AIBU to think USA has gone crazy - Karmelo Anthony is a murderer not a victim

Ok. I see you have immense faith in Texas courts.
I am sure you are applauding their 3rd degree murder convictions as we speak.

Many on here do not understand the concept.
It’s why they think shoving is a de-escalation to words.

( whereas shoving is an escalation and not a proportionate response to words)

And bear in mind he shouldn’t have even been at the event (KA). He was suspended from school for having a weapon and banned from athletic events but he turned up anyway.

To the poster who keeps implying KA was scared because of the shove. 12 witnesses all stated he was the aggressor, not Austin.

Murder, so do you think it was 1st, 2nd or 3rd degree murder? And if so why?
(hoping you will look up the difference and realise….hmmm this wasn’t 1st degree)

'don’t think he coldly planned to murder anyone when he went out that evening to the track meet.'

Maybe not but clearly with a weapon he was happy to do it anyway. Not like he pushed him and he fell and cracked his head and died. That would have obviously been tragic but not murder. This was murder.

Dont be so bloody ridiculous. Pushing into somebody else’s space and acting like a twat and refusing to leave means he very much started it and deserved to be removed.

The way to achieve that would be to have left. Drunk drivers don’t set out to kill anyone either but they still rightly go to prison.

I have to go now, but I am going to circle back to what I said at the start about UK law, as this case shows well the sense of that law ( maybe it applies in USA too), if you are able to leave, you leave. If you stay to attack, you are responsible for the harm you cause to others. Because if you had left, that harm would not have occurred.

The weather was stated as a reason he went into the tent. He sat down. The victim's twin brother started hassling Anthony. Austin Metcalf (the victim) wouldn't let it go and is on camera shoving Anthony. Both brothers and another boy was standing over him (on camera). Other students in the tent said it was a scuffle, instigated by the Metcalfs. Anthony stabbed him, he claims, in self defence. The coach said, in court that it wasn't unusual to share tents and they had no reason to bulky Anthony out of the tent. The knife he was carrying wasn't illegal. Three black women were cut from the jury. Anthony was 17, considering everything, he shouldn't lose his whole life to this.

The USA in general probably hasnt gone crazy about his sentence. A mad minority who will claim this is racist has gone crazy.

No need to take any notice of them

Just like the knee crap.

Oh please. Acting in self defence would've been shoving back not stabbing someone to death. Do you understand what proportionate response means?

Look back over my posts. I have REPEATEDLY referred to the pushing and shoving. As I’ve just repeated, I said in my OP it may have been a fuck move to tell KA to get out of the tent, but you don’t stab people for being dicks.

@Malinia he acted in self defence. He shouldn't have been threatened with assault. He reacted as a lot of 17 year olds would. The Police said he was in shock, remorseful and scared, when arrested. The Metcalfs were described by other students as bullies.

He turned himself in the next morning as well. He may have been spoiling for a fight, but I don’t think he coldly planned to murder anyone when he went out that evening to the track meet.

The weather was stated as a reason he went into the tent. He sat down. The victim's twin brother started hassling Anthony. Austin Metcalf (the victim) wouldn't let it go and is on camera shoving Anthony. Both brothers and another boy was standing over him (on camera). Other students in the tent said it was a scuffle, instigated by the Metcalfs. Anthony stabbed him, he claims, in self defence. The coach said, in court that it wasn't unusual to share tents and they had no reason to bulky Anthony out of the tent. The knife he was carrying wasn't illegal. Three black women were cut from the jury. Anthony was 17, considering everything, he shouldn't lose his whole life to this.

@Malinia he acted in self defence. He shouldn't have been threatened with assault. He reacted as a lot of 17 year olds would. The Police said he was in shock, remorseful and scared, when arrested. The Metcalfs were described by other students as bullies.

The fact is it was a knife capable of killing a man, did kill a man and was carried by a man who felt confident enough to provoke a fight with someone bigger than him.

The difference here is that KA was carrying a knife, repeatedly provoking a fight with someone who was bigger than him ‘touch me and see what happens’ , refusing all de-escalation ‘Leave’ ‘I won’t fight you’ and then took out and used the knife to stab through the chest with great force.

That sounds very much like someone who from the start of the confrontation felt emboldened by the knowledge he had a knife to use on the bigger guy.

Ah Okay, so chased by an unarmed
person = shoot them at close range, pushed by an unarmed person = just walk off.

Oh, and Rittenhouse had an all white jury bar one (which caused a huge controversy) and he has gone on to say some awful stuff.

Honestly, quit pretending.