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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

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SaySomethingMan · 12/06/2026 12:30

Tbh if I had to pick between supporting Scotland and England, I’d pick Scotland although i don’t live there and I don’t have to. I doubt the Scots are going very far though, sadly.

I don’t have much faith that England will be reliving their 1966 victory either.

Im just hoping the games done bring the same good dose of racist fans’ comments to light when Black players fail to meet expectations. It’s boring.

Rachie1973 · 12/06/2026 12:26

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:21

Oh and the way you've worded it "I'd NEVER support English sport teams EVER" it does come across as a bit, I don't know, pointed?

Look at me look at me?

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 12:25

SaySomethingMan · 12/06/2026 12:24

Exactly this

How do you know they were all England fans?

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 12:24

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 12:21

The tartan army are getting a lot of coverage in US press and all of it positive…

Good!

SaySomethingMan · 12/06/2026 12:24

Imanautumn · 11/06/2026 10:16

Support who you want but seems deliberately inflammatory to announce you never support England to a group of England fans.

Exactly this

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 12:21

The tartan army are getting a lot of coverage in US press and all of it positive…

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Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 11:07

Strangerthanfictions · 12/06/2026 10:46

My children are season ticket holder to be fair but no Irish connection whatsoever, but I grew up in a very orange family so seen all sides, but I'm wondering if likes of the more extreme from the green brigade and whatever ranger equivalent don't have much interest in the Scotland team and that's what keeps the tartan army extremely sociable and friendly and fairly trouble free, we were so complimented and admired in Germany two years ago honestly but I'll find out soon if Boston and Miami is the same. Maybe it's because we're mostly there for the party and can't really be too ambitious haha

You could be right. I have both sides in my family too. Makes it interesting! But our best friends are RFC season ticket holders and they also support Scotland.

Strangerthanfictions · 12/06/2026 10:46

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:26

We’re season ticket holders. CFC. Support Scotland AND Ireland 🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

My children are season ticket holder to be fair but no Irish connection whatsoever, but I grew up in a very orange family so seen all sides, but I'm wondering if likes of the more extreme from the green brigade and whatever ranger equivalent don't have much interest in the Scotland team and that's what keeps the tartan army extremely sociable and friendly and fairly trouble free, we were so complimented and admired in Germany two years ago honestly but I'll find out soon if Boston and Miami is the same. Maybe it's because we're mostly there for the party and can't really be too ambitious haha

Goditsmemargaret · 12/06/2026 10:40

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/06/2026 10:25

It was ages ago, but I’ve never watched anything with Lorraine Kelly* ever since she said on (IIRC) Loose Women that she’d be supporting Germany in a big England vs. Germany match.
*ghastly woman anyway, IMO of course….

And this surprised you??

🤣🤣🤣🤣

The delusion is adorable.

Goditsmemargaret · 12/06/2026 10:39

TheCurious0range · 12/06/2026 10:20

I think that's different though, OPs heritage team didn't qualify so they've just arbitrarily picked one, most people as a second choice would pick the country they've made their home, or would not actively support any team and just enjoy the tournament generally. I suspect there's also something in the way this choice was communicated

I would totally pick the country I was living in... Unless of course that country is England! I'd never be allowed home again.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:31

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 10:29

Anti social IMO.

There’s nothing nicer 🎶

JudgeJ · 12/06/2026 10:30

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:21

Oh and the way you've worded it "I'd NEVER support English sport teams EVER" it does come across as a bit, I don't know, pointed?

Being anti-England in everything is considered acceotable, try and apply that to a country further East and see what the response would be. I won't be watching any England matches or even looking at the score until well after the final whistle, that's how much I would like to see them win again!

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 10:29

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:27

I’m sure they were fine 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Anti social IMO.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:27

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 10:22

Maybe it was her afternoon nap as it was 6am in the US.

I’m sure they were fine 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:26

Strangerthanfictions · 12/06/2026 10:07

Yes you are absolutely right, the Rangers fans particularly are known to be violent and unsocial and have caused trouble when travelling, you can spot them with their union jacks and many support England too. Celtic have been welcomed and praised the world over although of course there are factions that cause trouble but it's much less prevalent with them, and probably more specific to the old firm. I say this as a fan of neither and someone who hates the secterian divide in Glasgow. It's a good point you make though the strange difference between club football and the national team, it is very different. I am now wondering myself if it's because the hardcore rangers and celtic don't support the national team in favour of England and Ireland. Who knows

We’re season ticket holders. CFC. Support Scotland AND Ireland 🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/06/2026 10:25

It was ages ago, but I’ve never watched anything with Lorraine Kelly* ever since she said on (IIRC) Loose Women that she’d be supporting Germany in a big England vs. Germany match.
*ghastly woman anyway, IMO of course….

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 10:22

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:19

They were the late Queen’s alarm 😆

Maybe it was her afternoon nap as it was 6am in the US.

TheCurious0range · 12/06/2026 10:20

Cooshawn · 11/06/2026 10:19

Oh behave. It's perfectly natural to respond to people speaking to you about England that you don't support England.

I don't support England. I've always followed my heritage team because of my parent supporting them. I don't feel like I have to pretend otherwise. If people are so fucking fragile that they're offended by someone not supporting the same football team as them then they need help.

I think that's different though, OPs heritage team didn't qualify so they've just arbitrarily picked one, most people as a second choice would pick the country they've made their home, or would not actively support any team and just enjoy the tournament generally. I suspect there's also something in the way this choice was communicated

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:19

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 09:46

They were playing pipes at 6am. Not sure that is appreciated by neighbours.

They were the late Queen’s alarm 😆

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:18

Goditsmemargaret · 12/06/2026 09:45

We're not allowed cheer for England at football or any other sporting event. That's the whole point. It's written clearly in the 1916 Proclamation of The Irish Republic. It would be unpatriotic at best, possibly treason.

🤣

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 10:16

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:15

Good job they’re not then!

Indeed.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 10:15

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 08:09

Some England fans. I am sure some Scotland fans are also aggressive and drunk and violent. Manchester and others probably don't want the Old Firm down here very often.

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Good job they’re not then!

TunnocksOrDeath · 12/06/2026 10:11

It’s the assumption that anyone “should” care one way or the other that pisses me off.
My last employer lets people off work to watch England in the football World Cup, but got arsy about me doing flexi-time (still full hours) to actually compete at some high-level events in my own sport.

Walkyrie · 12/06/2026 10:10

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 10:09

People really are mad, aren’t they 🤣🤣

Yes no idea why. Asking for Scottish heritage people to be deported is madness!

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 10:09

Walkyrie · 12/06/2026 09:59

Don’t take it up with me, take it up with him.

People really are mad, aren’t they 🤣🤣

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