AIBU to think USA has gone crazy - Karmelo Anthony is a murderer not a victim

So did George Floyd escalate his own death? Because he escalated by resisting the police didn’t he? Did Trayvon Martin, because he escalated by getting into an altercation with George Zimmerman? Did Renee Good escalate her own death by driving toward the police?

The knife was a multi tool with a torch a 6 in 1 multi tool ..sold at Walmart

Everything is a little more complicated than the simplistics try to claim ..there are nuances …that this mob like reaction overlooks to fit personal agendas

You can’t just kill someone because they push you. A sorry won’t cut it.

He turned himself in and was apologetic.
You seem to enjoy demonising a young Black man.
Yes he killed another young man and he should go to prison for it.
But to call it 1st degree murder is not justice,

Physical force is still physical force.
That is factually an escalation.
The motivation doesn’t change the fact it was an escalation.

You’re absolutely desperate to downplay the killer’s role in this but it’s not working on us, I’m afraid.

Yes he was a bright lad with a good future ahead of him. It’s a crying shame he threw it all away by playing the big man by carrying a knife and then whipping it out. If he had punched him and been apologetic, I would be able to understand and think he deserved another chance. But he didn’t, he murdered him. Ffs

You are a riot. I’m not a troll. You couldn’t even read two sentences in a link correctly or you gleefully misreported on them as a troll does and challenge me to post more evidence and when I post the link to the report in the news article the evidence you challenged me to provide, you then pretend again I’m a troll. Give over. You aren’t fooling anyone.

He did not ‘escalate’ it. He tried to remove him. Massive difference that only you are pretending not to understand.

Yes I thought it was strange you raised it…though I think I have seen slurs on MN about them being travellers …my understanding about KA is that the outrage relates to NOT being tried by a jury of his peers and that if a black boy was aggressive and put hands on a white boy and then he used a folding knife and stabbed him..and the black boy died ..the sentence, even IF going to trial (and self defence wasn’t accepted) would not be the same. The supporters state cases to support their view.
Notwithstanding all that; he has been sentenced to 35 years in prison. So the faux outrage here seems to have another agenda, as do so many other threads on MN

Yes he started it, but it was then escalated. I was more reacting to the OP claiming the words were more threatening and aggressive than the shoving as well as indicating more of a physical threat. How can words be more of a physical threat than when someone is actively assaulting you?

Why would that be next? You have obviously failed to understand the concept of escalation when it comes to situations that end in violence. Surprising really as I thought all women knew that physical assault is the more serious escalation of verbal threats and increases the likelihood of serious injury or death.

Ah, I thought something you said earlier suggested you were in the US.

Sensible.

Dont be so bloody ridiculous. Pushing into somebody else’s space and acting like a twat and refusing to leave means he very much started it and deserved to be removed.

Advising others to not download a random Google Drive file from in Internet troll on MM.

No, I’m English and in England. I have no idea how this has been viewed in Texas but this relentless downplaying of stabbed teen boys because the aggressor fits a narrative is tedious.

"you lot".

Says it all doesn't it.

Are you in America? Some of your responses sound as though you are. Is this being seen a a big deal outside of Texas? Or is it really only in that state (and online) that tensions are high?

Right, I am minimising when it’s you lot claiming words are more of the threat than physical assault. Love to see you argue that in any other context.

What next? Breaking into somebody’s house and if they push you to get you out, that’s threatening too is it? 😂

There’s a clear aggressor here and no amount of ‘hE pUsHeD hIM’ is going to make us believe he stabbed Austin in ‘self defence’.

No. There was no equating going on. Please don’t put words in my mouth. I was replying about perceived threat. Apparently being pushed and shoved is not at all threatening, whereas verbal challenges are very threatening.

We’re really not in agreement. No.

Your minimising is fooling absolutely nobody and just reveals you as somebody desperate to downplay something because of the races of those involved.

I don’t believe for a single moment he felt terrified by being pushed. This was a boy carrying a knife - he set out to do violence. Why else would you carry it?