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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

OP posts:
ThatLemonBee · 13/06/2026 05:23

Lived 19 years in England and would never support them !

keffie12 · 12/06/2026 23:14

I'm a massive football supporter! Bought up on it and spoon-fed the beautiful game. I'm club before country. I'm British born, in England. I don't support England. They aren't my first team. My international team has not qualified. I'll watch in general though I'm not rooting for one particular team

Grghf · 12/06/2026 22:48

I lived in an EU country and always supported it. Youre kind of missing out on a vibe of togetherness and the opportunity to feel part of something

Gcol · 12/06/2026 22:42

People are not bothered about this World Cup. Factors include
. Trump and his visas. Plus controlling Infantino such as the crass FIFA peace trophy
. Matches being played as late as 3am BST
. More teams, more matches, more fatigue

Normally I see many homes with at least one flag on it. I have seen just one. May get more as England’s first match is Wednesday

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 22:25

BMW58 · 12/06/2026 22:06

What a sad little life this person must have to make endless threads denigrating the English.

We seem to be living rent-free in her head.

You’re mixing me up with someone else. I don’t usually start threads at all! Though I’m unsurprised there’s a load of football threads popping up, it is the World Cup.

OP posts:
Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 22:24

MoreEspressoLessDepresso · 12/06/2026 22:00

I'm not a football fan but most of my colleagues are. And by and large, they're all supporting whoever it is they picked in the work sweepstake Grin

That’s the correct attitude!

OP posts:
Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:09

BMW58 · 12/06/2026 22:06

What a sad little life this person must have to make endless threads denigrating the English.

We seem to be living rent-free in her head.

Ok. See if you think that, and you maybe right, I don’t know. Why pander to it? Just scroll by.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:08

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 22:04

Huh? Maybe I misunderstood and you were joking about me being there. Tone isn't always easy to interpret. Certainly not playing the victim.

Read your own posts!

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:06

MrBernardCheeseman · 12/06/2026 21:35

You sound like you are deliberately trying to wind people up. Behave. Nobody cares.

You do 🤣

BMW58 · 12/06/2026 22:06

What a sad little life this person must have to make endless threads denigrating the English.

We seem to be living rent-free in her head.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 22:04

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 21:59

Can I ask why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder? Even when we have lighthearted moments in this thread, in you come playing the victim. It’s tedious tbh.

Huh? Maybe I misunderstood and you were joking about me being there. Tone isn't always easy to interpret. Certainly not playing the victim.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:03

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 21:31

Yes, but if you announce to your colleagues that you support any team but England, while continuing to live here, you are making a statement about how you feel about the country. That's why it went down badly with the OP's colleagues.

It’s grown men kicking a ball about a park. If a joke about it went down badly then that says more about the immaturity of the colleagues than the OP.

MoreEspressoLessDepresso · 12/06/2026 22:00

I'm not a football fan but most of my colleagues are. And by and large, they're all supporting whoever it is they picked in the work sweepstake Grin

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 21:59

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 21:26

I think historians probably know what they are talking about. I read the dark hair is more a throwback to the people who lived in Ireland before the Celts.

Can I ask why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder? Even when we have lighthearted moments in this thread, in you come playing the victim. It’s tedious tbh.

pizzaHeart · 12/06/2026 21:54

of course you support whoever you want but the way you said it sounded a bit confrontational. And depending on your tone / facial expression it could have come across as very confrontational.
“I always support (insert where you are from) team” sounds a bit differently.
By the way I’m in your situation and I support England but I do it absolutely voluntarily 😆

MsAmerica · 12/06/2026 21:38

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

How disappointing.
I thought this was an interesting question about supporting one's country when it has bad governmental policies. Imagine my disappointment to find it's only about sports.
I think the world would be better off if people supported a team on the basis of the team itself - or maybe better if there were no sports. To support one's home team mindlessly is just as silly as refusing to eat French food, or read Russian novels, or listen to American music.

MrBernardCheeseman · 12/06/2026 21:35

You sound like you are deliberately trying to wind people up. Behave. Nobody cares.

borage13 · 12/06/2026 21:34

Yanbu. Support who you like, and enjoy the tournament. It’s only sport.

StormGazing · 12/06/2026 21:33

🙄 …. Biscuit

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 21:31

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 21:14

A country, believe it or not, is defined by many things. I would say, could be wrong, that not one of them is their football team.

Yes, but if you announce to your colleagues that you support any team but England, while continuing to live here, you are making a statement about how you feel about the country. That's why it went down badly with the OP's colleagues.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 21:29

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 21:09

But why live in a country you feel such disdain for? It makes no sense.

She then seems to be very puzzled about why she has no friends here.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 21:26

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 20:56

Oh were you there?

I think historians probably know what they are talking about. I read the dark hair is more a throwback to the people who lived in Ireland before the Celts.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 21:25

MirrorMirror1247 · 12/06/2026 21:06

I'm Scottish and had a summer job in Lincolnshire during the 2006 World Cup, so I was living down there too. I proudly wore a Scotland Tshirt in amongst all the English flags. It didn't matter that Scotland hadn't qualified, hell would have frozen over before I supported England!

If that was the other way round I bet you would have felt more under threat. Certainly more dangerous.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 21:14

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 21:09

But why live in a country you feel such disdain for? It makes no sense.

A country, believe it or not, is defined by many things. I would say, could be wrong, that not one of them is their football team.

Jamesblonde2 · 12/06/2026 21:12

Why are you choosing to support a team you KNOW are not going to win? (Sorry to any Scots on here - not the OP).

You’re odd. But then again you sound as if you like to be controversial. For some reason.

No-one likes a spoilsport.

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