AIBU to think USA has gone crazy - Karmelo Anthony is a murderer not a victim

Oh, lynchings still happening? Wow. Who knew?!!

KA wasn’t chased. He was asked to leave. It doesn’t matter how much you pretend this difference is irrelevant, it isn’t. It’s crucial. KA could have walked away. And nothing would have happened. If R was chased, then he was trying to get away, and the chaser prevented that. Obviously, I was not on the juries but based on that fact alone, you can see how that crucial fact could lead to different jury decisions.

It is my opinion that if the races had been reversed, Texas probably would have ruled it to be involuntary manslaughter rather than 1st degree premeditated and planned murder. This would have resulted in a much shorter sentence.

The protesters don’t believe KA is ‘the victim’ they are pointing out the negative racial bias against Black men that numerous sociological studies on the American justice system have uncovered.

It is my opinion that if the races had been reversed, Texas probably would have ruled it to be involuntary manslaughter rather than 1st degree premeditated and planned murder. This would have resulted in a much shorter sentence.

The protesters don’t believe KA is ‘the victim’ they are pointing out the negative racial bias against Black men that numerous sociological studies on the American justice system have uncovered.

And Kyle Rittenhouse murdered two. What difference does make if he was being chased or not? The premise was the same; they both took weapons out and when someone pushed back they murdered them. Why would you ask if he was being chased at all? Why would it matter? They both went out armed and murdered, but you automatically came up with an excuse for the white one (whose first victim was alone and unarmed).

And to say ‘being right wing is fine/nutty left’ in the same sentence is so telling, no matter how many fake flappy ‘oh my goodnesses’ you do. This whistle is so low people over 100 can hear it.

If you want to talk about cultures then lets talk about the fact that black people in America still get lynched and killed for simply existing....

You cannot discuss and dismiss the self defence aspect without firstly aknowledging the long term historical rascist culture black people and especially black males have to put up with, doubly so in a state like Texas.

This situation did not happen in a vacuum and people shouldn't be putting their hands on someone, that was very much a white male privelge thing to do.

Oh and @MyTwinklyMoose I’ve only ever heard one political side throw around the term ‘dog whistle’ at others so it’s a pretty clear indication of your politics.

No, but he did chase him and cornered him, then grabbed his gun.

Because, and I don’t think I can make this any clearer, his first victim
wasnt part of a mob. He was alone and unarmed. He tried to grab Rittenhouse’s gun so Rittenhouse shot him and murdered him.

I cannot see how you think that is different when the two cases are extremely similar.

You don’t know my politics because I haven’t revealed them.

When I lived in the US I found the race relations very hard to understand. There seemed so very often to be a simmering anger that was just waiting to be let out

So exactly what’s happening right now in the UK every time someone is attacked by an asylum seeker/an immigrant. The tensions are high and the anger simmering.

Why are you pretending you can’t see a difference between someone being chased by a mob intent on kicking the crap out of you, and someone between told to leave a gazebo and refusing to? I just don’t believe you can’t see that obvious difference. Your politics just aren’t allowing you to admit you can see it.

It’s unfortunate your black and white thinking doesn’t allow you to understand the rest of it. Thats on you, not me.

if a white teen had taken a knife to a sports event and stabbed a black kid during an argument, there would be riots in that state right now.

He will be eligible for parole in 17 years.

Oh and by the way, if KA had been being chased by a mob of white men ( or men of any race) , I think he would have been reasonable to use a knife in self defence, and it’s likely a jury would too. Hope that helps.

Oh my goodness, another poster with comprehension difficulties. I said the nutty side of the left. Have a think about what the phrasing means. Cos it sure as hell doesn’t mean what you conveniently misinterpreted it as.

I also didn’t defend Ritten whatever his name was. I asked ‘wasn’t he being chased by a mob?’. And the poster confirmed he was. The point being there were quite significant differences in those cases which makes it not very sensible to compare them. And certainly doesn’t take away from the fact that KA clearly murdered someone in a situation no sane person could think had justification.