To say to my boss during a team meeting that his speech was unprofessional

Sounds like a scene out of that series "Industry".

Doesn't matter what we think when subordinate. Now OP regrets life choices and is worried for her job. Common sense would have helped before the tantrum.

I don't think it's good or normal practice to threaten a team with being sacked almost casually. And I've worked in very cutthroat places where it was absolutely clear what would happen if your performance wasn't up to scratch. Even then there would be formal processes where people would be given feedback and a chance to improve in a proper way.

I don't think you did or said anything wrong at all. I work in finance too and banks tend to be places robust discussions are allowed?

Either way - bull by the horns - get a one to one in with him (just put it in his diary) and address head on, that you were aware he may have been a bit surprised by your comments on the team meeting and did he want to discuss further. If he's upset he can have a chance to say so and you can have a chance to apologize for hurting his feelings (not for what you said!)

Better than just waiting to be sacked right. Asking for structured feedback should not be a sackable offense.

I’m in the nhs and we’re in a permanent state for job loss fear. It’s said nicely but we all know what “difficult decisions” means. Permanently fearing job loss is probably why people have no commitment anymore. I can cope better now as I’d receive a substantial pay out due to service. I keep my head down in those meetings though.

Sounds like you were very professional and he is a mess. Does he have any idea of what he is doing?

do you have any links to his boss? Can you get a meeting with someone higher or sideways in the company who might advise?

IMO, you're being extremely unprofessional.

A senior management leader can speak how they want about operations and you disagreeing, or agreeing, bears no relevance on the reality of who holds the authority.

You are very naïve if you think senior management views you as you view yourself. Be glad that someone is transparent enough to tell you.

There is nothing dignified about termination of employment in corporate Britain.

I've seen people leave after screaming matches, in glass offices, crying, rage, etc.

Your exposure sounds limited, so don't be shocked if things happen in front of you, or to you, in future.

So you didn't shout, swear, insult or interrupt him. You were asked for your feedback on a specific issue and gave it clearly and directly. HR can't touch you for that, and nor should they wish to.

Depending which national border we're looking at, he may well be from a culture far more comfortable with plain speaking than the British. So there's a possibility this may actually improve your working relationship.

Hope it’s going ok OP

I think you were right to call him out. Hopefully you weren’t too OTT. No one can be fired for a bad report. The individual would have to be given an improvement plan, then a written warning, then a final written warning. So basically he was talking bollocks and there should be no way HR backs him over you.

I think it is great that you stood up to him. We had a similar, outrageous bullying boss, and we appreciated anyone who tried to stand up to him rather than meekly sitting there. In the end he was fired, but not before some good people had resigned because of him.
He also did a redundancy round in public, listing every staff member and saying if they'd been retained or redundant, the first time the staff being made redundant had heard about it, he was very cruel.

Fat fingers...

Also in Dutch law, firing people for misconduct is really difficult, so the types of issues he's mentioned would usually not be serious enough. It sounds to me like he's on a very unpleasant power trip

As a Dutchie, working in a Dutch non-corporate setting but familiar with them, his behaviour is really really weird and unprofessional.
In Dutch, like in English, there's a huge difference between being made redundant/getting fired or taking redundancy, so it seems to me that he deliberately misrepresents what happened with those other colleagues, that's not a language problem/misunderstanding.
Also in Dutch law, firing people for misconduct is really difficult, so the types of issues he's mentioned would usua

I think well done you! He invited your thoughts and you gave them incredibly clearly and I think factually. He then apologised twice. Let’s hope it’s a wake up call and leads to either a cascade effect with others speaking up or at least a new found respect from him. Often I find meeting strength with assertion can be a turning point in that regard.

I am outspoken. My face is outspoken before I am. I am not at all difficult, in fact I am super helpful and productive but I am known for being straight talking. Honestly, it has only ever worked to my advantage. People take more care to not piss me off, bosses tend to put me on their team. You may yet have just made your life easier.

Saying to your boss they are unprofessional isn’t unreasonable, but having a meltdown about it on a teams meetings sounds pretty unreasonable. So it depends what exactly happened really

He sounds like a massive twat. Are you in PMO, OP?

There are ways to make the point if you think your boss is being unprofessional.

What you did is not one of the better options.

Later and privately is generally preferred.

If you have a recording, you should look back over it

You need to make a calm analysis to see if there's anything to worry about

However, you are right

But this is such a common thing with senior management, I suspect he was asked to do that

Is it possible that they're making redundancies, and they want to try and piss people off so that they leave and they will have fewer packages to pay?

I have been subjected to this kind of meeting that went on for about three hours and everybody was just completely knocked out afterwards

This was an in person meeting a few years ago

We never found out what the purpose of the meeting was. But it was like taking the best performing team and telling them they weren't good enough for three hours

I don't think they wanted any of us to leave because they were fine after that meeting

One reason I left the workplace so early is because I just don't want to put up with this anymore

I realise most people have a financial situation that means they do have to put up with it - but any company that behaves like this should realise some of their best staff will just go - unless it's a deliberate attempt to get rid of some of the ones who are close to retirement?

There may be some short-term crude objective that's achieved by this sort of thing but when it happened to me, I couldn't see what it was

I think it was meant to be motivating, but it had a complete opposite effect