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Should they describe this menu item better

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holidaybubble · 12/06/2026 13:06

Went to a cafe for the first time it’s not for profit and does stuff for the community. I had been wanting to try it out for a while and finally went to day with my toddler I checked the menu to see if he would eat anything and saw baked beans. I ordered him baked beans on toast with a sausage turns out the beans where homemade and spiced Aibu to think they should state this on the menu as there is a big difference between tinned and home made. I said to the girl behind the counter it was my first time coming she could have said did I know the beans were spiced when ordering for my son. Obviously he refused to eat them.

not linked to my Aibu but my full English came with toast and I got toast for him too. The wait for food was long so they gave me my son’s toast early which I hadn’t asked for. I then didn’t revive my toast with my meal and he then had no toast for his beans. I would have said something but my son was screaming as he was hungry and pushing his pot of beans and spitting them out so I just inhaled mine and left. The person that also works there had gone upstairs and I didn’t want to wait.

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Rubbleonthedouble2 · 12/06/2026 18:07

I would provide feedback that spicy beans should be labelled as such, and that you had to wait 20 minutes for toast. They can't improve if they don't know what customers are unhappy about.

OneThreadOnlybyN · 12/06/2026 18:05

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:16

I don't think she is joking.

It isn't such an unthinkable idea - and certainly not "pretentious" - that people might think food was being prepared from scratch. Yes, in a motorway kitchen or, for me, a bed n breakfast type set up where they don't have a full kitchen.

To me it is a sign of how low our expectations around food have fallen as a nation that this would be seen as somehow extraordinary.

You don't under taken beans on toast because you want a gourmet meal, you order because you want standard baked beans on toast. Especially if ordering for a 1 year old.

if I want handcrafted food I don't go to a basic cafe. When
i gi to a basic cafe, I want simple basic food where I know what I'm getting.

AelitaQueenofMars · 12/06/2026 18:03

TeaPot496 · 12/06/2026 16:56

What have I found?

A load of pretentious contrary twats arguing that they have always been served the finest gourmet bean, shat out by Ramsey himself? And they have never met a tinned baked bean in the outside world?

I think you would be surprised how much food service is just Brakes.

Anyone would assume baked beans means just that, it wouldn't enter most people's heads to ask.

You summed it up beautifully 😆

TeaPot496 · 12/06/2026 18:03

ByRoseBiscuit · 12/06/2026 18:00

Mumsnet is another planet sometimes. Who’s seriously asking what type of beans are being served for “beans on toast”?! In real life everyone would just assume it was tinned beans like you did OP, it should have said if it was something different from the norm.

Especially in a charity cafe.

TeaPot496 · 12/06/2026 18:02

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 18:01

I think that is absolutely true actually.

There is an interesting document by the Food Foundation UK which addresses the status of beans - and legumes generally, in fact - in UK diets. You get them a lot more in other cuisines - Mexican obviously (!), but think also of French soupe au pistou, puy lentils, and plenty of Italian dishes, and things like hummus from chickpea, and chickpea tagines etc.

The Food foundation states that "Diets that are low in legumes are associated with up to 9,000 premature deaths in the UK each year (Global Burden of Disease Collaborative Network, 2021)". I'm not sure how they worked that out with exactitude, but I do accept their general point which is that having only an emergency Heinz tin in the pantry is a bit of a blind-spot on what is a fabulous nutritional resource.

They are a superfood, and such a great comfort food too.

Agree. I need to get a good bean cookbook. I don't eat enough protein.

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 18:01

DappledThings · 12/06/2026 17:45

I think you're extrapolating a lot from beans! I think most people don't put beans in the same category as a lot of other foods. And that distinction is not, in and of itself, indicative of a lowering of culinary standards.

I think that is absolutely true actually.

There is an interesting document by the Food Foundation UK which addresses the status of beans - and legumes generally, in fact - in UK diets. You get them a lot more in other cuisines - Mexican obviously (!), but think also of French soupe au pistou, puy lentils, and plenty of Italian dishes, and things like hummus from chickpea, and chickpea tagines etc.

The Food foundation states that "Diets that are low in legumes are associated with up to 9,000 premature deaths in the UK each year (Global Burden of Disease Collaborative Network, 2021)". I'm not sure how they worked that out with exactitude, but I do accept their general point which is that having only an emergency Heinz tin in the pantry is a bit of a blind-spot on what is a fabulous nutritional resource.

They are a superfood, and such a great comfort food too.

ByRoseBiscuit · 12/06/2026 18:00

Mumsnet is another planet sometimes. Who’s seriously asking what type of beans are being served for “beans on toast”?! In real life everyone would just assume it was tinned beans like you did OP, it should have said if it was something different from the norm.

OneThreadOnlybyN · 12/06/2026 17:58

katepilar · 12/06/2026 17:27

I wouldnt expected baked beans to come out of a tin in a cafe.

Then the VAST majority of the time you'd be disappointed UNLESS (which I doubt) you mean you'd scorch them to come out of a catering style container (generally a huge plastic lidded 'tub')

OneThreadOnlybyN · 12/06/2026 17:54

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:42

I guess it might be reasonable, but I do feel a bit depressed by that, which is what I first said. The more "reasonable," the more depressing I find it. I do think we fall behind other countries in terms of our expectations around food.

