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To not support England?!

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Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

OP posts:
5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 21:09

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 17:07

I can root for them from here, the matches are in the US … also, the weather…

But why live in a country you feel such disdain for? It makes no sense.

MirrorMirror1247 · 12/06/2026 21:06

I'm Scottish and had a summer job in Lincolnshire during the 2006 World Cup, so I was living down there too. I proudly wore a Scotland Tshirt in amongst all the English flags. It didn't matter that Scotland hadn't qualified, hell would have frozen over before I supported England!

Didimum · 12/06/2026 20:57

I supported Spain last time. My husband was aghast.

Hellohelga · 12/06/2026 20:57

Support whoever you like, but you sound a bit obnoxious.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 20:56

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 20:47

That is a myth.

Oh were you there?

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 20:54

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 19:39

Possibly! I remember reading that some people from the Spanish armada got washed up on the Scottish coastline and intermingled with the locals.

Your boys sound lovely. 😊

Lol. That sounds funny! I can well imagine that. 😁

They both keep saying “ one thing we never have to worry about is going bald” 🤣

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 20:53

TheZanyScroller · 12/06/2026 20:43

An interesting post.

There are plenty of folk who flock to England and can't stand England. I find that weird tbh and a wind up. There are enough folk who flock here to use and abuse our country who have the audacity to get offended by our England flag. You move here and don't support England is one of many users in this country. You do you. Don't rub our noses in it.

Edited

Yes, it's rude to live in a country and announce to your colleagues that you support any country but the one you live in. You would only get away with that if you lived in a middle class bubble. Most ordinary English people would take a dim view.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 20:47

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 19:39

Possibly! I remember reading that some people from the Spanish armada got washed up on the Scottish coastline and intermingled with the locals.

Your boys sound lovely. 😊

Lol. That sounds funny! I can well imagine that. 😁

That is a myth.

TheZanyScroller · 12/06/2026 20:43

An interesting post.

There are plenty of folk who flock to England and can't stand England. I find that weird tbh and a wind up. There are enough folk who flock here to use and abuse our country who have the audacity to get offended by our England flag. You move here and don't support England is one of many users in this country. You do you. Don't rub our noses in it.

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 20:39

You live in England but support any team but England and you have told your colleagues this. Unsurprisingly they are irritated. Nowhere else in the world would this be OK.

If you feel such disdain for England, why do you live here?

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 20:36

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 19:11

The England fans will have to beHave when they lose. USA police are armed, and carry pepper spray and tasers…

🥱

Lovelycrazycatgirl · 12/06/2026 20:07

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

You are entitled to support who you like! Perhaps you should tell your work colleagues what they should wear or where they should go on holiday and see how they like it 😀

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 19:39

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 13:23

Mine are hazel. I just have Irish/Scottish looks but I think we may have some Spanish in us (black Irish?) as my eldest son has black, curly hair. Could also be Italian mind. 😊

My boys are the polar opposites of each other, one dark curly hair, brown eyes and the other straight blonde hair and blue eyes but they weirdly still look like each other.

One thing they both have inherited is really thick hair. You should see my husband if he goes two weeks without a haircut. He's like a member of the hair bear bunch. 😂

Possibly! I remember reading that some people from the Spanish armada got washed up on the Scottish coastline and intermingled with the locals.

Your boys sound lovely. 😊

Lol. That sounds funny! I can well imagine that. 😁

Runnermumof2 · 12/06/2026 19:23

Gladystheimpaler · 11/06/2026 10:18

I was born in England but to Scottish parents, you know who I'm supporting 🤣 As my Uncle always said (Scottish but living in London) "There's no Scot as Scottish as one who left"

Perfectly put 😃

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 19:11

The England fans will have to beHave when they lose. USA police are armed, and carry pepper spray and tasers…

OP posts:
JHound · 12/06/2026 19:04

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

Your colleagues are weird. I lived in Oz and didn’t support Australia in the ashes or any sporting tournaments (well if they were playing against England). I had one colleague who found it weird but so what.

And not a single Irish person I know living in England supports England!

Single50something · 12/06/2026 19:02

Support who you like. Can't believe how many people have said you should support where you live. English and yet we support another country we have links with. I dont feel it makes me any less English.. and not sure with the way England is at the moment that I am proud to be so :(

Hollybollyhughes · 12/06/2026 18:15

I'm English but live in Wales, racist generally and insular people, sadly. I never understand how people support English clubs, their players etc. yet are so hostile to the English team. You don't have to support any team but don't be so antagonist against England. They're in the World Cup after all.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 13:23

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 13:08

It is! I once had a woman from Malta ask me if I was Spanish, and when I explained I was part Italian she said she thought I looked Mediterranean, which I took as a compliment. (One of my favourite bands ever is from Italy.)

DS has inherited my dad's curly hair as well, although his is brown. He was born with black curly hair and I was really excited he was going to have hair like my dad's, but then that fell out and grew back brown. Oh well, he's still gorgeous. 🥰 His eyes are the same colour as mine, although they were black when he was born and then turned grey before going hazel.

Mine are hazel. I just have Irish/Scottish looks but I think we may have some Spanish in us (black Irish?) as my eldest son has black, curly hair. Could also be Italian mind. 😊

My boys are the polar opposites of each other, one dark curly hair, brown eyes and the other straight blonde hair and blue eyes but they weirdly still look like each other.

One thing they both have inherited is really thick hair. You should see my husband if he goes two weeks without a haircut. He's like a member of the hair bear bunch. 😂

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 13:08

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 12:52

Great though 😁

It is! I once had a woman from Malta ask me if I was Spanish, and when I explained I was part Italian she said she thought I looked Mediterranean, which I took as a compliment. (One of my favourite bands ever is from Italy.)

DS has inherited my dad's curly hair as well, although his is brown. He was born with black curly hair and I was really excited he was going to have hair like my dad's, but then that fell out and grew back brown. Oh well, he's still gorgeous. 🥰 His eyes are the same colour as mine, although they were black when he was born and then turned grey before going hazel.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 12:54

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 12:21

The tartan army are getting a lot of coverage in US press and all of it positive…

I haven't heard anything negative of the English either.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 12:52

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 12:40

Thank you! My dad's mum was Italian, and his dad was Welsh. My mum's dad's family originated in Scotland and just moved further south over the years (his parents were from Sunderland and he was born in Oxford.) My mum's mum's side of the family are from Oxfordshire, and there's apparently a Spanish gypsy woman in that side of the family somewhere as well. I'm a very mixed bag. 😅

Great though 😁

Historian0111101000 · 12/06/2026 12:43

I always support my own country. If they don't make it to the World Cup, I support England.

Mostly because I'm not passionate enough about football for it to matter that much to me. I also enjoy how the whole country comes together during major tournaments. Having drinks with my English friends and cheering together is something I really enjoy.

I also don't really see the point of choosing a random country that I have even less of a connection to than England.

But if that sense of shared excitement isn't important to you, then just support whoever you want.

SapphireSeptember · 12/06/2026 12:40

Differentforgirls · 11/06/2026 13:41

You're one lucky person with that heritage!

Thank you! My dad's mum was Italian, and his dad was Welsh. My mum's dad's family originated in Scotland and just moved further south over the years (his parents were from Sunderland and he was born in Oxford.) My mum's mum's side of the family are from Oxfordshire, and there's apparently a Spanish gypsy woman in that side of the family somewhere as well. I'm a very mixed bag. 😅

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 12/06/2026 12:31

Yanbu I work with a lot of people from all different countries. They are supporting their own countries.

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