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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

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battairzeedurgzome · 11/06/2026 10:57

I have never given a hoot about the outcome of any sporting event, anywhere, ever, and I'm not going to start now.

Oooohthatsfancy · 11/06/2026 10:53

I’m English and will be supporting England but I hope Scotland do well too.

LadyLooo · 11/06/2026 10:51

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 10:49

Then true football fans won't care that you aren't supporting England.

Literally no-one, man, woman or dog will give a gnat's fart anyway 🤷‍♂️

How many of us walk around with a furrowed brow during the world cup, worrying about which stranger supports which team?

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 11/06/2026 10:51

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:42

‘Obviously if you are watching an England match in a public place you shouldn't be booing them or anything because that's rude.’

stupid and dangerous is what it would be. Also, no way am I going to watch anywhere with England fans.

This attitude here probably explains why your workmates have an issue with you.

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 10:49

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:46

Of course! Always. Shame they’re a bit shite!

Then true football fans won't care that you aren't supporting England.

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 10:47

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:42

‘Obviously if you are watching an England match in a public place you shouldn't be booing them or anything because that's rude.’

stupid and dangerous is what it would be. Also, no way am I going to watch anywhere with England fans.

Oh don't be daft.
All the pubs round my South London area show football and people behave themselves.
The singing however can sometimes be annoying.....
🎵🎶 Sweet Caroline 🎵🎶
🎶🎵BUH BUH BUH 🎶🎵

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:46

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 10:41

@Feetballislife do you actively follow your home country team?
If you are clearly an active supporter then most football fans will respect that.
If it's just because that's where you are from but you can't actually name any of the players then it will seem a bit fake.

Of course! Always. Shame they’re a bit shite!

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Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:46

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:41

I don't think anyone is offended, as I've said I just find it a bit odd and the "anyone but England" people who choose to live in England are usually just being purposely antagonistic.

Probably in response to the weird over-zealousness so many england fans adopt. Or actually, more likely those who are only fans every couple of years for the major tournaments but could tell you little to nothing about most of the players in the squad.

ConcernedForWales · 11/06/2026 10:45

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 10:42

Chippy chippy celts, so easy to wind up.

Edited

Oh, don't be twp now, cariad.

Why did you edit?

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 10:42

ConcernedForWales · 11/06/2026 10:41

Scotch is a drink. But you know that, I reckon. Unless you are from the US?

Chippy chippy celts, so easy to wind up.

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:42

‘Obviously if you are watching an England match in a public place you shouldn't be booing them or anything because that's rude.’

stupid and dangerous is what it would be. Also, no way am I going to watch anywhere with England fans.

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LadyLooo · 11/06/2026 10:41

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:38

30! But I’m not English so…

Is there any reason why you deliberately name changed to post your gripping revelation though?

Did you think football fans were going to type you to death or something? 🙄

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:41

Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:39

I'm fairly well travelled and have been to football matches in most European countries. The football culture is not the same in the majority of those countries.

One of the places I work frequently is in a country whose team are not in the world cup. Most of the people there seem to be supporting whoever they've drawn in the office sweep.

It's really fucking odd to think anyone has any right to dictate who other people should support in a football tournament. It's even odder to be offended by someone not supporting the same team as you. Actually it's pathetic.

I don't think anyone is offended, as I've said I just find it a bit odd and the "anyone but England" people who choose to live in England are usually just being purposely antagonistic.

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 10:41

@Feetballislife do you actively follow your home country team?
If you are clearly an active supporter then most football fans will respect that.
If it's just because that's where you are from but you can't actually name any of the players then it will seem a bit fake.

ConcernedForWales · 11/06/2026 10:41

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 10:38

Aye, it’s funny how the most passionate scotch so often choose not to live there.

Sean Connery, Alan Cummings, Nicola Sturgeon…

Scotch is a drink. But you know that, I reckon. Unless you are from the US?