You feel depressed by that?

Good God how do you get through life.

OneThreadOnlybyN · 12/06/2026 17:52

toastofthetown · 12/06/2026 15:49

In my experience as someone who makes her own baked beans and has had a mix of homemade and tinned beans served in cafes, homemade beans look significantly different to tinned beans. I’d be very surprised if a baby or toddler took them for the same dish on looks.

💁🏻‍♀️even if they didn't (and I kind of disagree as I think some home made style baked beans look similar enough to a 1 yo) they don't have a developed enough taste/knowledge to determine that 'it must be the spices making this taste hirrud' I'll just swallow thus, have a drink & nit gave any more.

if it tastes horrible to a 1 yo they're going to react as nature intended & spit it out. It's not naughty, it's self preservation.

NasiDagang · 12/06/2026 17:46

So many bonkers people on Mumsnet.😂 This thread is bringing out the crazy people!!

DappledThings · 12/06/2026 17:45

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:42

I guess it might be reasonable, but I do feel a bit depressed by that, which is what I first said. The more "reasonable," the more depressing I find it. I do think we fall behind other countries in terms of our expectations around food.

I think you're extrapolating a lot from beans! I think most people don't put beans in the same category as a lot of other foods. And that distinction is not, in and of itself, indicative of a lowering of culinary standards.

Jllllllll · 12/06/2026 17:44

Sadly this is the problem when children are fed what is deemed to be ‘kids food’ rather than eating what adults eat. I would think that after a class when you know he will be hungry and probably tired as well maybe wasn’t the best time to try this place. And if it didn’t work out chalk it up to experience. There will be plenty more before he hits 18!

RaininSummer · 12/06/2026 17:43

Can't believe I have just spent way too long reading a debate about baked beans 😄

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:42

DappledThings · 12/06/2026 17:38

I'm sure it does but it is still entirely reasonable for someone to assume that beans on toast on a children's menu in a café means beans out of a tin in a standard tomato sauce.

I guess it might be reasonable, but I do feel a bit depressed by that, which is what I first said. The more "reasonable," the more depressing I find it. I do think we fall behind other countries in terms of our expectations around food.

DappledThings · 12/06/2026 17:38

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:24

Baked refers to the cooking method, not the flavourings.

I'm sure it does but it is still entirely reasonable for someone to assume that beans on toast on a children's menu in a café means beans out of a tin in a standard tomato sauce.

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:33

Anyway, after all this talk about them, I'm now about to make them for tonight! Perfect easy meal. It's all in my pot in under five minutes then bake ...

TeaPot496 · 12/06/2026 17:30

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 12/06/2026 17:22

Teapot I think they would be baked beans from a tin...

Yes, they all were.

The only times I have ever had anything different they were described as something different, of course, which is why I chose them (no offense to tinned baked beans!)

toastofthetown · 12/06/2026 17:28

toastandegg · 12/06/2026 16:46

I definitely think they should have mentioned- I have an allergy to chilli which includes paprika and would have been quite ill

Every restaurant or cafe I’ve been to in the last several years has asked if there are any allergies or dietary requirements. If you say no because you’ve made assumptions about what is or isn’t in the food you haven’t prepared that’s on you.

katepilar · 12/06/2026 17:27

I wouldnt expected baked beans to come out of a tin in a cafe.

TeaPot496 · 12/06/2026 17:26

I can't imagine anyone who thinks OP was being unreasonable has any idea of the costs or profit margins in this industry. The majority of venues cannot afford to have someone slaving over "baked beans"

The cafe is run not for profit, so even less reason to think you would be getting anything different or elevated.

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:24

chocoluv · 12/06/2026 17:17

If I ordered baked beans, I would expect beans in tomato sauce like in the tin - not spicy beans.

YANBU

Baked refers to the cooking method, not the flavourings.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 12/06/2026 17:22

Teapot I think they would be baked beans from a tin...

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:22

DappledThings · 12/06/2026 17:19

Tinned in all of them except maybe number 3. Although also wouldn't expect anything on the menu of number 3 to feature beans so it's moot.

They're such an innocuous item I would be surprised by anyone bothering to make. I wouldn't put them in the same category as a pasta sauce or something that I would absolutely to be made fresh.

Well, see you have a bar too, and it's pasta sauce - which can perfectly easily be bought in a jar, yet you don't seem to feel that is "twatty."

Baked beans are every bit as easy - and truly delicious. If you do them in an iron pot they get that deep rich iron flavour of homecooked stews. And you can customise them - which is part of the joy. My DH likes bacon bits. I like a good whack of chilli and fresh parsley.

DappledThings · 12/06/2026 17:21

Calliopespa · 12/06/2026 17:16

I don't think she is joking.

It isn't such an unthinkable idea - and certainly not "pretentious" - that people might think food was being prepared from scratch. Yes, in a motorway kitchen or, for me, a bed n breakfast type set up where they don't have a full kitchen.

To me it is a sign of how low our expectations around food have fallen as a nation that this would be seen as somehow extraordinary.

Maybe that's the difference. I consider them to be pretty much a condiment rather than a proper food. Which is why I wouldn't expect them to be homemade any more than I would expect the mayonnaise to be. But I would expect a proper dish and its elements to be homemade.