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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

OP posts:
Walkyrie · 11/06/2026 10:34

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:34

As if the culture of other European countries football fan bases are any different/better? 😂

Yeah I think it's very strange to not have any affection whatsoever for a country you choose to live in.

Paris this last couple of weeks is a great example… 😬

NimbleHiker · 11/06/2026 10:34

I am not supporting anyone in the world cup because i don't like football.

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:34

Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:32

Why assume that though? Why assume someone has to hold some affection for where they live too? For many people where they live is determined by their job, family or partner and may not be where they'd actively choose to be otherwise.

I actively dislike the whole England football fan culture and I'm English. Perhaps OP feels similarly.

As if the culture of other European countries football fan bases are any different/better? 😂

Yeah I think it's very strange to not have any affection whatsoever for a country you choose to live in.

Tryagain26 · 11/06/2026 10:34

My husband is English and doesn't support England he supports a different country
Support whoever you want or be like me and don't support any team.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 11/06/2026 10:32

I’ve no interest in football and don’t really care if England win (in the same way I wouldn’t care if they won the world bowling championships or whatever. No malice, just no interest).
But I do find people’s “anyone but england” “I never ever support England in anything ever!!!!” mildly tedious.

Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:32

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:29

No but I'd assume that the Brits living in Spain would have a bit of affection for the country they made their home and if England hadn't qualified I'd assume they'd be supporting Spain

Why assume that though? Why assume someone has to hold some affection for where they live too? For many people where they live is determined by their job, family or partner and may not be where they'd actively choose to be otherwise.

I actively dislike the whole England football fan culture and I'm English. Perhaps OP feels similarly.

Skybluepinky · 11/06/2026 10:32

Why make the comment, do you just like drama!

Jc2001 · 11/06/2026 10:32

OneEagerLeader · 11/06/2026 10:31

It's weird that you're making such a point of not supporting England.

That's the weird, performative part of what the op is saying.

x2boys · 11/06/2026 10:32

Ok
The anyone but England threads do get a bit tiresome everytime theres a internstional tournament

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/06/2026 10:31

I’m English and couldn’t give a shit whether we win or lose.

I won’t be watching any of it. Some colleagues of mine can’t understand it and think I should be hoping they win. As I said to them, that’s a you problem, not my problem.

OneEagerLeader · 11/06/2026 10:31

It's weird that you're making such a point of not supporting England.

2chocolateoranges · 11/06/2026 10:31

Support who you like.

Us Scottish fans know how to party (well according to Susanna Reid and her pals, We will be recovering from hangovers since we are all drunkards here in Scotland)

more like we will be partying for every game, no alcohol required.

No Scotland No Party!

Walkyrie · 11/06/2026 10:30

It’s boring now, OP.

NooNakedJacuzziness · 11/06/2026 10:30

LadyLooo · 11/06/2026 10:25

Every. Single. Time 🙄

And yet they think the 'whip up a Scotland/England bun fight' thread is so original 🥱

Yep, every 4 years like clockwork 🥱

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:29

Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:22

Why? I love football. I've been a fan of my domestic team since I was a nipper. I don't live in my home city and haven't done for a long time. Should I have just started supporting the local team here where I live now instead?

This woman is still whatever nationality she is, despite living in England. Are all the expats in Spain waving Spanish flags for the world cup? Ditto those in Saudi. Its a bizarre notion.

No but I'd assume that the Brits living in Spain would have a bit of affection for the country they made their home and if England hadn't qualified I'd assume they'd be supporting Spain

SJM1988 · 11/06/2026 10:28

It doesn't matter if you were born in England or elsewhere or even how long you have been in England for, who you support in the world cup as no baring on how integrated you are.
Support whoever you like

My DH is from South Africa (he is now British though). He will always support SA over England. My kids chose who to support - in the women's England vs Wales rugby match they chose Wales. I'm sure with the football, it will be whichever team looks better stats wise for my DS and whichever team has the better coloured kit for my DD. It really doesn't matter.

Jc2001 · 11/06/2026 10:28

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

I don't suppose anyone really cares but you sound like you enjoy being a bit different and make a big deal about it. Probably just cheer for whatever team is playing England to try and get a response.

I've seen it a few times. If I lived in another country I'd probably root for that team if my own country wasn't playing.

Squirrelsnut · 11/06/2026 10:26

I'm so glad I don't have to worry about such nonsense.
Support whichever group of millionaires running around a field you like.

OttersOnAPlane · 11/06/2026 10:25

Last time I supported England Michael Owen played for them, and we supported him as a local kid.

The England team have plenty of support, I don't think they'll miss the OP cheering for Scotland.

LadyLooo · 11/06/2026 10:25

Every. Single. Time 🙄

And yet they think the 'whip up a Scotland/England bun fight' thread is so original 🥱

Weeellokthen · 11/06/2026 10:24

Thank you for your support, op. We need all the help we can get 😂
From Scotland 🙏

Harhar · 11/06/2026 10:24

Not sure I’d set up home somewhere then tell people I supported anyone but them in sporting events. There lots of Anyone but England’s about though. One more won’t hurt.

VickyEadie · 11/06/2026 10:24

Support who you like. Nobody else cares.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 11/06/2026 10:23

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:21

Oh and the way you've worded it "I'd NEVER support English sport teams EVER" it does come across as a bit, I don't know, pointed?

i think it’s the commentators and pundits that really put people off, from what I’ve gathered.

They’re just so OTT! Not saying other countries don’t have this too but it’s excruciating.

Except for Ian Wright who is lovely of course

Ablondiebutagoody · 11/06/2026 10:23

Bit weird to live in a place you dislike but that's your problem. I wouldn't care who you support.

When I have lived abroad, I have found myself supporting the local team out of affinity with my friends/colleagues, enjoying them being happy and liking the general buzz on the streets.

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