To find lazy adults really grating?

You're not her friend

Why are you two friends when you have such contempt for each other?

Sleep pattern isn’t anything to do with laziness it is to do with your natural body clock. Trying to live by a different routine is actually quite bad for you. Your friend opting for a shift starting at eleven is quite practical.
Doing nothing physical with her down time may be not ideal but may also be tiredness, depression (presenting as tiredness and inertia), underlying chronic illness. Or just that she is different from you.

You’re just lying about her and changing the narrative to suit your argument- you don’t sound very nice.

She does not ‘lie in bed all day’ she has an active job FFS. What do you do OP? Because if you sit at a desk I don’t doubt you are less tied. Do not underestimate being on your feet all day looking after young children- why so dismissive of her work. Some friend you are.

She’s probably exhausted. I don’t think I’d be able to go from looking after young children all day to thinking ‘yay now I’ll go out for a 5 mile run’.

You are not a better person because you get up at 5.30. You sound smug, sanctimonious and lacking in any empathy.

@myothersockis why does she want you as a 'friend'?
Are you desperate for her time? If not just leave her alone.

Deal with the ridicule
And stop being judgemental

Totally her choice and it wouldn’t bother me at all. She’s working and choosing to spend her free time however she wants - as are you. The fact that her choices are different to yours don’t make them wrong.

Goodness I’m glad you’re not my friend 😂. And I say that as someone who is up and out by 6am every day, who also runs and hikes. Not all my friends are the same as me, nor would I expect them to be. I choose my friends on their kindness and ability to make me laugh. If you don’t want to be friends with her don’t, but I would take a look at your own attitude to people who don’t conform to your standard of an ‘adult’ if you want to keep your other friends.

Plus, it’s worth remembering that people mature at different ages. I can’t imagine she will be doing what she does now when she’s 40 or 50, however for now she’s doing what she wants to do. It doesn’t affect your activities or anyone else’s.

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Maybe she has intellectual interests? She could be sitting in bed listening to podcasts on history or politics or anything at all that interests her. She might be reading, or following up on current events or natural
history or psychology. Maybe she meditates or just spends some time daydreaming. Maybe she writes in her journal, draws or knits? Maybe she is a film buff and loves to watch particular genres or directors? A person can have a very active interior life without having to perform activities that others approve of.

You do know that sleeping patterns are determined by biology right? It's not just adolescents who have a preference for late nights and later starts?
It's all a bit puritanical and judgemental to think those who are owls are lazy. I see used to work in a creative industry. The office was deserted until 10 am, but people often worked until 9 pm. It's the hardest I've ever worked 50-60 HR weeks were not uncommon. But I'm a natural owl. So you know you'd probably consider my lie ins 'lazy'. But I wrote a whole doctorate largely between the hours of 7pm and 12 (after I'd put the kids to bed).

If that gets your goat then you need a new friend.

Would you be happier if she was sat in a chair doing the same thing?

Seems reasonable to assume she stays home and avoids making plans with friends like the OP because they’re nasty and 2 faced!

As many have said, you’re not friends. You appear to hate this person. And honestly, if I were her, I’d hate you too. Maybe you need a bit more sleep? You sound like a very crabbit person. Surprised you have time to even post here, given your busy life which is much busier than your tik tok acquaintance. Maybe seek validation elsewhere. It’s a shame that you feel you needed to start a Mumsnet thread to justify your hatred towards someone who lives differently to you. Perhaps this is rage bait? Either way, it’s ridiculous.

Yeah, you do sound like a bitch.

What are you basing that on? She has a job and no expensive hobbies, so she's probably saving more money than the OP!

Yeah that’s annoying. I hate receiving links to watch crappy TikToks.

People have different energy levels and choose to spend their lives in different ways. At least she’s not going to suffer from burn out like so many other people in our society. I personally can’t stand this culture of keeping yourself busy at all times and working yourself to the ground

You call her a friend OP, but if she only sleeps, works and scrolls till the early hours , when do you two actually see each other ?

I think you can do both. I certainly did!

She’s not lazy, she just doesn’t have your superiority complex, which is why she probably makes digs at you. She is probably sick to the back teeth of your judgement, I also expect you’re vocal about all the other people you wrongly deem lazy too. You sound insufferable. She goes to work, and runs around after young children, that is the opposite of lazy. I expect she’s shattered. Especially as early years care is on its knees and there are nowhere near enough staff to child ratio. “Fair play that’s hard work, but still”. Absolute ignorance. There’s still time to have this post withdrawn, it’ll do you a huge favour as this clearly hasn’t landed how you believed it would.

It’s 30 hours so about 0.8. I’d say that’s close to full time. It’s not like she’s out stabbing people or defrauding pensioners. Also you say no MH issues but how do you know? I had serious depression for years and many of my friends had no clue. One feature was messed up sleep and spending lots of time in bed.

Sit in bed doing what? Reading Proust, the online weekly shop, paying bills, doing mind games that require an IQ of 150?

I doubt she's sat there staring at the wall.

In their own time why would anyeone care? If we agree to meet at 10am and they say at 9.45 sorry i am too lazy to get out of bed sure not impressed