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Savethegirls · 12/06/2026 16:51

Posting here for traffic and name changed for this question.

At my child’s secondary school, one of boys (15yrs)leaked his friend’s ipad contents. Screenshots of ipad had folders for several girls as young as 12. Its had pictures and text about how his interaction with these girls.

School suspended the boy who found it and circulated the screenshots, saying privacy violations. And all kids had to delete every evidence gathered. Parent of the creepy boy keep telling everyone its his habit to write notes and some of it was just “fantasy “.

Now obviously backlash no one is talking to the boy but the deputy Headmaster is now singled out girls and asking them to not believe these stories and they need to talk to him.

the creepy boy is in Drama tech crew and probably has a stash of pics from last few yrs.

the girls have seen the evidence and not ready to trust the school.

YABU - overthinking this
YANBU- call the Headmaster over this

parents and kids are feeling there might be repercussions at school if they complain. Any advice on how to handle this?

OP posts:
SnappyUmberLion · 13/06/2026 19:39

ChalkOutlines · 13/06/2026 19:15

Does it also makes notes, comments and fantasies about these people?

Like the notes, comments and fantasies PP have described writing down when they were teenagers?

ChalkOutlines · 13/06/2026 19:15

ImaSpringChicken · 13/06/2026 19:09

My phone mysr be creepy then it because it xan group photos by person in them and say when and where each eas taken.

Does it also makes notes, comments and fantasies about these people?

101Nutella · 13/06/2026 19:13

YANBU it’s weird, creepy and stalking like behaviour. This kid obviously has no idea about normal boundaries. He showed poor judgement so the school should recognise that by withdrawing camera privileges.

id push for that, as a group, then go to the governors about it. Also any time my child was spoken to about it I’d call the teacher and say ‘actions have consequences, it is not her job to be his friend, so stop bringing this up’.

ImaSpringChicken · 13/06/2026 19:09

My phone mysr be creepy then it because it xan group photos by person in them and say when and where each eas taken.

Khayker · 13/06/2026 19:05

Savethegirls · 12/06/2026 19:44

Thank you for helping me with this clarity.
its been emotionally draining to see girls helpless. But I agree #2 is what we need to do to be future focused .

You need to speak to the school and ask what steps they are taking to ensure this boy doesn't do this again as this is indeed stalkerish behaviour and children should be protected from that.

Because he has photographs in his posession, he is the data controller for purposes of GDPR. If he is the data controller under this law he needs to state upon request what he intends to keep these images for and how long he will keep them. (Data controller can be under 18) As its data (images) each individual that suspects photos have been taken can request that they have copies of those images and if they have been shared. if they have been shared (which they have as how else would the boy who was suspended know they exist) that's a breach of Data Protection Act which is a crime and police should be involved.
The girls and their parents can request their deletion. The Children's Code (officially the Age Appropriate Design Code) is a legally binding UK code of practice for online services. Enforced by the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) under the Data Protection Act 2018, it requires digital platforms to prioritize children's privacy and data protection by default. This applies regardless of the age of the data controller.

The school should not be allowing him to take pictures as under Data Protection it is advisable to get parental permission before taking any photos and pictures of minors and anything uploaded onto a school website will fall under the code I've quoted above. The school should know all this but seem to be ignoring it.
Speak to the Social Services Safeguarding lead at your local council or contact the school safeguarding lead. Contact NSPCC for independant advise.

I suggest you talk to other parents. Not to form a witch hunt for this boy but to get your facts straight before approaching the school. (You may be better off speaking to the Education dept in your council or requesting their presence at a meeting).
Don't shy away from the fact that this boy with his parents and school's consent has victimised the girls by placing them under surveillance and writing who knows what about them. They may well be scared of what this boy has done as his motives are not at all clear. If that's the case, or there's potential for that to have happened as everyone handles this type of incident differently, why aren't the school using a trauma informed approach and are actually revictimising the girls by asking them to be nice to him?
Sounds like a typical comp response, stick to your guns and insist on knowing all of the above. If the school aren't helpful or brush it off, tell them your options are police for breach of DP, Information Commissioners Office, and reporting the school's safeguarding in this instance to the Regional Safeguarding Board which is a statutory body and will investigate. You may also wish to file a complaint with your local council which will eventually be referred to the local government ombudsman who can take action if the council can't resolve matters. This young man needs help which it doesn't sound like he's getting from school or parents.

Tuesdayschild50 · 13/06/2026 18:50

Not your daughter or any of the other girls should be forced to interact with anyone they feel uncomfortable with and definitely shouldn't be punished.. is the deputy a male?

OneFineDay22 · 13/06/2026 10:56

shuggles · 12/06/2026 22:20

I don't understand what you are saying. My point was clear in that understanding that other people are offensive and will say/write things you don't like, and accepting that there's nothing you can do to change that, is an aspect of maturity for all people.

I think there is a big difference between saying offensive things that people have to learn to live with and tracking someone’s movements along with files of photographs that have been labelled. Since you seem interested in how these children are going to mature - imagine a woman saying something offensive to a man, and a man collecting pictures and documenting the activity of a woman. The poster you are responding to is trying to point out that a boy feeling offended is not at all the same as a girl feeling unsafe.

