To despair at this government??

Another thread like this, wildly overstating the apparently uniquely terrible state of our country.

Stop reading the internet and look out the window.

Things are not great. There are lots of big issues. But is this a uniquely terrible time for us, or are we a uniquely incompetent nation? Or course not. God, look around. Every western nation is struggling in various ways. To suggest that we are aj international laughing stock is absurd. Not only are we not anywhere near bad enough for that, but nobody else cares because they have their own problems.

The problems are easy to point out. Easy solutions are not, and we should be very wary of those who suggest differently. It's dead easy for any politician to just point to problems. But am legitimate complaint about labour is that they came in by doing that and without having done the hard work to come up with a workable alternative. Yet they are making slow progress in many places. People calling for them to go need to point to a better alternative. Depressingly I don't think there is an obvious one.

I saw a report that came out at the end of the last government. State pension is around 30 per cent of mean income. The triple lock is being used to bring this figure up to about 33 per cent. Then it will be a single lock on mean earnings.

No they wouldn’t. Anyway, it will end up being imposed on pensions and working benefits, so it’s a false choice.

TBH Labour are timid. They are horrifically unpopular for what? I mean, that is the joke. If you are going to be horrifically unpopular you may as well legislate and push forward a strong agenda. They don’t even do that!

Its often said that the public have short memories when it comes to politics

This thread shows this to be very true

op I suggest you stop reading/listening/watching the news as you are obviously struggling with taking on new news and recalling correct information of the past maybe its overload for you and you are getting confused which is leading to a state of high anxiety

OAPS might accept scrapping the triple lock, if working age benefits were also cut, particularly to foreign born people.

Then they shouldn’t have done it! They capitulated to the masses, much like what’s happening right now with everything that’s running the country into the ground. Where are the strong politicians?!

Its often said that the public have short memories when it comes to politics

This thread shows this to be very true

op I suggest you stop reading/listening/watching the news as you are obviously struggling with taking on new news and recalling correct information of the past maybe its overload for you and you are getting confused which is leading to a state of high anxiety

Its often said that the public have short memories when it comes to politics

This thread shows this to be very true

op I suggest you stop reading/listening/watching the news as you are obviously struggling with taking on new news and recalling correct information of the past maybe its overload for you and you are getting confused which is leading to a state of high anxiety

To be fair, if you're going to shut down people's businesses and livelihood, there had to be compensation for that.

Furlough introduced people to the idea of free money from the government. It should have been loans similar to student loans that people paid back when their incomes recovered.

Furlough introduced people to the idea of free money from the government. It should have been loans similar to student loans that people paid back when their incomes recovered.

Furlough introduced people to the idea of free money from the government. It should have been loans similar to student loans that people paid back when their incomes recovered.

I thought that too. Public sector and people relying on benefits perhaps?

I thought that too. Public sector and people relying on benefits perhaps?

Well you won’t hear me disagree on benefits, that was incoherent. Labour got a large majority because it offered a centrist position, and the implication for finances was cuts and taxes. Not just taxes

Absolutely staggered that 42% of voters actually think this Labour government is doing a good job! 😂

Yeah because the Tories did so well? There would have been far less corruption if Labour had been in power during covid, and at least Starmer would not have been partying whilst the rest of us were in lockdown. But let’s face it, whatever they do will be wrong for some people.

Actually it is a plan as if it wasn’t they would be actively trying to work against that model, and they are not.

They have the ability to bring in legislation to counteract pinch points and what they have done instead is drive growth down by making it more difficult to operate businesses and more expensive to employ staff whilst simultaneously adding billions to the welfare bill - any savings they had planned were u-turned on due to back bencher opposition.

Well I don’t actually think it’s a plan. But it is what we have.

Growth agenda is??

I thought Ireland had a huge problem with housing due to the influx of workers when the American tech bros used it for tax avoidance. I might be remembering wrong though.