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 11/06/2026 10:41

support who you want or don’t want. It doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things.

but there’s always the ‘urgh, I’d never support England/watch the number 1 series on the streaming apps/listen to a really popular, world record selling band’ who can’t simply not enjoy those things and carry on with their lives, but have to make it known how different they are whilst sneering down amongst the people that do.

It’s all a bit strange, isn’t it?
the performance some people go to in an attempt
to stand out from the crowd.

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:41

I’ll also be supporting the European country I got in the sweepstakes! There’s prizes… plus they have an actual shot at winning.

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AnonymityAnonymity · 11/06/2026 10:40

I'm English born and bred but I'm a very long time resident of Scotland

I support Scotland in all sports. Not because I feel a duty to because I live here but because I identify as Scottish.
If i'm watching a sporting competition Scotlandarent't taking part in i generally support the under dog . I don't support England in anything really.

I totally agree OP you should support whoever you want at the World Cup.

ConcernedForWales · 11/06/2026 10:39

I will be rooting for Scotland. Also supporting Brazil. And Japan. But I will give England a cheer if they do well.

Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:39

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:34

As if the culture of other European countries football fan bases are any different/better? 😂

Yeah I think it's very strange to not have any affection whatsoever for a country you choose to live in.

I'm fairly well travelled and have been to football matches in most European countries. The football culture is not the same in the majority of those countries.

One of the places I work frequently is in a country whose team are not in the world cup. Most of the people there seem to be supporting whoever they've drawn in the office sweep.

It's really fucking odd to think anyone has any right to dictate who other people should support in a football tournament. It's even odder to be offended by someone not supporting the same team as you. Actually it's pathetic.

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 10:38

I live in London and my daughter's primary school was full of kids whose parents were from other countries. Sometimes one parent from one country and the other from a completely different one.
Asking the children "who's your team" was always a fascinating conversation.
Sometimes it wasn't England or their parent/s country but another one (often Brazil 😂).
One year their classroom was set up with flags of all the nations and photos of some of the children with "I'm supporting....." stuck to them.
To me.... that's what it's all about.
Having fun and celebration.
Obviously if you are watching an England match in a public place you shouldn't be booing them or anything because that's rude.

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:38

Strangerthanfictions · 11/06/2026 10:36

The main aspect of the Scottish team is supporting them 😂😂 so I get why people like to join in supporting us, no Scotland no party 🎉 🎉 I have found English colleagues and friends very rattled about Scottish people not supporting England, it would be nice if we all lived together in harmony and politics wasn't a factor, but for most Scots we have grown up being dwarfed and marginalised on a national level by England and made to feel like the much inferior little brother, so it's like siblings, could be the closest thing to you but you'd still grudge them winning. Also we keep getting the fallout of their shitty prime Ministers.

Why would English people want Scots to support England? Of course they're not going to. But the op isn't Scottish.

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 10:38

Gladystheimpaler · 11/06/2026 10:18

I was born in England but to Scottish parents, you know who I'm supporting 🤣 As my Uncle always said (Scottish but living in London) "There's no Scot as Scottish as one who left"

Aye, it’s funny how the most passionate scotch so often choose not to live there.

Sean Connery, Alan Cummings, Nicola Sturgeon…

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:38

LizardyGuts · 11/06/2026 10:16

Depends how long you've lived in England I suppose. Two years - it's normal that your outlook is still international. Twenty years - a bit unusual that you don't want to support the national team of the country you have made home (as well as your country of origin if applicable).

But 'unusual' is your choice, and shouldn't be viewed as some kind of personal or national insult by others.

30! But I’m not English so…

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Strangerthanfictions · 11/06/2026 10:36

The main aspect of the Scottish team is supporting them 😂😂 so I get why people like to join in supporting us, no Scotland no party 🎉 🎉 I have found English colleagues and friends very rattled about Scottish people not supporting England, it would be nice if we all lived together in harmony and politics wasn't a factor, but for most Scots we have grown up being dwarfed and marginalised on a national level by England and made to feel like the much inferior little brother, so it's like siblings, could be the closest thing to you but you'd still grudge them winning. Also we keep getting the fallout of their shitty prime Ministers.

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