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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

OP posts:
Dideon · 11/06/2026 17:10

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 17:07

I can root for them from here, the matches are in the US … also, the weather…

Or you could return to Ireland and root for Scotland from their .. oh but , the weather..

ToffeeCrabApple · 11/06/2026 17:07

Any home nation counts!!

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 17:07

Dideon · 11/06/2026 17:05

You could move to Scotland?

I can root for them from here, the matches are in the US … also, the weather…

OP posts:
anotherdaytosmile · 11/06/2026 17:07

To say you never support England when you live there is unnecessarily rude.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 11/06/2026 17:05

Goditsmemargaret · 11/06/2026 16:59

Whaaaat? There's no justification whatsoever needed for supporting England's opponents. They're playing England, we will cheer for them. That's the basis of the anyone but England ethos.

Posters need to calm down, imagine being so ridiculously sensitive. It's nonsense and means nothing. It's most common in a house (like mine) or a group of friends containing an English person. Obviously we like the people!

This is weird because I feel like I have more in common with the Irish than I do the French. We are so similar. We get the sense of humour etc.

Dideon · 11/06/2026 17:05

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 16:51

Also, the Scotland kit is great this tournament. Can’t beat a cool away shirt.

You could move to Scotland?

IcedPurple · 11/06/2026 17:03

Goditsmemargaret · 11/06/2026 17:01

I assume they hear the "we won't support England in the football (any sport)" as "we don't support England" which is bollocks.

How?

If your default position is 'anyone but England' - not just in football but in all sports - how is this not indicative of a dislike of England? If someone had a policy of cheering for any team playing Ireland, simply because they were playing Ireland, would you consider that person to be neutral towards Ireland as a country?

DontBuyAnotherBook · 11/06/2026 17:03

Goditsmemargaret · 11/06/2026 16:54

Are you really and truly telling me you can't tell where she is from?

It is obvious.

Goditsmemargaret · 11/06/2026 17:01

Inthebitterend · 11/06/2026 16:57

I cannot fathom who would care enough about this to turn "hostile" on you. I'm as British as they come and I don't give a shit if you support England or not, it's just a game. I don't even watch it. I cannot imagine one scenario, other than in a stadium watching them play, where anyone would care if I said out loud, "I don't support England in the football". Just childish to react badly to that. In the grand scheme of things, does it even matter? the world is on fire and people are tearing chunks out of each other over fucking football.

I assume they hear the "we won't support England in the football (any sport)" as "we don't support England" which is bollocks.

Goditsmemargaret · 11/06/2026 16:59

FlatCatYellowMat · 11/06/2026 16:55

Support who you like, but I roll my eyes at people who suddenly decide their Welsh great grandad is all important when it comes to 'anyone but England'. It's just obnoxious.

Whaaaat? There's no justification whatsoever needed for supporting England's opponents. They're playing England, we will cheer for them. That's the basis of the anyone but England ethos.

Posters need to calm down, imagine being so ridiculously sensitive. It's nonsense and means nothing. It's most common in a house (like mine) or a group of friends containing an English person. Obviously we like the people!

Inthebitterend · 11/06/2026 16:57

I cannot fathom who would care enough about this to turn "hostile" on you. I'm as British as they come and I don't give a shit if you support England or not, it's just a game. I don't even watch it. I cannot imagine one scenario, other than in a stadium watching them play, where anyone would care if I said out loud, "I don't support England in the football". Just childish to react badly to that. In the grand scheme of things, does it even matter? the world is on fire and people are tearing chunks out of each other over fucking football.

FlatCatYellowMat · 11/06/2026 16:55

Support who you like, but I roll my eyes at people who suddenly decide their Welsh great grandad is all important when it comes to 'anyone but England'. It's just obnoxious.

Goditsmemargaret · 11/06/2026 16:54

Abitofalark · 11/06/2026 16:47

Yes, it's worse than tedious. The low trick of attacking England but not saying where they are from is coming to the table with loaded dice.