SnappyUmberLion · 13/06/2026 08:49

Lowandhandhold · 12/06/2026 23:14

Op answers none of the questions. She’s seen nothing. Shes not been able to tell anyone what these so called ‘folders’ contain. The school has said the boy did nothing wrong. Her child has been identified by the school as being a bully.

I hate sleazy men more than most people (a history) but there is no suggestion beyond this op’s child that there there is a sleazy man/ boy here. To reiterate. Unless the whole school SLT are conspiring to hide something what her daughter says isn’t true

This, 100%.

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2026 00:01

It is not bullying to set boundaries with a stalker.

GreatOffWhiteFalcon · 12/06/2026 23:58

ChalkOutlines · 12/06/2026 23:35

He doesn’t have the right to these girls’ attention, time and friendship though.

True, but he has the right to be included in activities and spoken to in a respectful way.

Lookingdownthebarrell · 12/06/2026 23:35

Has any of this being reported to the police? If not, then why?
Why are a group of teachers and parents left trying to determine without a legal and or psychological assessment etc that can come with reporting to those who are trained to safe guard children?

ChalkOutlines · 12/06/2026 23:35

GreatOffWhiteFalcon · 12/06/2026 23:14

Because this amounts to bullying and the school is allowed to point this out when the source of the exclusion happened at school?
By the sound of it, this boy believed that he was keeping a private diary and included in it photos of girls who meant something to him, photos which freely circulating anyway. Adolescents have strong feelings. It's the kind of intimate thing that nobody else should see let alone circulate. He doesn't deserve to be an outcast and described as 'the creepy boy'.

He doesn’t have the right to these girls’ attention, time and friendship though.

Lowandhandhold · 12/06/2026 23:14

Op answers none of the questions. She’s seen nothing. Shes not been able to tell anyone what these so called ‘folders’ contain. The school has said the boy did nothing wrong. Her child has been identified by the school as being a bully.

I hate sleazy men more than most people (a history) but there is no suggestion beyond this op’s child that there there is a sleazy man/ boy here. To reiterate. Unless the whole school SLT are conspiring to hide something what her daughter says isn’t true

GreatOffWhiteFalcon · 12/06/2026 23:14

Savethegirls · 12/06/2026 21:21

Seriously?

  1. Girls have shown screenshots to their parents
  2. His parents have called girls parents (including me) to say its not that bad just fantasy
  3. Deputy has suspended a few boys for sharing the images
  4. Deputy spoke to girls about not excluding him, saying nothing is wrong
  5. some of parents left a common activity (external to school) after which he complained to school saying Girls are excluded him.

what right does the school have to ask girls to not exclude him for an external activity that has nothing to do with them

Because this amounts to bullying and the school is allowed to point this out when the source of the exclusion happened at school?
By the sound of it, this boy believed that he was keeping a private diary and included in it photos of girls who meant something to him, photos which freely circulating anyway. Adolescents have strong feelings. It's the kind of intimate thing that nobody else should see let alone circulate. He doesn't deserve to be an outcast and described as 'the creepy boy'.

YouputthetwatinKathleen · 12/06/2026 22:39

SnappyUmberLion · 12/06/2026 22:21

He is also a child. Unless he is literally following them around every minute of the school day, how can he possibly be recording their every movement? Don’t be so ridiculous. Why are you happy to paint a boy who had had his personal files shared without his consent, stuff that sounds very similar to the diaries described by numerous PP, as some sort of demented stalker?

Are you saying that an adult stalker has to be following a woman every single minute of her day for his behaviour to be considered creepy harassing and distressing?

They are in school. A small, confined environment. That is pretty much the world they inhabit day in day out, and it is a world they cannot avoid. All he needs to know is their timetable, and he has a record of all their movements during their school day. For all intents and purposes, he is stalking them. If it had been kept private, then nobody would be any the wiser, the girls wouldn't know and they wouldn't feel distress. That they do know is not in any way their fault. It was not the girls who revealed his activities, it was another boy. So that boy is culpable, the boy who kept files on them is culpable, not the girls who now feel exposed by his being outed.

If you keep a diary and talk shit about other people, you make damned sure it stays private. If it doesn't stay private, it is not the fault of the subject of your shit talk that they are upset by it and don't want to know you.

ChalkOutlines · 12/06/2026 22:36

SnappyUmberLion · 12/06/2026 22:01

Having their every move recorded? How dramatic!

It is dramatic! Imagine you worked with someone that has access to a camera as part of their job and you find out there are folders labelled on his computer SnappyUmberLion and he has pics on it from your social media and various shots of you at work. Plus comments of your interactions and “fantasies”. That you were unaware of. Even if the pics were all from official events you now know that you’re on his radar and he has the ability to take pics of you whenever he wants. You wouldn’t be bothered at all? Not even a little bit?

ChalkOutlines · 12/06/2026 22:30

ClawsandEffect · 12/06/2026 22:08

Some kids ARE creepy though. I had a student a few years ago who used to sit in my lessons and whisper to other students what he was going to do to me. Slit my throat, stab me, hit me with a cricket bat.

