AIBU to think USA has gone crazy - Karmelo Anthony is a murderer not a victim

I am not swapping them. So we are in agreement.

Are you really equating a shove or push with murder?

Black boy saying words is more threatening, aggressive and scary than a white boy pushing and shoving.

That’s exactly the kind of racism we are highlighting.

Yes KA killed and should be punished, but the punishment should match the crime and when events are filtered through lens of racism that’s when you get punishments that do not match the crime. Certain criminals are let off easy and others have the book thrown at them and are made an example of.

Right… I mean, it’s on the national news so people definitely have heard of it, but that doesn’t mean normal people are treating it like some great reckoning. Half the country probably heard “Karmelo Anthony,” thought of Carmelo Anthony for two seconds, and then moved on with their lives.

That’s funny because the Fordingbridge perpetrators are white and the public have been outraged by their ‘soft treatment’ to the extent they’re reviewing it..?

No, you don’t have a leg to stand on here.
He was in his tent
He refused to leave
He was asked multiple times
He was the one carrying a knife

Nothing you say is going to swap the victim and the aggressor here.

What worries me is how black children are seen as dangerous adults through the eyes of prejudice; things like Child Q in the UK whereas every benefit and excuse is applied to white offenders…like the man who drove into people in Liverpool who was described as a “family man”
There are complexities in the rape case you probably didn’t want to consider like 2 of the boys having very low i.q.s etc.. I don’t believe in children being handled by the justice system as if they are adults. Other countries have amazing detention schemes to actually rehabilitate child offenders.
There are many many rape cases where the perpetrators have evaded justice ..I care about them all..especially the series of ‘accidental’ strangulations

Wait, so words are aggressive provocation, but physically shoving someone is perfectly ok? Not threatening at all?

You are welcome to your opinion, but under an equal justice system using physical violence is an escalation compared to verbal threats.

It’s also important to note that KA wasn’t under any physically threat. In fact Austin had said he would not fight him.

And saying I’m not fighting you while shoving a person reminds me a bit of the American police brutality tactic where someone is complying and calmly submitting to being arrested and they start beating the shit out of them while yelling Stop resisting! Stop resisting! (because they’re only supposed to use physical force if a suspect is violently resisting arrest)

I knew nothing about this case until I googled it just now. It really is a terrible tragedy over something so apparently stupid and inane- leaving aside any accusations of racism, which as a white person who’s never been subjected to racism, I wouldn’t ever want to downplay that. I can understand why tensions are high on both sides right now. But either way, a boy is dead and multiple people including the perpetrator’s lives are ruined.

KA was sent home pre trial wasn't he?

So you agree with the Fordinbridge sentence on account of the age of the perpetrators?

That’s not entirely true, if you’re being pushed/shoved you are being physically assaulted so some level of physical threat is acknowledged.

Totally agree…it’s the context and way a young black man was adultified whilst a white boy who raped and murdered his step sister is sent home pre trial

You are repeatedly not listening and twisting what I am saying. And I am not interested in you ‘being generous’ to me. You have been rude and condescending and childish in your responses to me instead of having an adult debate, so I have no interest in replying to you any further.

Obviously not. Please reread and think about what is being said.

Yep. I’m glad the yanbu is convincingly a majority because some of the posts on this thread are bizarre.

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Except I have said repeatedly that he should have been convicted and jailed for murder, so please don’t put words in my mouth. My point is that both he and Rittenhouse should have been jailed for murder. Certain rolls on this thread are excusing one but condemning the other. That is why some people are kicking off, because of the lack of conviction for one. I think both should have been done for murder. And I don’t think 35 years for KA was enough, he stabbed that man with intent. So, please, don’t try and make out I feel differently when I have been repeatedly clear on that point.