Are you really and truly telling me you can't tell where she is from?

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 16:51

Also, the Scotland kit is great this tournament. Can’t beat a cool away shirt.

OP posts:
Abitofalark · 11/06/2026 16:47

IcedPurple · 11/06/2026 11:52

Who knows? We know nothing about the OP's country other than that they're shit at football.

A common tactic on these boards is for an OP to be coy about their country of origin while slagging off Britain/England. It's quite tedious.

Yes, it's worse than tedious. The low trick of attacking England but not saying where they are from is coming to the table with loaded dice.

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 16:42

Wow, this thread to an unexpected turn or two …

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Fifthtimelucky · 11/06/2026 16:30

I think it’s perfectly reasonable not to support England if you are supporting your country of origin instead.

However, given that they are not playing, it does seem odd to me that you wouldn’t support England instead, given that you have chosen to live here.

I’m not particularly a fan of cricket, but if it comes up I support Somerset, which is where I was born and brought up, rather than Surrey, which is where I have lived for over 25 years. In a match between Surrey and any county other than Somerset, I would support Surrey!

Boomer55 · 11/06/2026 16:26

Do as you like. Support a team or don’t. 🤷‍♀️

Abitofalark · 11/06/2026 16:25

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 11:47

Sensitive bunch the English. I work in a job where I get paid a shed load of money so there’s that. Also - not anywhere have a said anything about the country of England other than I don’t support your sports teams.

On the contrary, you have posted a goading thread in which you boast about scorning England, on an English based forum, to which the predominantly English forum members respond by mostly either agreeing you are free or commenting in mild terms such as it's a bit 'a bit odd' or 'weird' or civilly questioning why.

Differentforgirls · 11/06/2026 16:18

43andnotgettinganyyounger · 11/06/2026 16:10

@DifferentforgirlsGoing Underground is an absolute tune, you are most welcome 🫶🏻

It really is!

Differentforgirls · 11/06/2026 16:11

Needmorelego · 11/06/2026 15:49

This thread made me think about that book earlier (first time in years).
I think the line when (spolier) Ireland get knocked out was something like -
"And that was the end of that"

There's a brilliant Irish comedy trio (Foil, Hog and something??) that did a sketch about who to support in the football if you're Irish but Ireland aren't playing. So funny.
Worth finding it online.
Edit: While googling for the sketch I see they've made a new one for this year. I will watch later.

Edited

I'll find it!

43andnotgettinganyyounger · 11/06/2026 16:10

Differentforgirls · 11/06/2026 15:47

"Made your bed now lie in it."

That has so reminded me of " Going Underground" by the Jam.

Which, in turn has reminded of "Billy Elliot".

Thank you!

@DifferentforgirlsGoing Underground is an absolute tune, you are most welcome 🫶🏻

118bd · 11/06/2026 16:04

Brefugee · 11/06/2026 15:32

You can't lay aside your hate (your word) for players on another team.

And don't recognise that as a problem?

You do you.

Edited

How on earth is it problem? It’s my own personal mindset, and yes I’ve admitted it’s petty but it is what it is, I don’t lose any sleep over it and I’m sure Tuchel etc aren’t either😂 I can’t wait for the WC to start tonight and will enjoy every minute I get to watch.

You seem to be obsessive over the word hate. I don’t mean as a “real world” hatred of course it’s just a turn of phrase, I support Man Utd and over the course of the season I’ll throw out that I hate City, especially when they are doing well but I’ve loads of friends and family members who support City & we all love each other (and they will say they hate United too) we will banter and wind each other up all part of enjoying rivalry. it’s honestly just not that deep like I’ve already tried to say.

Still trying to work out what the problem is 🤷🏼‍♀️

Tryingtobenormal124 · 11/06/2026 16:02

Bit of banter hopefully but Scotland all the way 😁

FFSItsTooHot · 11/06/2026 16:00

I think some people take a perverse pride in announcing that they don't support England.