Typically, I reported it to SLT and they did nothing. Ever.

That never happens though. All school thoroughly investigate everything and deal with things appropriately and if you claim otherwise, it never happened. According to some posters , at least.

jeomeollibyeoldul · 12/06/2026 22:26

ugh, he sounds a total creep. it's like everyone in this thread has forgotten what teenage boys are like, or something. i'd have been extremely freaked out if i found out some boy was keeping a file on me with pictures when i was 15. i'd be telling my daughter to stay far far away from him from now on until forever.

thestudio · 12/06/2026 22:24

shuggles · 12/06/2026 22:20

I don't understand what you are saying. My point was clear in that understanding that other people are offensive and will say/write things you don't like, and accepting that there's nothing you can do to change that, is an aspect of maturity for all people.

And I'm saying that the damage caused by people being offensive completely depends on whether they have power or not.

For example, someone making a racist comment in a broadly non-racist society is a weird and offensive one-off.

Someone making a racist comment in apartheid south africa is enforcing the systemic racism of the country.

Jeez.

SnappyUmberLion · 12/06/2026 22:21

YouputthetwatinKathleen · 12/06/2026 22:10

They are children and this is the tiny world they have to inhabit, just like the boy in question inhabits it and is feeling exposed by his behaviour being outed to his peers. It's their world, so yes, it is dramatic for the girls involved. To know that within the school environment - an environment they cannot avoid being in - they were being watched, recorded, commented upon and photographed and/or their photographs on school media collated by this boy. Which may not be illegal in itself, but this doesn't stop the girls, now they know about it, being self conscious about it and creeped out by it, never mind potentially feeling harassed and embarrassed knowing everybody knows they were/are under scrutiny. Why are you happy to mimimise the girls' feelings?

He is also a child. Unless he is literally following them around every minute of the school day, how can he possibly be recording their every movement? Don’t be so ridiculous. Why are you happy to paint a boy who had had his personal files shared without his consent, stuff that sounds very similar to the diaries described by numerous PP, as some sort of demented stalker?

shuggles · 12/06/2026 22:20

thestudio · 12/06/2026 22:05

It's not off-topic. Your point about what girls did to you was irrelevant, because those things were not done within a world in which you faced constant threats, both big and small, from women, and in which the possibilities of your life were not circumscribed by that fact.

It's actually quite easy to understand.

I don't understand what you are saying. My point was clear in that understanding that other people are offensive and will say/write things you don't like, and accepting that there's nothing you can do to change that, is an aspect of maturity for all people.

chocoluv · 12/06/2026 22:18
  • The Child is in tech crew and has pro camera which is allowed to carry around at school events. Also has access to school media folders
  • school hasn’t withdrawn this and he is still clicking pictures for school. How do you think this makes the girls feel?

If it is a school camera and laptop etc then I assume these are checked regularly.

I would not be happy but he’s done nothing illegal and the issue has been dealt with.

The school are simply asking that the students stop the witch hunt because it’s been dealt with.

If you don’t think it’s been dealt with enough, then speak to the head and say exactly what you want to happen.
If it’s reasonable then the head may comply.

If you’re asking for him to move schools etc that isn’t going to happen and so you need to think carefully about what exactly it is you want as a punishment/to stop it happening again.

I would be extremely surprised that he can keep his ‘job’ if the school was concerned about his behaviour.
They would get into more trouble than he would if this escalated.

Dery · 12/06/2026 22:13

“It's their world, so yes, it is dramatic for the girls involved. To know that within the school environment - an environment they cannot avoid being in - they were being watched, recorded, commented upon and photographed and/or their photographs on school media collated by this boy. Which may not be illegal in itself, but this doesn't stop the girls, now they know about it, being self conscious about it and creeped out by it, never mind potentially feeling harassed and embarrassed knowing everybody knows they were/are under scrutiny. Why are you happy to mimimise the girls' feelings?”

This with bells on.

@Savethegirls - i completely agree that the instruction to the girls that they should just suck this up and continue to include this lad is so wrong i have no words for it. The mesages that sends are so wrong and i find it really depressing that in 2026 girls are being told that they have to put the feelings of some lad who’s crossed boundaries ahead of their own; that they need to be nice and prioritise him. So wrong.

nocoolnamesleft · 12/06/2026 22:11

He’s a stalker in training.

YouputthetwatinKathleen · 12/06/2026 22:10

SnappyUmberLion · 12/06/2026 22:01

Having their every move recorded? How dramatic!

They are children and this is the tiny world they have to inhabit, just like the boy in question inhabits it and is feeling exposed by his behaviour being outed to his peers. It's their world, so yes, it is dramatic for the girls involved. To know that within the school environment - an environment they cannot avoid being in - they were being watched, recorded, commented upon and photographed and/or their photographs on school media collated by this boy. Which may not be illegal in itself, but this doesn't stop the girls, now they know about it, being self conscious about it and creeped out by it, never mind potentially feeling harassed and embarrassed knowing everybody knows they were/are under scrutiny. Why are you happy to mimimise the girls' feelings?