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AIBU to dislike David Hockney for opposing the smoking ban?

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Bertiebiscuit · 12/06/2026 14:33

I always disliked David Hockney for his campaign against the Smoking indoors in public places ban, probably the best thing the then sensible Labour government did for public health and predictably the Guardian supported him - that rag is always on the wrong side of history. No doubt he would have lived longer had he had any sense. That legislation brought in stop smoking clinics, trained smoking cessation counsellors and inspired stop smoking aids like nicotine replacement therapy. Probably the biggest positive change in public health since sewers and soap. One selfish old man with no children did his level best to interfere, we should not deify him.

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Neveragainplease · 15/06/2026 22:33

MissMoneyFairy · 12/06/2026 15:37

Selfish old man with no children? Wow, just wow.

Does that poster think that about his sister who also had no children?

SallySall · 15/06/2026 22:26

Ah those disgusting people without children daring to have an opinion!! Especially one that’s a tiny bit controversial! I can’t believe no one made him aware that you can’t have any opinions in life whatsoever unless you have reproduced! No one without children should be allowed to say anything quite honestly. They’re all just selfish and immature and never think of anyone but themselves. Quite frankly I can’t even believe they’re allowed to vote.

🙄

ScratchyPants · 15/06/2026 22:02

I want to ban everyone who uses the word ban or suggests something is banned for any reason.

Petrolitis · 15/06/2026 22:00

What a nasty and utterly needless OP

Valeriekat · 15/06/2026 21:57

You typify the bossy. End bossiness soon!

Arlanymor · 14/06/2026 16:51

Yet another 'hit and run' post. These are getting so tedious. At least come back and defend your position, or say that you have reconsidered. It's not hard. It just looks like cowardice otherwise.

Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 13:05

mumumental · 14/06/2026 11:31

Occasionally!

Then you are fine with people thinking your opinions are weird, presumably?

mumumental · 14/06/2026 11:31

Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 10:51

But do you call all opinions that differ from your own ‘ridiculous’?

Occasionally!

Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 11:15

I admit I saw his work for the first time on the news report that he had died.

SqueakyFromme · 14/06/2026 11:01

Pool with two figures ❤️

SqueakyFromme · 14/06/2026 10:59

MyBeautifulRaven · 12/06/2026 14:49

Interested to know if they were buying ready-made lasagnes.

Or haranguing staff for perfect chip pairing tips

Littlepog · 14/06/2026 10:57

I’d have to see whether your artistic talents were comparable to decide.

LlynTegid · 14/06/2026 10:53

I can appreciate someone's work without agreeing on everything they believed in.

Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 10:51

mumumental · 14/06/2026 10:48

“Weird” is subjective. The fact you care could be called weird, for example.

But do you call all opinions that differ from your own ‘ridiculous’?

mumumental · 14/06/2026 10:48

“Weird” is subjective. The fact you care could be called weird, for example.

Anarchy99 · 14/06/2026 10:24

mumumental · 13/06/2026 23:07

I like his art but he was being ridiculous on that subject. Why should other people be subjected to his second hand smoke? I’ve noticed from reading interviews with him that he was aware of health issues with that in non smokers. Some people just think you make an exception for them. But like I said, his art was great.

He was still entitled to his opinion -you don’t have to agree but to call it ridiculous is weird. And only happens on MN where smokers and dog owners are the worst kind of people.

mumumental · 13/06/2026 23:07

I like his art but he was being ridiculous on that subject. Why should other people be subjected to his second hand smoke? I’ve noticed from reading interviews with him that he was aware of health issues with that in non smokers. Some people just think you make an exception for them. But like I said, his art was great.

Luddite26 · 13/06/2026 22:44

RIP David Hockney. Beautiful man. Beautiful artist. Beautiful art.
I'm not a smoker but I admired him for his stance.
OP you are obviously entitled to your opinion any time. But I doubt you will leave your mark in any way shape or form compared to this great artist.

Prombles · 13/06/2026 20:19

Firstly, disagreeing with his views on smoking needn't stop you appreciating his work, if you like it. Even if you don't personally like his work, you can't deny its general popularity and influence.

I also think the smoking indoors ban was handled badly. I thought, and still think, they should have allowed licensed smoking venues. There could have been an exemption on anyone feeling obliged to work in one (as there are exemptions for job-seekers being expected to apply for certain jobs now, e.g. in licensed sex shops).

Why didn't they do this? Because they knew that 'smoking pubs' would have been rammed to the rafters and non-smoking pubs would've been empty 😆

But you are perfectly entitled to disagree with Hockney's stance.

Tabarnak · 13/06/2026 20:13

Pollyanna87 · 13/06/2026 10:08

Well, I’d never cared for his art, anyway! He just seemed like a miserable old man.

As for Caravaggio, his art is undeniably stunning, but definitely tainted by the fact that he was a murderer and a paedophile. The Walker art gallery had Caravaggio’s Cupid on display earlier this year, and I did find it quite sickening to look at knowing he was abusing the boy who modelled Cupid. Of course, Hockney being a grumpy old man doesn’t compare to that!

He wasn’t grumpy, he celebrated life and stayed youthful and active in his thinking as he continued to explore new ways of seeing things even for new works this year. So not set in his ways.

His range of ‘merch’ for his current exhibition is playful and rebellious. He urges us all to look at our world and celebrate what we see, aesthetically.

He was also generous with sharing his views, explaining. His portraits, from early ones of his Mum and Dad to ones this year of one of his carers are warm, sensitive, attentive and full of admiration.

So I’m interested in What evidence you have for grumpiness.

Foundress · 13/06/2026 19:43

Thank you. No matter. I am just glad that most people have made their appreciation of David Hockney clear on this thread Blossom. I see OP has not yet returned maybe she has nipped out for a tab😂.

BIossomtoes · 13/06/2026 16:08

I find it really sad that this thread has attracted so much more attention than yours @Foundress. The heartening thing is the number of posts filled with appreciation and love for Hockney.

Foundress · 13/06/2026 14:39

I fully approve of the word ‘tab’ for a cigarette it takes me back to my youth in the North East. I fully approve of David Hockney’s right to his opinion. As far as I know he didn’t go round puffing smoke into unsuspecting people’s faces indoors. I love his art it’s colourful and happy like the man himself was. I said this on the thread I started yesterday when his death was announced. I think if I am lucky enough to reach nearly 89 years of age I would be happy with that. I say that as a non smoker.

CoffeeCantata · 13/06/2026 14:23

David Hockney remained true to his real self. He kept his Yorkshire accent and spoke his mind. He was authentic.

I've never heard him say anything 'offensive' (whatever that means...) - he was just honest about his opinions, and that's refreshing these days. So many famous people say what we all want to hear, or are terrified of being cancelled by such people as OP!

I thought everyone knew that famous artists are known for being rebellious, sometimes angry, provocative and unconventional. What does/did OP expect??

Whosthetabbynow · 13/06/2026 14:22

Did he oppose the smoking ban? I didn’t know that. I like him even more now