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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

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Harhar · 25/06/2026 23:03

Ecuador. Who’d have thought it?

Grghf · 25/06/2026 10:43

@Feetballislife bit quiet this morning aren't you 🤭

x2boys · 24/06/2026 21:56

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 21:14

Exactly. I wouldn’t expect England fans to switch allegiance.
England are never going to win any
major trophy with Harry Kane in charge. They need a winner in charge to really believe they can succeed.

Probably not but they have done a lot better in recent years.
Than when it was Beckham et al Era ehen there were a lot of big Egos.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 24/06/2026 21:33

PomplaMouse · 24/06/2026 21:32

Pedantry time: it was the Euros, not the World Cup.

Oh right. Still in the home of football. 👍

PomplaMouse · 24/06/2026 21:32

DontBuyAnotherBook · 24/06/2026 21:06

That song was to celebrate the world cup coming to the home of football in 1996. The meaning often seems to be forgotten

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Pedantry time: it was the Euros, not the World Cup.

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 21:14

PomplaMouse · 24/06/2026 20:41

That isn't in line with my personal experience...when England got knocked out of the Euros and Wales made it to the semis, the prevailing attitude I encountered from England fans was wanting Wales to lose (because imagine if we won it before England and how insufferable we'd be).

Which is fine and normal, and you won't see many Welsh fans complaining about it.

Exactly. I wouldn’t expect England fans to switch allegiance.
England are never going to win any
major trophy with Harry Kane in charge. They need a winner in charge to really believe they can succeed.

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DontBuyAnotherBook · 24/06/2026 21:06

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 24/06/2026 20:11

I don't think England really want to win. I put this down to one sole reason - the theme song. The "it's coming home" song has got good traction and the inbuilt counter has already doubled in my lifetime from "30" to "60 years of hurt". If they were to win they would need to rewrite the whole thing, and to be honest - who could really be bothered with that.

That song was to celebrate the world cup coming to the home of football in 1996. The meaning often seems to be forgotten

PomplaMouse · 24/06/2026 20:41

x2boys · 24/06/2026 20:19

I thinnk its the other way round if England got knocked out of the world cup but another of the home nations were still i it i think a lot of English fans would temporarily switch their allleigence
But if England was still in the world cup anf all the others werent you gurantee the other home nations would be like the Op anyone but England.

That isn't in line with my personal experience...when England got knocked out of the Euros and Wales made it to the semis, the prevailing attitude I encountered from England fans was wanting Wales to lose (because imagine if we won it before England and how insufferable we'd be).

Which is fine and normal, and you won't see many Welsh fans complaining about it.

x2boys · 24/06/2026 20:19

PomplaMouse · 24/06/2026 19:46

I disagree.

I'm not an ABE - in fact, I'm currently a lukewarm well-wisher, but I hate that attitude of some England fans that other British nations should support them, or that immigrants living in England should adopt them. It's arrogant, entitled and sometimes crosses into xenophobic.

It's also counter-productive in that its going to drive more people away from wanting England to do well.

And even from an English perspective - would any true sports fan really want rival fans to be happy for their successes? Part of the fun is (good natured) rubbing your bragging rights in rivals' faces! You want to be met with seething envy, not "yeah I'm so happy for you!!!"

And is the OP trolling at the moment? Absolutely! It's part of the fun.

If England triumph, then I'm sure everyone will enjoy shitposting in return.

A load of you need to ditch the entitlement, pull the sticks out of yourselves, and embrace the fun of it a bit more.

I thinnk its the other way round if England got knocked out of the world cup but another of the home nations were still i it i think a lot of English fans would temporarily switch their allleigence
But if England was still in the world cup anf all the others werent you gurantee the other home nations would be like the Op anyone but England.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 24/06/2026 20:13

Who give’s a fuck?

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 24/06/2026 20:11

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 10:22

England World Ranking #4
Ghana World ranking #64
Ghana played their hearts out, unlike England.IMHO of course. There may be England fans out there who thought England were good and still have a shot at winning the World Cup.
I can’t see England getting past USA, Norway, Spain, France, Germany, even Belgium playing like that.

I don't think England really want to win. I put this down to one sole reason - the theme song. The "it's coming home" song has got good traction and the inbuilt counter has already doubled in my lifetime from "30" to "60 years of hurt". If they were to win they would need to rewrite the whole thing, and to be honest - who could really be bothered with that.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 24/06/2026 20:05

Bugger. Your colleagues are right if you not supporting England how can they possibly win? It's probably your lack of support that caused them not to bother scoring any goals.

