Is England’s World Cup entitlement unique, or common in other countries?

These people always (conveniently) overlook the arrogance of other international teams. Argentina and Brazil being right up there.

I think English sporting entitlement it is something that a lot of people want to believe in rather than there actually being any because it fits their world view.

Yes, England fans and the press have high expectations. That is due to recent success, being close to winning major tournaments but not quite getting over the line, and also the success of the Premier League and how well the squad have done for their clubs. And our country gets very excited and passionate about football. And there is the inevitable post-mortem when things go wrong.

But I don't think passion and high expectations, and ultimate disappointment is the same as entitlement.

That kind of talk is usually from the same people who talk as if we were the only ones to ever have an empire, participate in slavery and feel that we have some inherited cross to bear from history.

Did you not see videos from other countries celebrating when they won games in the early stages? They made England’s look very low scale, and those countries didn’t even get as far as we did.

Messi plays in Miami now, I think he left Barcelona a while ago

They saw him as Spanish as he has never played for a team in Argentina having been moved at Spain at 12 by Barcelona

He plays IN Spain. He doesn't play for them.

Why is Messi hated in Argentina ? Because he plays for Spain ?

I mean look at the fans in the Azteca when Mexico played England.

Do you really think England "have a unique sense of entitlement?"

There were fans outside the England hotel trying to keep them awake at night and tire them out for the game (allegedly).

No team or fan turns up wanting to lose and they hope that they will win, no matter how slender the chance.

Amazing one has to explain this 😂

Omg ! Yes the drums and processions in streets I was in London when a middle Eastern team won a game and that was manic also .

This.

Watching other supporters it is common for teams to think they will win, not just England. You don't go along assuming you win lose.

That’ll be it!

Andres Escobar was a defender, not a goalkeeper. He wasn't shot dead because of the result, or the fact that the O.G. cost his nation the game, he was killed because a gambling ring had staked huge sums of money against that specific event happening.

I see your distress at a beckham mannequin and raise you the Colombian goalkeeper being shot dead for scoring an own goal.

England are mild in comparison to other countries.

I know it really fucks me off too, people are too bone idle to read the lyrics, the words are very self depricating...

This with bells 🔔 on. Can’t believe so many people do not understand what the song is about 🙄,so make up a completely false narrative and run with it.

Yes this is exactly what the song was referring to.

No one needs an excuse or a justification to sing or listen to a song, you silly sausage 😂

We don’t have a world cup entitlement here. So I cannot answer the question.

It’s a song that couldn’t be less about entitlement. It basically says they always lose and probably will again. The “coming home” was about the fact Euro 96 was being held in England, not about the trophy being brought back to England as winners.

My dad is French and he went absolutely ballistic when they won the 98 cup, it’s etched in my memory. To be fair, they didn’t have to wait as long as England to win it again. Understandably gutting to drop out the other night in the shocking way they did, they played abysmally.

Anyway, yes other countries take it seriously.

The sense of entitlement of Switzerland is nauseating. They felt they had a manifest destiny to win a sporting event based on their historical sense of superiority.

They invented the cockoo clock and holey cheese and they believe they are god’s gift to football. They have an inherent sense of superiority and their sense of Swiss exceptionalism make them think they have a manifest destiny to conquer the World Cup. Their flag is even an inverted St George Cross. I am so sick of this false sense of nationalism based on some artefacts of history. They are a third rate nation on the decline and they have not accepted this fact. They have some politicians that pander to their inherent racism and patriotism by looking back to a false nostalgic past of Heidi and Peter the goatherder days which appeals to their anti-EU sentiment but at the end of the day they are a tiny nation that is diminished in world affairs and has very little stake in the history of the world moving forward apart from as part of a bigger entity.

The Swiss have not realised it and their politicians do not have the heart or courage to move rheir people beyond their sense of delusion. They feel that 11 grown men kicking a pig’s bladder around will make up for their decline but at the end of the day, the industrial decline, weak leadership, poor productivity, antagonistic labour relations, a defeated workforce and lack of direction has put paid to any international ambitions The Swiss of the Toblerone and Rolex watch days are a figment of the distant past and they people have not accepted this nor have their leaders.

Ha ha, it's not just us. I was in France the year they won the world cup (2018) and have been there during many european and world cup rounds. It is wall to wall coverage on TV with every single thing poured over by endless panel of experts. France games cause whole cities to come to a halt as everyone gathers outside bars and restaurants to watch the game.

The year France got to the final the town we were in did not stop all night - there were youths driving around all night, all piled in to open car bonnets cheering and sounding their horns.