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To run a cub scout camp

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Scoutleader01809 · 11/06/2026 21:42

I am a man without children in his 20s but my mum said it's ok for me to ask questions here so here goes.

I have been a Cub (8-10 boys and girls) scout leader for about 10 years, running a week-long camp in the summer, less than an hour drive away from home, for those 10 years minus Covid. Past few years have become harder and harder to get signups.

I have great memories and experiences from camps I did at that age and older, every year the kids enjoy themselves on camp. It's hugely shaped me to become the adult I am today and most of my freinds are people I went to scouts with. I honestly believe scouting is a great organisation for teaching kids resilience and independence, and that's why I give up 5+ hours a week to scouting.

This year in particular has been a nightmare, almost none of the parents want to send their kids, camp is about £200 but it's an affluent area, we offer discounts to those who need so I doubt it's the cost. Some are genuinely on holiday but a lot of them genuinely insist it's to much for their child often telling me about how 20 years ago in brownies they didn't enjoy camping or that they would miss their child (am I wrong to think that they shouldn't worry about whether they will miss their child but only whether their child will have a good time?).

I hear about a lot of groups who have trouble running overnights and assumed their leaders were the probelm but now starting to question if that's just the parents of today.

I have a WhatsAppgroup with the parents and put photos in of the kids everyday enjoying themselves, I had to make it admins only a few years ago when the parents ask stupid questions like why does my child look tired, why are they wearing a jumper, I now get those questions in DM.

The kids sleep in canvas tents, sing campfire songs, do activities like archery and kayaking, play in the woods, I can't get how being on a screen or sitting bored in holiday camp is even remotely comparable.

I might cancel the camp, I might suffer through the 5 parents who have 'volunteered to help' to come along as a condition to their children attending then just stop running longer camps and only do 1 or 2 night camps. Ultimately, they're less prepared for longer scout and explorer camps, and it's a spiral until you get 18-year-olds unready to go to university.

I don't get it, I know I don't have kids and maybe I will feel different if/ when I do but I don't feel I am a bad person for suggesting their children would benefit from some experiences away from their parents.

YABU- You're the pied piper of hamelin
YANBU- Parents are being to precious and camp sounds great

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tinyspiny · 11/06/2026 21:59

I think it’s too long and the cost . I was a beaver and cub leader when my kids were growing up and the longest camp under canvas was 4 nights and I think that is plenty for most children of that age .

Conchiglie · 11/06/2026 21:59

I think age 8-10 is young to go on a residential camp for several nights. I don't think that means they won't be ready to go to university at 18 (I have a child at uni who is managing fine).

Scoutleader01809 · 11/06/2026 21:59

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 11/06/2026 21:48

£200?!?!

my youngest son is going on cub camp next weekend. It’s £65…

It's 5 days, so about £40 a night and has some activites, a printed shirt, we do get pizza on the last night. A weekend camp I would charge about £60. It's been around that price for a few years because the area we're in no one has seemed to mind. In future, I might try to make it cheaper.

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Specialtoday · 11/06/2026 21:59

It seems too long for that age group.

JohnnyFedora · 11/06/2026 21:59

£200 for a cub camp???

That's super expensive.

Seeingadistance · 11/06/2026 21:58

Scoutleader01809 · 11/06/2026 21:57

Maybe that's a part of their worry.

The initial plan had 4 adults including myself, all DBS checked and done scouting safeguarding training which is pretty good.

Leaders should never be 1 to 1 with a child, don't befreind children, don't promise to keep secrets, should report all concerns to our safeguarding team etc. Safeguarding is something we take seriously and have a lot of written rules around.

So, if that was the initial plan, what's the plan now?

Notmytelescope · 11/06/2026 21:58

I think it might be the week part that is the stumbling block. All our cub camps are only a weekend - Friday to Sunday. I think a week away is too long for many kids of this age and also makes it expensive ( although 200 for a week residential is great value).
it’s also likely to be easier to find other volunteers and parent helpers for 2 nights instead of 7. Most people with jobs and families just don’t have a week they can devote to cub camp.

Maybe try cutting back to weekend camps and seeing if the uptake improves.

in my experience longer camps are normally only for the older sections. In our group only the Explorers go for longer than 3 nights away on any given trip.

Silverbirchleaf · 11/06/2026 21:58

I would shorten the camps to weekends only. It’s a shame as o have happy memories of guide camps.

Seeingadistance · 11/06/2026 21:58

I have no involvement with Scouting, but in my village the Cubs just a one-night camp. A week seems far too long for that age-group and is also more likely to be disruptive to family plans for the summer holidays.

Scoutleader01809 · 11/06/2026 21:57

grapefruit100 · 11/06/2026 21:47

Are you the only adult with the kids (except the parents?)
What are your safeguarding procedures?
Camp sounds great but maybe you’re missing something.

Maybe that's a part of their worry.

The initial plan had 4 adults including myself, all DBS checked and done scouting safeguarding training which is pretty good.

Leaders should never be 1 to 1 with a child, don't befreind children, don't promise to keep secrets, should report all concerns to our safeguarding team etc. Safeguarding is something we take seriously and have a lot of written rules around.

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helpfulperson · 11/06/2026 21:54

How long is it? We've definitely found cub camps are better capped at 2 nights. Even scout camps are shorter, often 4 nights.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 11/06/2026 21:48

£200?!?!

my youngest son is going on cub camp next weekend. It’s £65…

grapefruit100 · 11/06/2026 21:47

Are you the only adult with the kids (except the parents?)
What are your safeguarding procedures?
Camp sounds great but maybe you’re missing something.