAreTwats · 13/06/2026 07:43

I work in manufacture and export of footwear, it has been noticed but unfortunately the market for ladies size 9+ is still extremely small.
The most popular sizes were always 5 & 6, I would say it is now shifting to 6 & 7 with more top ups of size 7 & 8's through the season.
The other thing to watch out for is UK companies selling an EU 41 as a size 8! It isn't, it measures as our 7.5! If you are an 8 you need EU 42, 9 is EU 43 etc. They shouldn't be selling an EU 41 as an 8😡
Long Tall Sally does some lovely shoes in size 9, I had some gorgeous, smart Chelsea boots from there last year, about £40 in the sale.

The mis-selling of 41s as 8s and 42s as 9s is my pet peeve! The founder of Otto + Ivy has a great explainer on her instagram about this. The differences in EU - UK size conversion are minimal for smaller sizes but they compound for bigger sizes.

This might get me flamed as it’s MN but according to a friend who works for a big European shoe brand apparently the biggest growth market for larger women’s shoes is trans women.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 13/06/2026 08:09

lemonbasket · 13/06/2026 08:06

Thanks, I’ll give them a go. I ordered the M&S ones for the length she needs (for much older children) and they are absolutely massive on her width wise! The ones that fit her frame are half way up her calves. So she really needs the ones for a younger age but in the extra long length.

Edited

Do they have those buttons inside to make them tighter? Tesco do skinny fit trousers for school. My son is four but tall and skinny. He is going to be a nightmare soon for that.

lemonbasket · 13/06/2026 08:06

DontBuyAnotherBook · 13/06/2026 08:05

My 8 year old is already in 10/11 size trousers. I suspect she might be 6ft as an adult. Tesco might be an idea for the trousers?

Thanks, I’ll give them a go. I ordered the M&S ones for the length she needs (for much older children) and they are absolutely massive on her width wise! The ones that fit her frame are half way up her calves. So she really needs the ones for a younger age but in the extra long length.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 13/06/2026 08:05

lemonbasket · 13/06/2026 08:01

The younger generation are much taller. Women my age (mid 40s) might have a short average height, but I imagine it’s taller for younger women, and they seem to be getting taller. My 13 year old DD is already 5’9…

I’m having a nightmare finding school trousers long enough but narrow enough for her very slim figure (kids frame). M&S says they do long and extra long in the jersey school trousers she wants according to the size chart, but they don’t seem to exist on the website.

Edited

My 8 year old is already in 10/11 size trousers. I suspect she might be 6ft as an adult. Tesco might be an idea for the trousers?

lemonbasket · 13/06/2026 08:01

The younger generation are much taller. Women my age (mid 40s) might have a short average height, but I imagine it’s taller for younger women, and they seem to be getting taller. My 13 year old DD is already 5’9…

I’m having a nightmare finding school trousers long enough but narrow enough for her very slim figure (kids frame). M&S says they do long and extra long in the jersey school trousers she wants according to the size chart, but they don’t seem to exist on the website.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 13/06/2026 07:57

TropicalFishAreTwats · 13/06/2026 07:43

I work in manufacture and export of footwear, it has been noticed but unfortunately the market for ladies size 9+ is still extremely small.
The most popular sizes were always 5 & 6, I would say it is now shifting to 6 & 7 with more top ups of size 7 & 8's through the season.
The other thing to watch out for is UK companies selling an EU 41 as a size 8! It isn't, it measures as our 7.5! If you are an 8 you need EU 42, 9 is EU 43 etc. They shouldn't be selling an EU 41 as an 8😡
Long Tall Sally does some lovely shoes in size 9, I had some gorgeous, smart Chelsea boots from there last year, about £40 in the sale.

I am going to have a look. Hotter if they are still around bigger sized boots as well .

Wonderwall23 · 13/06/2026 07:56

It's hard to argue if that's your direct experience but mine is the opposite....never long enough.

I'm 5'10 and size 8 so on paper I should match the models but the reality is very different. I also find an assumption that tall women are also bigger proportionally so clothes are also too big...I seriously suspect models are pinned into the clothes from the back.

I don't really expect a standard size to fit me but I think a 'tall' size should.

TropicalFishAreTwats · 13/06/2026 07:43

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 13/06/2026 07:21

I’m 6’ with a 34” inside leg and although there are many shops I simply don’t bother with, I can now find some clothes on the high street in a way I couldn’t 10-15 years ago. M&S and Tu ‘long’ trousers are perfect for me, and randomly so is John Lewis’s ‘Anyday’ range.

Shoes are a different matter. I’m a EU 43 / UK 9 and the only shoes I can buy in store are unisex styles like trainers and hiking boots. Anything else has to come from specialist retailers like Otto + Ivy.

It does feel like heights are increasing and I wonder if retailers are responding to this. I increasingly find that I am not always the tallest woman in a room.

I work in manufacture and export of footwear, it has been noticed but unfortunately the market for ladies size 9+ is still extremely small.
The most popular sizes were always 5 & 6, I would say it is now shifting to 6 & 7 with more top ups of size 7 & 8's through the season.
The other thing to watch out for is UK companies selling an EU 41 as a size 8! It isn't, it measures as our 7.5! If you are an 8 you need EU 42, 9 is EU 43 etc. They shouldn't be selling an EU 41 as an 8😡
Long Tall Sally does some lovely shoes in size 9, I had some gorgeous, smart Chelsea boots from there last year, about £40 in the sale.

ObelixtheGaul · 13/06/2026 07:40

Middlechild3 · 12/06/2026 20:34

Far easier to take a hem up than lengthen. Loads of tall wonen around, small people can shop in the kids section.

'Short' doesn't mean 'has the body of a child'.

Boomer55 · 13/06/2026 07:37

I know - I’m a short arse at 5’3” and so much stuff has to be taken up. 🙄

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