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Enid Blyton - what's been edited out/changed??

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Distantview · 12/06/2026 11:53

Have picked up a 2021 version of The Magic Faraway tree. I used to love this series as a child.

It has a disclaimer about being edited to meet modern standards.

Now I'm trying to work out what was in the original that would be offensive today - does anyone know?

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/06/2026 13:29

Racist terms as pp said should be removed.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/06/2026 13:29

ItsGregg · 12/06/2026 12:48

I wonder if Mr Pinkwhistle books still exist?

Amazon sells it. Is the issue because he’s half brownie (what’s that?) and half human?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/06/2026 13:21

Dollymylove · 12/06/2026 12:58

As a child i was an avid reader of Enid Blyton. The famous five, the secret seven, the Five findouters, with Frederick Algernon Trotsville, AKA "Fatty"
I can confirm that I didnt grow up to a racist sexist homophobic fat shamer 😆

Quite. You’d think they were nazi propaganda the way people carry on.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/06/2026 13:19

I found an old Enid Blyton bible stories one in a charity shop and gave it to DNephew (7) who’s not religious. He knows nothing about the bible apart from Easter and Christmas. Little heathen. I’m sure it needs updating and prob isn’t PC but I didn’t check it before giving it to his mum.

Verite1 · 12/06/2026 13:02

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:24

Also, as with Dame Slap, other references to corporal punishment have been removed, and incidents such as Darrell slapping Gwen in MT made non physical.

Though why the Darrell and Gwen slapping was changed I really don't know, as it wasn't condoned at all in the original and Darrell herself was deeply ashamed of it once she'd calmed down.

That's odd as I read these recently with DD (new versions not old) and the slap was def still there.

Dollymylove · 12/06/2026 12:58

As a child i was an avid reader of Enid Blyton. The famous five, the secret seven, the Five findouters, with Frederick Algernon Trotsville, AKA "Fatty"
I can confirm that I didnt grow up to a racist sexist homophobic fat shamer 😆

RaininSummer · 12/06/2026 12:58

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

What this poster says. It's all a learning moment about how things have changed.

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:58

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:55

Yes you do have a point, there are probably different categories of offense. Racist names/terms can get in the bin, but changing details like how a woman is sterotyped as a homemaker shouldn't, as that serves as a historical text and I want my daughters to understand how women were represented in the past.

Yes, I think that's a fair line to draw.

Becuriousnotjudgemental1980 · 12/06/2026 12:57

When I read Malory Towers as a child there was a scene where a girl goes into the dining hall and she’s forgotten to put her blouse on. That’s not in the version my daughter read!

ohyesido · 12/06/2026 12:56

CaesarAugusta · 12/06/2026 12:44

Really? I read Famous Five in the 1950s, and the name then was definitely Timmy.

Are you sure this hasn't somehow been conflated with Dambusters film, which did feature a dog with that name?

I stand corrected it was Operation Chastise that had the racial dog

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 12:56

LittleGreenDragons · 12/06/2026 12:53

Well, that's three bad words so no wonder! 😱

😁

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:55

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:50

I fully agree with removing racial slurs from children's books, simply because if they read them independently they may lack the context to be aware that those words are highly, highly offensive.

It would be awful for the victim if a child innocently used such a word and caused deep hurt and offence, and awful for a well-intentioned child to be led into causing distress and anger.

I don't agree with removing harmlessly dated things such as pre-decimal currency and old-fashioned names and concepts.

Yes you do have a point, there are probably different categories of offense. Racist names/terms can get in the bin, but changing details like how a woman is sterotyped as a homemaker shouldn't, as that serves as a historical text and I want my daughters to understand how women were represented in the past.

x2boys · 12/06/2026 12:54

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

Yes its not that difficult im 52 and was born after decimilation so wasent familiar with old money either but figured it out.

scalt · 12/06/2026 12:53

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:46

I remember reading my original version of the Secret Garden to my daughter. That took a lot of changing as I read!

Yes, very British Empire. Martha’s comment with “white” and “respectable” next to each other has not aged well. I dare not quote it in full here!

LittleGreenDragons · 12/06/2026 12:53

MorrisonsPlatter · 12/06/2026 11:54

Lashings of ginger beer

Well, that's three bad words so no wonder! 😱

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:50

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

I fully agree with removing racial slurs from children's books, simply because if they read them independently they may lack the context to be aware that those words are highly, highly offensive.

It would be awful for the victim if a child innocently used such a word and caused deep hurt and offence, and awful for a well-intentioned child to be led into causing distress and anger.

I don't agree with removing harmlessly dated things such as pre-decimal currency and old-fashioned names and concepts.

ItsGregg · 12/06/2026 12:48

I wonder if Mr Pinkwhistle books still exist?

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 12:48

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 12:46

I don't think anything should be changed in children's classic stories.
A warning that some words, acts and expressions used when the book was written would be considered racist or improper today should be enough.

This

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:46

Melarus · 12/06/2026 12:39

We had a lot of old story books, hand-me-downs and such, and I used to change them on the fly as I was reading. Mostly the racist and fat-shaming stuff, but also the scene in Richard Scarry where Farmer Alfalfa, being the breadwinner, buys Mrs Alfafa a pair of earrings as a reward "for looking after the house and children so well". She is delighted - not least because the earrings are in the shape of mini egg-beaters. Know your place, wives!

I remember reading my original version of the Secret Garden to my daughter. That took a lot of changing as I read!

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:46

ComtesseDeSpair · 12/06/2026 12:41

Creating narratives and characters which child audiences can identify with is really important in encouraging readers, particularly reluctant readers, to engage with reading. If changing names and currency and small parts of narrative encourages more children to identify better with what they’re reading and want to continue to read, that’s a good achievement. Enid Blyton wanted her books to encourage children to read, to imagine, and to be inspired, and I don’t think she’d be upset that her books were able to continue to do that generations on.

The UK’s demographic is also very different now to what it was when the books were written for an almost universally white audience: for white children today, some things in the books might just be politically incorrect; for children of other racial backgrounds, it’s devastating to read derogatory things about people like you. Publishers do have a duty to amend future publications to acknowledge that.

No, publishers do not have a duty to revise texts. Add warnings, context, yes. But their main duty should be to publish texts by writers from many different backgrounds (and pay them equally) so that people can choose not to read Enid Blyton.

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 12:46

I don't think anything should be changed in children's classic stories.
A warning that some words, acts and expressions used when the book was written would be considered racist or improper today should be enough.

Sartre · 12/06/2026 12:45

I’ll play devils advocate and say changing Dick and Fanny is less about being PC and more about kids bursting with laughter and basically not being able to read it properly as a result.

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:44

... and the Galliano offensive name is still in my edition published in 1976! Unfortunately highly offensive language like that was kept well beyond first editions of books. It's also in a number of 'Jennings' books - again, the 1970s Armada editions, not first editions. But Timmy was always called Timmy, thankfully.

scalt · 12/06/2026 12:44

mostly from the Famous Five.

Spankings- now telling off.
Golly- now whew.
Shillings.
Kit bags: now rucksacks.
Shorts- now jeans.

To name but a few.

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

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