It would be better if who supported who mattered, maybe the players could get sponsored water or mid game refreshments a bit like in the hunger games.

I've lived and worked in England all my life and I couldn't give a shit who wins the football.

PomplaMouse · 24/06/2026 19:46

Dideon · 24/06/2026 07:34

You seem to be missing the essence of the thread.

I disagree.

I'm not an ABE - in fact, I'm currently a lukewarm well-wisher, but I hate that attitude of some England fans that other British nations should support them, or that immigrants living in England should adopt them. It's arrogant, entitled and sometimes crosses into xenophobic.

It's also counter-productive in that its going to drive more people away from wanting England to do well.

And even from an English perspective - would any true sports fan really want rival fans to be happy for their successes? Part of the fun is (good natured) rubbing your bragging rights in rivals' faces! You want to be met with seething envy, not "yeah I'm so happy for you!!!"

And is the OP trolling at the moment? Absolutely! It's part of the fun.

If England triumph, then I'm sure everyone will enjoy shitposting in return.

A load of you need to ditch the entitlement, pull the sticks out of yourselves, and embrace the fun of it a bit more.

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 16:01

Allegedly they just needed a day off, back open for the Scotland game tonight. Mmm, suspicious!

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Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 14:19

The Irish Bar in Boston that’s been the hub for all the Scottish fans decided to close for the day of the England v Ghana game. Now THAT’s some epic ABE energy right there 😳😀

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Grghf · 24/06/2026 13:59

Feetballislife · 23/06/2026 09:02

So if you moved to Spain or France ( and lived and worked there and paid tax there etc) you’d support their teams over England, or whatever your team is?
That’s nonsense. It’s like saying you’re from Newcastle and support them but you’ve moved to Liverpool so now should switch teams to L’Pool or Everton.

This thread is a masterclass in "tell me youre Irish without telling me youre Irish".

I guess when youre from somewhere that consistently provides zero cultural or sporting output, you kind of have to switch to hate-watching to get the old pulse moving, it makes sense

5MinuteArgument · 24/06/2026 12:39

I don't really understand the OP. I wouldn't choose to live in a country that I felt such contempt for.

Harhar · 24/06/2026 11:53

Dideon · 24/06/2026 11:47

Imagine living in a country for 30 odd years that you hate.

Surrounded by people you hate plus the odd Welsh GEEZER.

Dideon · 24/06/2026 11:47

Harhar · 24/06/2026 11:26

It’s as plain as day op wishes they were English. Just unable to manage their feelings.

Imagine living in a country for 30 odd years that you hate.

Harhar · 24/06/2026 11:26

It’s as plain as day op wishes they were English. Just unable to manage their feelings.

x2boys · 24/06/2026 11:18

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 10:22

England World Ranking #4
Ghana World ranking #64
Ghana played their hearts out, unlike England.IMHO of course. There may be England fans out there who thought England were good and still have a shot at winning the World Cup.
I can’t see England getting past USA, Norway, Spain, France, Germany, even Belgium playing like that.

For someone who hates the English team so very much you seem very informed🤔

Dideon · 24/06/2026 11:17

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 10:22

England World Ranking #4
Ghana World ranking #64
Ghana played their hearts out, unlike England.IMHO of course. There may be England fans out there who thought England were good and still have a shot at winning the World Cup.
I can’t see England getting past USA, Norway, Spain, France, Germany, even Belgium playing like that.

I imagine you slept well last night . We really do live rent free in your head . It must be miserable.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 24/06/2026 10:46

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 10:22

England World Ranking #4
Ghana World ranking #64
Ghana played their hearts out, unlike England.IMHO of course. There may be England fans out there who thought England were good and still have a shot at winning the World Cup.
I can’t see England getting past USA, Norway, Spain, France, Germany, even Belgium playing like that.

Luckily none of the big teams are actually that not that brilliant this year either. It is pretty open.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 24/06/2026 10:41

You seemed very quiet when England played well. Very predictable. Please also don't act like you know football. I for one knew that game was going to be hard. The manager used to be at Manchester Utd.

Feetballislife · 24/06/2026 10:22

England World Ranking #4
Ghana World ranking #64
Ghana played their hearts out, unlike England.IMHO of course. There may be England fans out there who thought England were good and still have a shot at winning the World Cup.
I can’t see England getting past USA, Norway, Spain, France, Germany, even Belgium playing like that.

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